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Maisey
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posted 06-24-2003 01:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
I used to give my horse garlic to aid in repelling insects, and I know many horse owners who do as well. I read something somewhere that made me stop. I couldn't remember what it was so, with the question below I decided to look around a bit. The first link below is an explanation by a vet about the effects of onions and garlic on horses. Onions are definately toxic, garlic being in the same family and containing the same content is also a threat. The article explains in detail why and what happens.
The second link is for an article about feeding garlic to dogs....
The bottom line I got from what I have been reading is that garlic does contain a toxic ingredient, BUT there is much controversy about the dosages, and if in fact small doses over time can cause damage. Now I remember why I quit feeding it to my horse...I figured I would use other means to control insects until the controversy was cleared up. I don't like taking chances with my 1200 pound baby. The vet bills can be very expensive! For me this was a lesson in the WHY you should research for yourself...too many times I catch myself saying, "they wouldn't sell it with a label saying that if..." it's not true. We all need to make our own decisions and make sure they are educated ones. All to often I forget to do that. Thanks for making me think about it again.
http://www.equisearch.com/care/nutrition/eqgarlic528/
http://www.petalia.com.au/Templates/StoryTemplate_Process.cfm?specie=Dogs&story_no=257

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Jas

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posted 06-25-2003 11:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
I caution anyone using garlic to be careful and use in moderation. The first horse article bases her opinion on onions. And I would definitely not call 1-4 pounds of onion a day "moderation" - even for a horse. As she states there hasn't been a study on garlic and I believe onion and garlic, while in the same family, have different effects. For me the ~many~ benefits of small amounts of garlic in moderation outweigh the risk. I never recommend feeding onions because of the anemia as well they are difficult for dogs to digest.

For those who are worried about using fresh garlic, might want to look into Kyolic Aged Garlic. I have natural care dog books that recommend using Kyolic Aged Garlic since it is easier on the system than fresh garlic. It is also said that it does not contain allicin the chemical in garlic and onions that is associated in hemolytic anemia.

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Maisey
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posted 06-25-2003 01:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
My girlfriend does use that type of garlic for her horse. Ya know we both asked our vets about using it, my vet said "yes, it's great" her vet said "no, there hadn't been any studies". She feels comfortable with using it and she does. I quit because it bothered me that the vets had disagreed, it was just a personal choice. I will say this though....everyday we put flyspray and flymasks on the horses. Her horse has just as many bugs bothering him as the rest of ours do, and she ends up putting the spray on anyhow.

Jas, you said you had a bunch of natural dog care books...do you know about potatos? I was told they are toxic for dogs as well by the county extension service. Then I started noticing them in dog foods, perhaps cooked is ok and raw isn't?

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nern

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posted 06-25-2003 08:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Not Jas but... I beleive it is only the "green" or unripe parts of the potato and the "eyes" that are toxic.

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Jas

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posted 06-25-2003 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
I agree Maisey, garlic -- personal choice. might work for some dogs, and not for others.

I know that dogs with arthritis, should avoid tomato, potato & other nightshade veggies. I have read that potatoes with sprouted eyes & green spots should be avoided because they can be toxic - I am assuming in both raw & cooked form. Instead many people feed sweet potato/yams. I guess companies have made potato formula kibbles for dogs with grain allergies/sensitivities. Hopefully without using the green eyed taters!!!

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