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zestymike48
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From:Corpus Christi, TX
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posted 03-15-2003 03:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zestymike48     Edit/Delete Message
LOL, sorry for so many posts in one night! BUT I am new to the site and got to reading past posts and realized that I knew so many things that might be helpful to ALL of you.

If you have a dog that is supposed to have a very full coat but it is thin (especially like a shih-tzu, maltese, or other heavily coated breed) then read this!!

In the first place the tiny toy runts and "tea cups" NEVER, EVER have the same full coat of the AKC standard size of the breed. Accept that fact if you own one!

Also, I own just such a tiny teacup shih-tzu. She will of course never have the same coat that is standard for the breed but once she just about went bald! LOL hahahaha I thought that perhaps she had mange or something and rushed her to the vet.

I was embarrased to learn that it was because she had just gone out of season.

YES!!!!!!!!!!! Hormones play a major part in fur production (or loss of hair). It can cause excess shedding as well.

The vet gave mine some hormone therapy and now she is beautiful....ALMOST looks like a show dog!!

Michael in Texas

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Pauline
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posted 03-15-2003 02:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pauline     Edit/Delete Message
I had a patient who had a regular size one, what gorgeous and great little dogs those are! Hers weighed about 8 pounds!
What does your little one weigh? Those dogs are such cuddly lovemongers, like a Chihuahua. I am enjoying and prefer to see patients who have animals! LOL!! You learn a lot. And these patients have the greatest attitudes I think comes a lot from owning these wonderful pets. Hard to have preferences! God bless.

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zestymike48
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posted 03-15-2003 04:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for zestymike48     Edit/Delete Message
Pauline, I have a tiny female shih-tzu black and white who never got over 6lbs even when pregnant. She is my "child" now that my sons are grown. I would love to share a picture if you like jmbeasley@stx.rr.com. Michael

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goob
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posted 03-15-2003 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
An easier, cheaper way for the "pet owner" to fix that kind of problem is to just have the dog spayed. That will take care of the coat problem, and you won't have to have it done over and over. That's one of the reasons people who do conformation shows don't want altered dogs showing side by side with intact dogs... because the altered dogs (almost) always have better coats.

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zestymike48
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posted 03-17-2003 01:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for zestymike48     Edit/Delete Message
Goob!! Such an interesting thought. Of course this one meshes with what I had already told about my vet saying: HORMONES are normally to blame for the poor coat and it is rarely poor diet at all. I still maintain that those super tiny runts just never develop the coats of their standard sized mates. A dog that has been spayed or neutered of course doesn't have those "seasons" that cause dramatic hair loss. As for not showing them side by side honestly I thought that in most shows neutered dogs were banned! True or false?

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goob
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posted 03-17-2003 02:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
Poor diet CAN have a lot to do with a dog's coat problem, as can allergies and some skin/coat disorders. Part of the reason the "super small" dogs may have poor coats is because of the lack of quality breeding behind them, and possibly genetic disorders like alopecia. Spaying/neutering will help with any hormonal loss of coat, and will keep females from "blowing" their coat with their heat cycle. Only female dogs come into season though, males are always ready to breed, not cycling like females.

And it's true that in conformation shows, only intact dogs are allowed to participate, because it's supposed to be a way of picking the best "breeding stock", and obviously and altered dog can't breed. However, some dog owners have been creating a bit of a scene lately over letting altered dogs show as well, because that way people who want to show in conformation can do so without their dog being intact and risking accidental litters. I believe some breed clubs are beginning to have "altered classes" for dogs that are not whole, but some owners still want their altered dogs to be competing against the intact dogs. Then some people who show intact dogs in conformation don't want the altered dogs showing, because of things like altered males not being distracted by females, altered dogs having better coats, altered dogs placing above intact dogs will mess up the "selection process" for breeding dogs, etc. Both groups make valid points on the issue.

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sistergoldenhair
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posted 03-28-2003 05:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sistergoldenhair     Edit/Delete Message
Hi I am new to this site also! Pretty interesting stuff hey?! I wanted to say that I have been told that if you mix in a raw egg w/ your baby's food like once a week or so that is suppose to improve the looks of the coat. Could be an old wives tale but I have been doing that w/ my rottie & she has a beautiful coat. I have a baby beagle/boston terrier mix also, I haven't done that w/ her yet but there isn't really a need to either. Also, I have a question, may sound dumb but can someone tell me what a "teacup dog" is? I assume it has something to do w/ little dogs (I have been a big dog owner my whole life - until now that is, with my little Token!) Thanks!

