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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
So often on this board people ask about food, what to feed, what others feed, whats best, whats not. I thought it would be helpful if all the information is located in one thread. I am going to cut and paste posts from other threads to this one, all that pertain to food and nutrition. Please feel free to do the same. Lets try not to repeat posts. Remember,this is meant to be an informative based thread only, everyone should do their own research.
It's difficult to give "facts" pertaining to foods, feeding, and recommendations because a lot of what is out there is anecdotal info, as well what works for one might not work for another. Anyone can put anything on a website, that too should not be taken as fact. Its great to recommend reading/sites/and offer input but the opinions of others are not necessarily going to be right for everyone nor should they take the place of vet care.
Lets keep it an informative thread and keep discussions in other threads. Also remember, no advertising, it is a site rule and should be respected. Post links for informational purposes only.

*** SOURCES and REFERENCES should be cited when copying and pasting information written by others. Please do so.

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 12:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This is the link for Innova/California Naturals web site. (Natura Co.)These are also excellent foods, but I like to use their "Ingredient Wizard". Grab your bag of dog food and go through the list, looking up each one. They have ingredients listed with explanations that they don't even use in their foods. They also have a feature where you can compare different brands ingredient lists, once you learn what you are looking for in a dog food this will be really helpful. http://www.naturapet.com/display.php?d=home-tab

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
The Whole Dog Journal is where I started my education, it was eye opening to say the leaste. My Flyball Captain gave me a copy to read once. I now have a subscription and look forward to it each month. It covers many issues and topics having to do with dogs, but their Top Dog Foods List is something every dog food manufacturer wants to be on, they explain very well what to look for in a good food. http://www.whole-dog-journal.com/index.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Here is a site with several BARF/Raw links that you might find helpful: http://www.livejournal.com/userinfo.bml?user=rawdogs


Here is another website for the barf diet, and how to get started. http://www.njboxers.com/faqs.htm
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000237.html
I recommend viewing this website http://www.diamondpaws.com/health/barf.htm they've done a great job at compiling a lot of links and info.

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 04:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This thread was filled with a good discussion on feeding senior and overweight dogs.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001212.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Cheese...to treat or not to treat.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001195.html
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001012.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 04:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
These threads contain lots of discussion about ingredients in different brands of foods and lots of opinions. http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001080.html
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001291.html

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posted 10-18-2003 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
A couple interesting ideas for slowing your dog down when eating.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001089.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 05:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This thread contains discussion on how often to feed your dog and feeding vegetables to your dogs.

***Tip: The term "Free Feed" means to leave food available to your dog att all times.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001051.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 05:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Discussion on when to stop feeding puppy food and rotation of brands(changing your dogs food for variety).
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001047.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 05:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Picky eaters.... http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001020.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 05:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
A thread about bad breath and eating too much.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001016.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 05:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This thread has some good debate and discussion about foods....of course you will have to sift through the pictures of my dogs and some discussion about what my puppy may be crossed with. Sorry, lol. http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/001004.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
De-worming using pumpkin or carrots...links to more information included.
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000995.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Lawn burn...discussion on feeding tomato juice to prevent it and a warning
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000969.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Thread topic: Raw food http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000800.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
A thread with links for food choices: http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000780.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Thread concerning garlic, onions and potatoes: http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000769.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-18-2003 06:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Yogurt! http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000729.html

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posted 10-18-2003 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Here are some links containing the AAFCO pet food ingredient definitions: http://www.mihog.org/diet/foodingred.phtml

This link is similar to the one above but also states the purpose of each ingredient (ex.- protein, fat, carbohydrate, fiber, flavor enhancer,ect.): http://www.bulldogbytes.com/recipes/foodguide.htm

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posted 10-18-2003 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
This site is loaded with all kinds of info. about dog diets..it includes links regarding the BARF diet, homecooked diets, commercial diets, special diets for disease, supplements, treats and more: http://www.simplyschnauzer.net/sshnnutrition.html

