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3Dogsihave
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posted 09-01-2003 06:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3Dogsihave     Edit/Delete Message
Hi I am new to this board and was wondering if anyone here owns pomeranians. I have two and just love them. Just was wondering if anyone else had them and if they have any grooming advice. Belles hair matts really bad and I had to cut it out. She hates to be brushed you would think someone is killing her. anyway just wondering if anyone had some usefull advice. Thanks in advance!

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puttin510
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posted 09-02-2003 10:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
I have a poodle and a terrier mix. Grooming is something I do often with my poo. I think that you maybe need to make sure that the brush is not too stiff a poking or scratching her. I am certain that they are double coated dogs so you could also use besides a slicker brush a stripping brush that helps to get out the dead undercoat. If your brushes are not hurting her she needs to be brushed daily and she will realize it is a good thing.With daily brushing there is less chance for the hair to get into a tangled mess. With my terrier the first brush I bought he would try to run from me, I decided to buy a better quality one and now he loves every minute of it. Good luck. Maybe Someone will come along that does have a pom.

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3Dogsihave
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posted 09-02-2003 02:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for 3Dogsihave     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the advice, I hadent realized it might be the brush. I am a little clueless with them. I will look around and see what else i can find. They do have the double coats and everything i have seen just tells me how hard it is to maintain them. lol thats not alot of help, but thanks for all the advice.

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iluvmypup
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posted 09-02-2003 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for iluvmypup     Edit/Delete Message
have you tried a spray on leave in conditioner on her coat that could slow down the matting so you wouldn't have to brush her so often.and if that doesn't work try giving her something to play with while you brush her that way she don't concentrate so much on what your doing.yes it's hard to brush a dog that's playing but i did it with my pup because he didn't like to be brushed either and now he's used to it and he lets me brush him everyday

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Cindymae
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posted 09-02-2003 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cindymae     Edit/Delete Message
I just lost my gorgeous chocolate colored Pomeranian, but have had alot of experience with her hair. I ususally shaved her in summer to keep her cool and much easier to bath, and then let her coat grow out in the winter. I found it helpful when coat was growing in to bath her, use lots of conditioner, and then blow dry her hair while I was brushing it. I used just an ordinary dog brush, not the bristle kind, and not the slicker kind. She tolerated this better than just brushing alone, as she also acted like I was killing her ...
Fortuntately she LOVED the blowdryer, came running anytime it was on, so this worked out very well. When done like this, her coat was magnificent and sooooo soft...
Hope this helps

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Nolita
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posted 09-18-2003 06:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nolita     Edit/Delete Message
My cream color pom's named Teddy Bear and his coat almost touches the floor. He's never had a haircut except to cut out what I call doggie dredlocks which he tends to get behind his ears. There really is no need to shave even a pomeranian. Different groomers and the vet told me that shaving a dog's hair in summer is not only unnecessary but can cause issues with how the dog naturally responds to changes in the weather. A slicker brush is however necessary as is a metal comb. The best slicker brushes are from Germany and are curved. You need the slicker brush because Pomerenians are double coated, that is to say they have an undercoat(I believe for insulation...they are in the same group as the husky and malamute). Carefull combing starting at the ends and working your way up takes out any large tangles then just brush the hair in sections making sure to get in close to the skin and brush out the dead undercoat. She won't like it at first but you have to do it...teddy makes these funny little noises the same as when he gets petted and cuddled...he lays on his back for my to brush his chest. Be glad you don't have to brush a poodle since their curly hair dangles easily and is much thicker than a poms...also conditioning the hair helps too...they don't like too much concentration on one section so you do have to come back to some....and here's a trick for cutting out the dredlocks...hold the scissors vertically instead of horizontally and snip into the dred a few times...then saturate it with conditioner and go at it with the comb then the brush...that way you get minimal hair loss

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ilovemypets
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posted 09-20-2003 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ilovemypets     Edit/Delete Message
Welcome to the board!!!! I don't know much about Poms and their hair problems though. Do you use puppy conditioner? And how old are they? They might have their puppy coat.

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Nolita
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posted 09-25-2003 02:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nolita     Edit/Delete Message
My little teddy boy is seven years old(recent birthday). Really it's just using a good pet shampoo and conditioner...but in a pinch you can use Mane and Tail or Pantene...there are those who will tell you not to use human shampoos ever...they will tell you that it isn't the right ph for your pet that it's too harsh...I disagree to the extent that most of the best pet shampoos and conditioners are super concentrated and should be diluted prior to use...rarely will anyone at the pet supply tell you this because I think they assume you know what you're doing if you're buying the product...Mane and Tail is designed for animals and just happens to be marketed to humans...when you read on the bottle it gives instructions for using on livestock...Pantene is created for humans but I have a neighbor with a gorgeous miniature poodle who uses it on her hair and it leaves it soft and fluffy(exactly what you want in poodle, bichon, or pomeranian hair.) I think the real problem is that people over use shampoo and conditioner (dogs don't need weekly baths and their delicate skin can't handle it) and they don't rinse enough...on the off chance you don't have a hand shower for your kitchen sink get one...they cost between three and thirty dollars U.S. depending on the model and if it has all the bells and whistles...you really don't need all the bells and whistles though...you just need it to get the water to every part of your pet...rinse untill the water runs clear and then rinse some more...All the rinsing insures that you won't have soap(read the ingredients all shampoos and even most shampoos contain sodium lauryth sulfate or one of it's sisters...when you see lauryth sulfate it translates to detergent...Oh my dog smells terrific...you can get samples at fancy department stores like Nieman Marcus and Nordstroms...nicer for you than your pet...beyond all that it really depends on the color of your pet...lighter color dogs(mine's cream color) need a shampoo with a blue base to brighten the color...but that's most important for pure white color like bichons and white poodles or persian cats...or of course malteses.

