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Bellababy
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From:Warren, MI, USA
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posted 01-10-2004 07:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bellababy     Edit/Delete Message
I just lost my Bella baby 2 days ago to Parvo....this whole experience with Bella was horrible. I also have another 2 other dogs, Sierra and Keeda. I have been bleaching my house like crazy but I have an acre lot and I know the virus is stil in my yard. I brought Keeda and Sierra in to the vet today and they do not have parvo...thank god...i have no idea where my bella got it from. By Keeda and Sierra coming in and out of my house, are they contaminating my house? Please help!

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dougiesmom
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posted 01-10-2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dougiesmom     Edit/Delete Message
I'm so sorry! How old was your baby? Thank goodness the other 2 don't have it. I'm new to this board but there are plenty of people who will have lots of advice and support for you. take care

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Jamiya
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posted 01-10-2004 08:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
How old are your other two dogs? Are they fully vaccinated?

An adult dog should be safe from getting parvo, if it has been vaccinated or previously exposed to the disease without coming down with it (or having it and recovering).

BUT if you are thinking of getting a new puppy, I would wait at least a couple of months and bleach EVERYTHING including the yard. An older puppy that has had all of its shots would also be safer.

If you do a search on parvo in this forum, you will find more info. A search on the web also yields a lot of info.

I'm so sorry for your loss.


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Bellababy
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posted 01-11-2004 07:53 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bellababy     Edit/Delete Message
My Bella was almost 4 months old...I got her when she was 7 weeks old. The breeder told me she had her first set of shots and to take her to the vet within the next 2 weeks for her 2nd set. So I made an appointment a week and a half after i got her. I brought her in and told them she had a little cough, ( I wasn't really worried about it, I just wanted to let them know. ) well they wouldn't give her her 2nd set of shots. So they told me to come back in another 2 weeks for a check up and for the shots. So I did and I had to bring in a stool sample. well she had diarrea, so they gave me more meds for her and told me to come back in another 2 weeks for her shots. I was kinda worrried not giving her her shots but I never took her anywhere so it wasnt' a big deal. Well, right before her appointment that was when I noticed she was having diarrea and was vomiting. I called a little bit before my appointment and told them and they said she probably ate somthing. (and she did get into the garbage a couple of days before) So finally when I took her in for our appointment thats when they told me she had Parvo. I heard about it but I never realized how contagious and deadly it was! We tried to save her but it was too late. :-( I have been a reck I don't know what to do with my self!!! My other 2 dogs are 3 and 4. and are updated on their shots...I'm just worried that by them going out side and coming in are they infecting my clean house? It has also been between 7 and 25 degrees here in Michigan for the past week and a half, do you think the cold killed the virus out in my yard? Sorry about the long story....thank you for replying to my message u guys! Thanks.

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Jamiya
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posted 01-11-2004 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
I don't think the cold will kill parvo. It is a very hardy disease.

Yes, if your dogs step on ground harboring the parvo virus and then come inside, they can bring the virus back into the house. Parvo can live for years in the dirt.

All the recommendations I have seen say to bleach not only your house, but your yard as well - anywhere the pup went. Your vet should be able to give you more specific recommendations, or look at some parvo sites on the web.

Your other dogs should be well-protected from the disease.

It sounds like your vet is partially at fault for your puppy's death, along with unfortunate circumstances that prevented her from getting her shots. I know it is not good (and potentially dangerous) to give immunizations to a sick dog, since their immune systems are compromised. But I would think a few days would have been sufficient to wait and recheck the pup then, instead of waiting two more weeks.


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Bellababy
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posted 01-11-2004 08:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bellababy     Edit/Delete Message
Will bleach kill grass?

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Jamiya
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posted 01-11-2004 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
It might kill the grass. Although from what I read, a 1:30 dilution was recommended so maybe that won't hurt the grass. You could test it in a small area and see.

I got this from a web site about parvo:

"If you had a dog die of parvo we recommend thorough cleaning with diluted bleach (1:30 with water, or 4 ounces of Clorox in a gallon of water) and waiting 1-2 months before introducing a new dog to the area. Spray the yard as best as possible with a hose and keep new dogs away from the area for 1-2 months. Never put bleach on your dog."

Another says:

"If you have had parvo in your home, use a strong bleach/water solution to
kill it. Soak the yard with it -- better to kill the grass than your next dog!
Be careful using it on carpets and fabrics, though. Parvo can live up to 6
months or so in your home or yard. Before you bring home another dog, be sure it
has a strong immunity to parvo. You can have a veterinarian draw blood and run a
titre to find out how well your prospective dog will fare in a parvo-infected
environment. Adult dogs generally have a higher resistance than puppies do, but
they need to be kept current on their vaccines. If in doubt, have your vet do
the titre."