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posted 10-18-2003 09:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Information from a canine nutritional consultant and breeder of great danes regarding "large breed" puppy nutrition, common pet food myths and other useful info. pertaining to dog diets: http://www.greatdanelady.com/

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posted 10-18-2003 09:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Selecting a Commercial Pet Food from the Animal Protection Institute: http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=689

This link includes info. on commercial and raw diets and also contains the WDJ's top dry and canned foods lists for 2002: http://home.comcast.net/~mstraus/dogfeeding.html

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posted 10-18-2003 09:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Dog Food Reveiws - this link includes the ingredients lists, guaranteed analysis and calories per cup of a large vareity of commercial dog foods: http://www.greatgoldens.com/dogcomp.htm

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Maisey
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posted 10-19-2003 12:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This one is for fun...how to stuff your dogs KONG and recipes! http://www.kongcompany.com/how2use.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-19-2003 01:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
An article on brands of dog food that were tested and found to contain phenobarbitol, the same things vets use to euthanize animals. http://www.wkyc.com/news/national/020513dogfood.asp

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Maisey
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posted 10-19-2003 01:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
A site that offers alot of nutritional information, tips, news and recipes, including the use of herbs and a holistic approach. http://www.doglinks.co.nz/health/healthcare.htm

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Maisey
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posted 10-20-2003 12:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
This article on commercial dog foods was very interesting and surprising. It is on the Animal Protection Institutes site.

"Whats Really In Pet Food" http://www.api4animals.org/doc.asp?ID=79

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posted 10-20-2003 04:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
egroups for discussion of canine nutrition, feeding and food comparison: http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Commercial_Dog_Food_Comparison
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/Dog_Nutrition
http://groups.yahoo.com/group/commonsensedogfeeding/

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posted 10-20-2003 04:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Dog Food Comparison Charts: http://www.doberdogs.com/menu.html

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posted 10-20-2003 06:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
This is a site a little about Solid Gold foods and treats.
http://solidgoldhealth.com/about/

Here are the ingredients in the Solid Gold Hund-n-Flocken lamb and rice formula

Lamb meal, ground millet, ground brown rice, ground barley, Menhaden Fish Meal, Canola Oil, flaxseed oil, rice bran, garlic, amaranth, blueberries, yucca schidgera extract, taurine, carotene, choline chloride, calcium carbonate, vitamin E supplement, Irond protenate, Vitamin A supplement, Zinc proteinate, Niacin supplement, folic acid, Thiamine, pyrodoxine Hydrochloride, maganese proteinate, menadione sodium bisulfite complex, copper proteinate, ethylendiamine dihydriodide

Solid Gold contains
NO WHEAT
NO SOYBEANS
NO CORN
NO ANIMAL FAT ADDED
NO POULTRY FAT
NO BY - PRODUCTS
NO SUGAR ADDED
NO PRESERVATIVES
NO SALT ADDED

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posted 10-20-2003 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
Just some other info I posted a while back
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000851.html

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posted 10-20-2003 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
Here's a post I made awhile ago with tons of doggie treat recipes on it
http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum2/HTML/000852.html

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Maisey
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posted 10-22-2003 11:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Another resource for finding information:
http://www.eskie.net/dog/food/

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posted 10-23-2003 10:37 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
here is another good website
http://www.perfectfeeds.com/nutrition_requirements_in_dogs.htm

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Maisey
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posted 10-26-2003 10:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I found this article on preparing fresh fruits and vegetables for your dogs and thought I would share. There were a couple things I had questions on in it, like under "salad vegetables" it says that onions are hard for dogs to digest but doesn't say they are toxic to dogs. (It is my understanding they are)I was also told by my vet not to feed grapes or raisins to my dogs. I have heard and read lots of differing opinions when it comes to dog and cat foods, be careful and do your own homework, not everything on the internet is fact.
There are also links to recipes for dogs on this page. http://www.geocities.com/blueaspenoriginals/petfood/Vege_and_fruit_guide.html

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posted 10-26-2003 12:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Boy did i come across a great "raw" food source page !!
You should check this place out, it has ALOTTA good stuff, especially for all those feeding raw or are planning to. And, for all those hard-working dogs out there... Hope this helps ya
www.sleddogcentral.com/dogfood.htm