I forgot to tell you in my last post about something that helps lots between shampoos....PetCo and most other pet supply stores carry detangling spray and leave in conditioner...an overall spray helps brush through the hair...you can saturate specific tangles that are larger or tougher than the others...once a week brushing is plenty but you can brush every day if it keeps you in the habit of brushing...I'm going to have to figure out how to post a picture so you can see how long my baby's hair is...when we go out even people who have malteses, pekingese, and shi tsus gasp when they see him because his hair is so long...he's a pet quality but people who aren't familiar with all the rules for pomerenian coats think he must be a show dog...technically his coat is subparr...that is to say poms aren't supposed to have long shiny coats...Teddy Bear really looks like a tiny alaskan eskimo or samoyed...because of the color and length of his coat...my neighbor has two eskimos and next to them teddy looks like the dog version of mini-mr. bigglesworth from the austin powers movies...yeah he has lots of hair as opposed to none but he looks like someone took one of his much larger cousins and shrank it down...he really could live on the Island of Dr. Moreau...one of moreau's early experiments before deciding to stick with human/animal hybrids...I've gone on long enough but I hope this helps...Poms are my favorite because of their super sweet personalities...that and they're the best bluffers...they'll growl and bark if someone they don't know touches you...they wouldn't stand a chance in a fight but they don't know it...they have lion hearts.

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Nolita
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posted 09-25-2003 02:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nolita     Edit/Delete Message
sorry the name of the fancy shampoo and conditioner is 'Oh My Dog'...I wasn't trying to tell you how great my dog smells...right now he's a little woofy smelling...Also I was trying to explain that all the rinsing insures you won't have any soap or conditioner residue which can cause the hair to matt and tangle more and also can irritate the skin and dry(unrinsed conditioner that's not a leave in can do this as well as underrinsed shampoo) the coat.

Sorry...and on my earlier post I meant Poodle hair tangles easier than Poms' ha...I made myself laugh when I read dangles easier....hope you too got a chuckle out of that particular typo

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puttin510
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posted 09-26-2003 09:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for puttin510     Edit/Delete Message
I must beg to differ. I have a poodle and granted different poodles have different coats some are softer some are more wirey, but with my girl her hair is no where near as thick a a pom. I think the longest I have had her hair is about 1 1/2 to 2 inches. With brushing even every other day her hair was still easy to brush. Maybe the onse with the very wirey hair are harder, but mine and my sisters have soft easy hair. I have never had to cut out matts on her. I swore up and down that I will never ever let that happen to her. If you have ever seen a dog fully matted before. That is what she had to deal with in her life before she came to live with me. She is my first poodle and will not be my last. My terrier mix has a doudle coat. It is more of a pain to brush him out than just brush sasha. Clipping is another issue. Yep, poodles do dangle better. LOL.

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Iluvmypom
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posted 10-03-2003 04:48 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I am new to this site, so I would like to take a few minutes to share some info on my baby Bear. And ask a few questions.(that is what we call him)

I got my baby from a friend last year in October. He was just 8 weeks old. Up until that point I had never had a pom or really been around one. But now that I have had my Bear for a year, I do believe I will stick with poms forever.

Bear is 13 pounds and he is a pure bred pom too! He is extremely smart. I myself who has never had any dog training experience was able to train Bear how to sit, stay, roll over, stand up on his hind legs and dance, bark on command, and many other cool stuff! It took him only one day to learn each trick.

Are anyone elses poms really smart (the breed) or is it a select few.

He follows me around EVERYWHERE I go! He LOVES attention, is very boisterous and loves to play tug with his toy cow. He rides awesome in the car and is very well behaved in public and in hotels.

Now a little about me as a pom owner. I SPOIL MY BABY! HeHeHe! I feed Bear all natural foods (I make myself with the help from the vet in order to ensure proper nutrition). He eats many fresh fruits, herbs and veggies daily (also reccommended by the vet).

I am his mommy and daddy is my hubby. My kids are now calling him thier little brother. I brush his fur every 3 days and bathe him with a soapless, fragrence free shampoo containing oatmeal 1 to 2 times a month. I blow dry his fur, clip his nails and file them down myself. I told you he is spoiled! LOL! (this shampoo is relatively inexpensive at a pet store)

Anyway Back to the issue of fur. If you often
gently brush your dogs fur and talk softly to him/her while doing so he will become more used to this activity and start to look forward to it as well. I have never ever had a tangle or knot in my dogs fur. Although he has had a few dingle berries on his bum. So his fur in that area has had to be trimmed. But other than that I do not add anything onto his fur that isn't necessary, or may cause an alergic reaction.

The whole idea is to brush, brush, brush. Not too often as this affects fur growth and thickness.

Also I am not sure a lot of people realize this, but if you shave your pom his hair will grow back a different color. It may not change drastically, but it will change. So if you like your babys coloring DO NOT shave him! A Pomeranian is one of the only breeds who's fur will change this way.

Thank you for your time, and thanks for reading!

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My Pomeranian is like my child!

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Michelle
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posted 12-30-2003 12:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Michelle     Edit/Delete Message
I own a pom as well. She is 5 months old and is cream in color. She is a delight. She is very smart also. But I can't seem to get her to mind me. Can you tell me how you trained you dog so fast and what methods did you use?

Also, Can you tell me what the name of that shampoo is you use to bath your pom? I would like to try that. I have not shaved my pom, but she is going through the ugly stages of shedding right now. I am having a hard time getting her to stay still so I can brush her. She bites the brush and me and tries to run away. Can you tell me waht I can do to make her stay still and to get her to love it? I am wondering if the brush is too rough for her skin.

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