Check out this thread as well. The last entry says that person sprayed bleach in the yard. I don't know what dilution he/she used.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001655.html

I hope this helps!


Jamiya

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dougiesmom
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posted 01-11-2004 11:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dougiesmom     Edit/Delete Message
Did you notify the breeder you purchased her from? If so did any of the other pups have parvo? Yes, it does sound like your vet is at fault here. It is so hard to find a vet you can trust. We are very fortunate to have a wonderful vet!!! Once again i am so sorry

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Bellababy
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posted 01-11-2004 12:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Bellababy     Edit/Delete Message
Yes I did call the Breeder....he had no problems with any other puppies and said I was the first to get Parvo in his 30 years of breeding...sounds a little fishy but oh well....I had her for a while so most likley she did pick it up somewhere other than the breeder. Well, I'm off to get more bleach! Thank you so much for the info!!! It was very helpful.

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Jamiya
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posted 01-11-2004 06:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
This is what I found as far as resistance to temperature goes:

"Even after the host has appeared cured from this virus, the virus may linger around the enviromenet to infect another host. The virus is extremely hardy and survives for long periods outside its host. The virus will live in the environment up to 6 months and survives winter nicely under a blanket of snow where the temperature is usually around 25-28 degrees F. Extremely cold temperatures prior to snow fall will kill the virus. Sodium hypochlorite (bleach) is the only effective disinfecting agent. "


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LisasLittleZooCrew
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posted 01-12-2004 02:07 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for LisasLittleZooCrew     Edit/Delete Message
Hi everyone, I just got a Beagle puppy for xmas and named him murray he is the love of my life and my lil' miracle as well, it was a lil' over a week after I got him that I realized something was very wrong with him when my lil' boy started to vomit and had the poo pooz realy bad and was acting real depressed so I emediately took my lil' angel to see the vet and thats when I found out that my poor lil' fella had parvo, of course I was frantic after haveing read the seriousness of parvo and puppies. The doc emediately hooked my lil' guy up to IV treatments and he stayed in the hospital for 5 days and it costed ALOT! but I just had to do what ever I could to save my boy. The doc told me that he had a 50/50 chance and that it all depended on how strong his immune systom was and how far the virus had spread. I prayed hard for my boy and made him get well cards everyday, He is home now and doing alot better, he is eating and drinking on his own and a lil' playful too even though hes still a lil' weak. The doc told me if he pulls through that he wont get it again, but im confused that if he wont get it again why do i need to disinfect everything so thoroughly? Ive bleached my home but now im scared to death to take my lil, baby outside so I let him potty on papers in doors. Im not sure where he got the parvo from and ive got so much yard space that i dont know where to start. If I take my puppy outside im scared he will get sick again will he? Beagles love to dig and sniff and i feel scared he will become sick again even though hes getting through the parvo and feeling better. I love him so much and I feel like im smothering him too much, i know he needs excersize but im scared to take him anyplace thats not bleached. For anyone whos puppy has gotten sick with parvo my heart goes out to you. Thank you so much! Luv Lisa&Murray

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-12-2004 04:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Oh god I'm sorry for your loss...I've got experiance with parvo and its a horrible disease. Parvo can't be killed by grass, it has been found in temperatures under 0 degrees.
Bleach will kill your grass if you do not delute it. You can put it in a pump up sprayer and spray your yard, and then use your waterhose and dose your lawn real good. That should delute it enough not to kill your grass. It will however turn brown on the ends and look ugly for a while, but will come back.

Even though both of your dogs are up to date on their vaccinations, its still very likely they can get it. I hate to scare you but its true.

One of my last puppies in our litter had all 3 rounds of her shots and still caught it. Luckily she was saved, but its possible. Once a dog gets it, and is treated, they can't get it again. Thats one good thing. Their bodies become imune to it after the infection.

Good luck. I'll keep you and your dogs in my thoughts and prayers...

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Jamiya
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posted 01-12-2004 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
While it is possible for dogs that have been vaccinated to get parvo, I think dogs older than 2 are less at risk. From what I have read, all dogs are eventually exposed to it either through the environment or through their shots.

One thing I read said a dog could get it more than once, but most things say they cannot. Common sense would say they cannot.

I think the real tragedy is that from what I have read, we created the parvo virus by contaminating dog distemper vaccines grown in cell culture medium based on cat cells that harbored feline distemper. (Or something like that - the book is at home.) The contamination was not caught, and vaccinating our pets with this distemper vaccine created parvo.

Now don't rush out to refuse the distemper vaccine - this was in the 1970's.

Supposedly, it is thought that several "modern" diseases were created in a similar way, even HIV. Scary.


Jamiya

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