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benny boy
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posted 03-04-2004 08:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
is this a good line or not? i've heard nothing but bad things about it. from the dogs having bad joints to bad temperments. i was wondering if any of you guys here know how this breed came to be. and if the stuff that i have heard is true. i've done some surfing on the net but i can't find anything but breeders who use the line when i try searching for good info. thanks.....one more question. is gottiline the same as razors edge? this is a link to gottiline kennels. im not saying anything bad about the breeder bc i don't really care i'm just trying to figure this crap out.
http://www.gottilinekennels.com/GOTTIPAGE.html

and these are what i believe to be some examples of razors edge
http://www.strictlypits.com/

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benny boy
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posted 03-04-2004 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
in my opinion the dogs look poorly conformed. the ones i have seen are extremely short with oversized heads, and overweight most of the time.

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True_Pits
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posted 03-04-2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah they aren't great dog at all, they aren't even good dogs IMO. Well some of the Razor's Edge dogs are nice looking, and have good conformation, but some are horrible and leaning towards the fad look of late. Being a "good line" depends on what you want the dog for, and your definition of good. Because some people are convinced that these dogs are the BEST and greatest dogs to walk the earth. Gottyline isn't razor's edge. Razor's Edge is its own line. Gotty came from Graylines, so he's a gray line dog and now you have gottylines. He has to be one of the worse looking dogs I've ever seen Notorious Juan Gotti!! Notoriously ugly with poor health and conformation. I'm sure Gotylines has a website show casing their ugly dogs somewhere. I know Graylines has a site because I've seen it before. Here is Razor's Edge, they do have some nice looking dogs. http://www.razorsedgekennel.com/LOGOFRONTPAGE.htm As far as temperament I don't know. I admit I think some of the dogs are beautiful.

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True_Pits
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posted 03-04-2004 05:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
Hey I found the link to Graylines site. http://www.geocities.com/greylinekennel/index.html


http://www.geocities.com/greylinekennel/hunter.html
The 2nd link is to a dog called Hunter he isn't that terrible looking (at least not yet, I'm not sure if he's mature or still young and growing).

If you want to see good high quality dogs check out HIGH OUTPUT KENNELS http://www.highoutputkennels.com/

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cricket
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posted 03-04-2004 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
In my opinion, Razors edge dogs that where actually bred by Razors Edge Kennels are good looking dogs, a lot of there dogs are AmStaffs, thats why some tend to be bigger. As far as temperments, they are bred for people aggression. Even though they are big, they are well proportioned. I think that they are one of the most extreme kennels as far as price, and personally, I wouldnt pay that much for any blood line, i do feel they are a puppy mill, so I really wouldnt buy any of their dogs

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True_Pits
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posted 03-04-2004 09:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
Hey cricket is this really true?!
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As far as temperments, they are bred for people aggression.

I had no idea! I did see a picture of one of their dog looking vicious at the camera and saying something about protection! But I can't believe they breed for people aggression! What are they nuts!

as far as them having Staff blood I think thats why I like them (some of them), most of the bigger bred APBTs don't look to good, but the ones with Staff blood tend to look great. Those really being bred to the standard from duel reg. breeding usually look and nice and well proportioned.

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GinaH
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posted 03-05-2004 05:34 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GinaH     Edit/Delete Message
My brother has a dog that is razor's edge/Chocolate city that is about 6 years old and it is the sweetest most wellbehaved dog I have ever seen. I would like your proof please that Razor's edge is bred for people aggression? Im not sure how you can come on a forum for Pit bull lovers and then bash on certain bloodlines without any proof what so ever to back up what you are saying. I took a look at the websites Benny posted and I saw some very good looking dogs.

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cricket
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posted 03-05-2004 09:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
First of all, I never bashed the bloodline, and maybe your brothers dog is 1/2 Razors edge, and maybe he is loveable, but he isnt 100% Razors Edge. I know a few 100% razors edge dogs, when they see people they go nuts. And great looking doesnt always mean good dogs. You talk about me having proof, but you are basing your whole out look on the line on one dog.That is'nt even full Razors Edge. Razors Edge is a popular line where I live, and almost all these ByB's have them in their little fake breeding programs. A lot of people use them in personal protection and as just back yard guard dogs. And honestly, a lot of the blue lines out there are bred for human aggression. They belive their dogs are to beatiful to scrap, so they specifically breed dog agression out of them, so they can keep a group of dogs all together. Sort of how some junk yards have a group of dobermans or Rotts all hanging out together trying to kill every body that comes with in a hundred yards of the shop. And as true pits stated, I think Razors Edge Kennels even states that, human aggression is something they strive to achieve. Personally, I dont think that it's a good trait to breed into pit's but who am I to say. Let me go get you some proof.

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AC from TO
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posted 03-05-2004 09:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for AC from TO     Edit/Delete Message
Where is Razors Edge?? Reason I'm asking is because according to all of the byb kids here in toronto, a razors edge dog is the dog to have. They are actually shipping them up. I havn't managed to get my hands on any proof yet, but that's what they're saying

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cricket
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posted 03-05-2004 11:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, it is the line to have for the people who like this style of APBT because they are considered to be the first kennel to actually breed for the blocky head, big boned pits, and short muscular build. And for Gina H, just go to Razors edge site, and read.

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GinaH
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posted 03-05-2004 12:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GinaH     Edit/Delete Message
Ummmmm thank's I did and your point?

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True_Pits
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posted 03-05-2004 02:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
The point they are puppy peddlers and BYBs.
With people aggressive dogs. They are breeding for personal protection, I just wasn't sure before. Well thats nice to know more aggressive Pit Bulls.


I did go to the pages too. So I have looked, Gottylines has to be one of the worse, much worse they Razor's Edge. That dog in no way looks good. And good looking doesn't mean the dog is good or quality, if it actually did look good.

There are plenty poorly conformed Razor's Edge dogs. There are also some that looks very good as stating before. But since they are now more or less puppy peddlers after a few good dogs, all that goes down the drain and the line with continue to deteriorate.

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benny boy
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posted 03-05-2004 05:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
but yeah i mean these are the highest priced pups that i can find. these people charge around 3 g's for a single pup. and i'm like why? i dont see the justification in spending that much money on a single pup, but thats probably just me.

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benny boy
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posted 03-05-2004 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
i hope that nobody takes this in the wrong way but to me they look like boston terriers on steriods.

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ngkon
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posted 03-05-2004 07:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ngkon     Edit/Delete Message
If you like the way they look get an English Bulldog....

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True_Pits
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posted 03-05-2004 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I guess the reason why is ppl are stupid enough to pay it! I would never in my life pay that much for a pup!!

What about these dogs, some really bad ones too.
http://www.woodspits.com

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cricket
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posted 03-07-2004 11:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
You think those are high priced, go to www.mobsterpits.com

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