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Maisey
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posted 10-28-2003 09:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I believe this after trying to ask my vet about Foods and nutrition for my dogs. An interesting bit on commercial foods.
http://www.groomcrafters.com/id19.htm

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posted 11-05-2003 11:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Herbs for animals, a holistic approach. I liked the descriptions of what each herb can be used for.
http://www.wholisticanimal.com/Herbs.html

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posted 11-08-2003 01:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I've been exploring and researching feeding a raw diet to my dogs and cats. I personally have come to the conclusion that feeding a biologically appropriate diet to my animals is important to their health and longevity. However I have had reservations about some of the debated issues that go along with feeding them a raw diet. Feeding whole raw bones has been one of them, I am nervous about the possibility of impaction, perforation or choking. I have chosen to feed a purchased raw food that is already mixed up to be balanced and the bones are finely ground and I am happy with it. I found this web site and some articles there that I thought I would pass on to anyone who is interested no matter what side of the debate you are on, it's good to be open to learning about both views. I found that this site has offered some research to back up their point of view, not only that but they sort of took a middle road instead of being black or white on the issue. It answered some of my questions, maybe some of yours will be answered too.
http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/bones.html

This was the page I found very interesting. http://www.thepetcenter.com/xra/bonecomp.html

I am interested in any aspect of this topic, if you have a link or article that would dispute this one or add to it please feel free to post it in this thread.

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posted 11-12-2003 01:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Recipes for KONG!

The ones on the KONG site...
http://www.kongcompany.com/features.html


some others I found.....
http://wgnradio.com/shows/pet/recipes.htm
http://pub7.ezboard.com/fboxerrepublicfrm14.showMessage?topicID=7.topic
http://www.lauriebryce.com/tplo/kong_recipes.html

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posted 11-18-2003 09:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
This site contains guidelines for choosing a quality dog food: http://home.comcast.net/~Mordanna/dog

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Maisey
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posted 01-11-2004 10:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
About feeding a raw diet.
http://www.living-foods.com/articles/rawpetfood.html

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posted 01-31-2004 11:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Here is an interesting article on Nutrition, especially for those wondering about feeding Large Breed puppy foods.
http://www.thepetcenter.com/imtop/nutritioncomments.html

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posted 01-31-2004 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Your dog overweight? not sure? not a doubt in your mind? Check this out....
http://www.zubrinus.com/default.aspx?pageid=178

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I originally read the information in the first link found at the Chicken Soup For The Dog Lovers Soul web site, http://www.chickensoupforthepetloverssoul.com/Petsinpetfood.html
it was in answer to a question about euthanized pets being found in dog foods...it sent you to the FDA website for proof substantiating the information they were providing. Once there I found alot of interesting reading. I'm not sure I believe that euthanized animals have not been used in dog food, it makes more sense for them to deny it (in my mind) than it does for them to substantiate it, but the information is there for all to decide for themselves. There is information on recalls and the mad cow scare and other issues as well. http://www.fda.gov/cvm/index/animalfeed/petfoods.htm

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Bump for a new post...

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does anyone here have any experience with solid gold foods?? the reason im asking is that i got a sample of their wolfcub food for nico and she seemed to really like it. She's currently on Innova puppy and likes that as well, but have been concerned that Innova may be too rich in ingredients. The kitchen sink approach if you will. i have the solid gold catalog sitting here, and i get a weird vibe from it. It just seems that they REALLY push their additional supplements. They tell you that you must add their Sea Meal to all their foods, and if you do that you should also add the yucca supplement, and also the vitamin c. Just seems kind of shady i guess. They also recommend feeding the dog fruits, which i agree with, but one of the fruits they suggest is grapes. which ive heard can be very bad for a dog. So, anyones oppinion of the solid gold line. The vet where i took nico thursday (new vet) to get spayed displays Canidae foods, but i didnt have a chance to chat with them about it. I may have to, just to get their opinion. So many foods, and they all say they're the best. choices..choices...

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