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tslever
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From:Tennessee
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posted 02-25-2004 11:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tslever     Edit/Delete Message
my peekapoo(Cocoa) is in heat and I am wanting to breed her but I am new at this. How do I go about doing this? Is there a certain day?

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Jas

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posted 02-26-2004 12:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
I would say do not breed. At least until you are able to answer this and any other breeding questions yourself. I advise investing in some books and becoming an informed and Responsible Breeder first. Find a long time respected breeder mentor who will guide you. A good breeder is a *well informed* breeder. So you should know when the appropriate time for mating is before you let this happen because there are many health concerns and risks involved with breeding - and you must be knowledgeable to be able to deal with problems should they arise.

How old is your female?
What health testing and certifications has she had?
Do you know the health & temperament of her lines?
Are you prepared to be there for the life of all the pups?
Do you have the money for all the incurred costs of the litter?
What health testing has the stud had? Has he been tested for Canine Brucellosis - a transmitted disease which can infect your female and make her abort puppies and cause infertility. http://www.wildsidekennels.com/articles/brucellosis.html

Read over these links to help you decide if your dog is breeding quality: http://hometown.aol.com/gelet1447/Breeding.htm

What makes a responsible breeder: http://www.dachsie.org/breeding.html

Simply breeding checklist: http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Flats/7244/checklist.html
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/responbr.html

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PooGirl13
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posted 02-26-2004 09:06 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PooGirl13     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Jas... unless you know exactly what you are doing please wait You'll be thankful that you did.

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MistressKela
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posted 02-26-2004 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MistressKela     Edit/Delete Message
And on top of that its a peekapoo....you'll do no one any good by breeding a mix. Youd be doing it to make money. If you want another dog contact the breeder you originally got the dog from. If you still absolutely insist on breeding...give the dog to her and let her handle it if she feels it is appropriate. Breeding is not something to be taken lightly. You dont just throw two dogs together and have puppies pop out neatly and nicely.

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MyBabyShihPoo
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posted 02-26-2004 11:47 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyBabyShihPoo     Edit/Delete Message
I second Jas' advice!!!

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tslever
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posted 02-26-2004 02:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tslever     Edit/Delete Message
I want to thank Jas for the information that they gave me and I will be looking at those sites plus asking my vet. for more info. She is 2 yrs. old and in good health. We do have the money for her and the pups for when we do take them to the vet.plus I will be here with her cause I am a stay at home housewife. But, I don't like the remark that that one lady said about me doing it for the money. That is not the reason I am doing this. I would just like her to be a mom and my cousin wants to use her dog to mate Cocoa with. Her dog is a Shitzu( I think I spelled that right) Anyways, just wanted to thank all of ya'll for ya'lls information and thanks for responding.

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tslever
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posted 02-26-2004 02:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tslever     Edit/Delete Message
I want to thank Jas for the information that they gave me and I will be looking at those sites plus asking my vet. for more info. She is 2 yrs. old and in good health. We do have the money for her and the pups for when we do take them to the vet.plus I will be here with her cause I am a stay at home housewife. But, I don't like the remark that that one lady said about me doing it for the money. That is not the reason I am doing this. I would just like her to be a mom and my cousin wants to use her dog to mate Cocoa with. Her dog is a Shitzu( I think I spelled that right) Anyways, just wanted to thank all of ya'll for ya'lls information and thanks for responding.

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tslever
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posted 02-26-2004 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tslever     Edit/Delete Message
I want to thank Jas for the information that they gave me and I will be looking at those sites plus asking my vet. for more info. She is 2 yrs. old and in good health. We do have the money for her and the pups for when we do take them to the vet.plus I will be here with her cause I am a stay at home housewife. But, I don't like the remark that that one lady said about me doing it for the money. That is not the reason I am doing this. I would just like her to be a mom and my cousin wants to use her dog to mate Cocoa with. Her dog is a Shitzu( I think I spelled that right) Anyways, just wanted to thank all of ya'll for ya'lls information and thanks for responding.

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ilovemaltipoos
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From:Grant ,Alabama..USA
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posted 03-04-2004 11:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemaltipoos     Edit/Delete Message
Breeding is more than just because one wants to breed a male or female .Breeding is a true love of what you do .To say all breeders breed for money is true .But that applys to all breeders no matter whom it is or what they breed .Most that sell to pet stores sell for very little money and breed their dogs to death to supply and make money .Pet Stores do not make money unless they can buy cheap .Those are bad breeders .More than apt you would get puppies that have never seen a vet ,shots from a feed store and the worst food on the market ,health issues and more .
If you are to breed her ,look at all pros and cons including health issues of both the Shih Tzu and the peekapoo.Be prepared for the worst and pray for the best .To breed just to have a litter is not the right way to go about it .Not to say you are wrong ,just think and research all before you do and be aware that even though she may be in exellent health ,she could have problems giving birth ,be prepared . I would not breed those two types together ,but you are a different person and have to choose .Good luck in your decision and let us know what you choose to do .