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Malteseof2003
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posted 03-28-2003 07:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Malteseof2003     Edit/Delete Message
"Tea Cup" dogs are little dogs needless to say. Usually, breedesr try to find a small, female, and small, male...And breed them to get a tiny pet! In my opinion...Tea cups are not always the healthiest ones. Not to say that alot are! But if you have A bigger size dog. (bigger in toy) And breed it with a little, that pups can come out not too healthy. But like I said that is not ALWAYS so!

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Poofy
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posted 04-03-2003 03:34 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I disagree. A well bred dog, no matter the size, if there is coat factoring will have coat. I have Japanese chin, and some of my smallest have the most profuse coats...
Also spaying and neutering will help the coat grow and keep it from shedding as much.

In toys you simple get those tinies every so often...you are dealing with pituitary dwarfism...you are going to get those extremes...

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Anuraagii
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posted 01-14-2004 09:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Anuraagii     Edit/Delete Message
If you have purchased a dog from Wizard of Claws you may be interested in this:

Media Release

Mi Kim
Feldman & Getz, LLP

155 NW 167th Street
(305) 770-0003
mikim12345@yahoo.com


MARCY I. LAHART, ESQ
Marcy I. LaHart, PA.
711 Talladega Street
West Palm Beach, FL 33405
(561) 655-9537
milahart@bellsouth.net

December 12, 2003

FOR IMMEDIATE RELEASE

PUPPY STORE SUED FOR MISLEADING CUSTOMERS, SELLING SICK PUPPIES

(Pembroke Pines, FL) Two South Florida attorneys have filed a lawsuit on behalf of customers that bought puppies from Wizard of Claws Inc., alleging that the Pembroke Pines pet store defrauds customers by intentionally misrepresenting the origin of the puppies sold, and by selling puppies that suffer from a wide array of health problems, including contagious diseases and genetic disorders.

Although Wizard of Claws has told customers that their puppies were imported from "reputable" breeders in South America, according to the complaint filed yesterday Broward County Circuit Court, in reality the puppies were obtained from large scale commercial breeding facilities in Missouri, commonly known as a "puppy mills", where animal welfare concerns are wholly secondary to profits.

Plaintiff Shannah Diaz of Miami purchased a Maltese puppy, “Prince,” from Wizard of Claws on September 6, 2002 for $950.00. Prince suffered from a congenital bleeding disorder, and died from internal hemorrhaging when he was less than a year old. After Prince died, Diaz began to suspect that Prince had come from a puppy mill, and asked a Wizard of Claws. "They assured me that my puppy had come from a reputable private breeder " Diaz .said, "but I later discovered that my puppy had been shipped to Florida from a commercial breeder in Missouri. " Wizard of Claws refused to reimburse any of Diaz's vet bills.

According to the Humane Society of the United States, the documented problems of puppy mills include overbreeding, inbreeding, minimal veterinary care, poor quality of food and shelter, lack of socialization with humans, overcrowded cages, and the killing of unwanted animals. To the unsuspecting consumer, this often means buying a puppy facing an array of immediate veterinary problems or harboring genetically borne diseases that may not be detected until much later.

Wizard of Claws, which claims to specialize in "tiny, tea-cup size puppies" sells puppies from its Pembroke Pines store and over the Internet. Plaintiff Mary Ibarra of San Antonio, Texas ordered an English Bulldog from Wizard of Claws, and knew that something was very wrong with her new puppy moments after "Gracie" arrived from at the San Antonio International Airport. Gracie, who had received a clean bill of health from Wizard of Claws veterinarian of choice Dr. Jan Bellows, walked on her wrists and she kept falling down on her back legs. Gracie was soon diagnosed as suffering from severe hip dysplasia with early onset arthritis. Gracie’s hip sockets are so bad that they do not have a cup to hold the ball of the joint, and she needs at least two surgeries. If the surgeries are not successful Gracie will have to be euthanized. Wizard of Claws refuses to assist with the costs of the surgeries, or to even reimburse the $1200.00 Ibarra paid for the pup.


The lawsuit, which alleges fraud, breach of warranty and multiple counts of violating the Florida Deceptive and Unfair Trade Practices Act, asks that the plaintiffs be reimbursed for the purchase price of their puppies as well as the veterinary expenses incurred as a result of the purchase an unhealthy pup.


NOTE: Some of the victims of Wizard of Claws and other animal lovers will be demonstrating outside the store at 9101Taft Street, Pembroke Pines tommorow, Saturday, December 13th starting at 11:00 am. Attorneys Mi Kim and Marcy LaHart will be present to answer any questions concerning the case.

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 01-15-2004 05:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! I have a Shi tzu, but he's not tiny. He weighs about 14 lbs, not fat at all just healthy. He's very much a one person dog, he's glued to me 24/7 when I'm home. Very good natured and loving. He has a beautiful coat, but he's purebred.

Susan

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