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Samsintentions
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posted 03-05-2004 05:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Ok. You need to do some HEAVY research:

First until you do these things, don't even consider it:

Have her vet checked for ALL the tests, ie, hip displaycia, Ear Eye, ect....

IS she prooven, confermation, temperment, intellegance, ect. Have her evaluated by a vet and a CERTIFIED and RESPECTABLE BREEDER!

Will she be bettering the breed, or just breedign for the fun of it?

Read all your breeding books....

Your going to need 24 7 assistance with her, at least a thousand dollars put aside in case of EMS. and a whole lot of patience.

Now, theres about a million other things you need and need to know, get some books, advise, and research all of them.
I don't condone breeding X's but some do. I really don't see the need to breed her. She'll be even more happy and healthy spayed.

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ilovemaltipoos
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posted 03-05-2004 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemaltipoos     Edit/Delete Message
Sam ,You are very right that she does all research and has a vet to give the dog a really good full physicaland to be fully prpared in every way to deal with uncertain aspects of all ,but why in the world would she need a breeder to look at the dog ? Reputable or not ,most breeders are breeders and not vets .Advice from one yes ,examining a dog and proclaimming it fit to breed no .Most would go by their own predudice and not by health isuues which is why a vet needs to examine both the male and female and help with that decision .That and reseaching the ins and outs of breeding and health isuues in both the breed and the cross she intends to breed together .Talk to breeders ,yes .Taking it to a breeder for them to examine is a totally different subject .

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charmedagain
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posted 03-05-2004 05:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi as a breeder of german shepherds i would like to stress that its very expensive to have all the tests done hips,eyes heart, and so on.
She will also need a viginal swabs done to check there for any problems.
The male will also need thoroughly checking by a VET not the Breeder he/she is NOT qualified to say wether either dog is in perfect condition.

If you do have her mated then there is the risk of something going wrong resulting in the death of the mother and her litter this has been known to happen.

Also could you cope with your female giving birth and losing the litter once they are born or a couple of days later?

Can you deal with culling any of the puppies that have cleft palate/ hair lip, limbs missing or any other problem that will result in either a shortened life span or serious health issue's through out the dogs life.

Also could you cope with losing you female during the birth or either shortly after or a couple of days after.

These are just a couple of problems that can arise from breeding you female.

I dont condone cross breeding but its not my place to judge people.
But please think long and hard before you do this.

There is one book i think you should read you can either buy it off amazon.com or you can borrow it from a libary its called.
The Book Of The Bitch.
It goes through everything about the female from being a puppy to an elderly dog it also goes through everything that can go wrong during the mating of the dogs and during and after pregnancy.

Also is your female upto date on her shots is she upto date on her worming.

Sorry to go on but i come across so many people going into breeding with there eyes closed i am not saying that you are one of these people so please dont take offence.

Mike

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Samsintentions
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posted 03-08-2004 01:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
What I meant was, ask the breeder she got her from if she would reccommend it. A good breeder would know the standards, and wether the dog should be bred or not. And YES the vet needs to handle ALL the Checks!!!! I just thgought a breeder could give her pointers on whether she should or shouldn't, and what to expect. Sorry for the confusion.

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Jas

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posted 03-08-2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with Sam, along with important vet checks and health certifications (which is more than a vet check), I believe what Sam meant was have dogs evaluated for such things as their structure and temperament by an experienced breeder - and NO not all vets can thoroughly evaluate to this degree. Remember only the *best* (including healthiest) examples of the breed should be bred.

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goofie_newfie686
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posted 03-14-2004 09:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goofie_newfie686     Edit/Delete Message
i would say definitly not to breed. A) if you cant answer that question then your in troble
B) you dog isnt a purebred, im not meainng to point fingers but this is how we end up with soooo many animals put into shelters. People who arent in the breeding business to better there breed are in it for the "cute little puppies" or the cash flow.
But i guess the ultimate descsion is yours, another thing if your dog is a cross then your should know both breeds standards inside and out frontwards and backwards and have familys ready for your pups. Breeding just isnt having pupies in your house , you will have to part with them, mabye all 3 mabye all 8 or 9, how many pups abour will she have, can you afford all the vet bills and test leading up to and during the pregnancy and what about the stud fee???
The descion is ultimitly yours, this is only my take, but htere has got to be someone out there who agrees with me
anyone???
CLAIRE

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puttin510
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posted 03-16-2004 01:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
Right, if your female is not perfect in all respects of her breed(breeds) she should not be bred. Breeding is for making the breed the best possible, not worsening. Like say if you dog has a parent dog that has arthritis, heart murmur, liver shunts, legs that don't stand correct, luxating patellas. The list goes on and on. Dogs with these problems will only have pups with these problems and cost the new owers alot of grief and alot of money. Just enjoy your girl. My poodle is from the shelter. She has alot of problems and it hurts me too knowing she has to live with it just because someone decided to breed her parents that should never have been bred. Think long and hard about this.

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