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posted 08-14-2003 07:12 PM         

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I just wanted to see if anyone had any comments on the shelter in my area that is being sued for renting out animals to experimental groups? It's a state run shelter and the ASPCA has filed formal charges as well as seperate civil lawsuits by former employees. I can't believe that this was allowed to take place. Many of the former employees testifed that many of the dogs came back with there abdomin and chest shaved, the testimony from the on staff veterinarian said that they had never seen a group of animals all fall sick at the same time and not respond to any type of treatment, some of the animals were so week they could not even walk. How could someone that runs a shelter do this??? I'm so mad about this!!!!

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posted 08-15-2003 03:38 PM         

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Its greediness. I hope they all get whats coming to them. A person has got to be sick to take advantage of something that can not take care of itself. I hope all is taken care of and the former employees put them thru the coals.

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posted 08-16-2003 06:44 AM         

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I hope so too, I just was in shock when I read the article in the paper. And it's been going on for months. I looked on the website and the amount of evidence they have againts him is overwhelming. This guy is a monster, how could he sleep at night knowing he's supposed to be helping these animals.

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posted 08-20-2003 11:01 AM         

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Exactly, if he is this callused with pets, it would be insane living with him. I don't know how anyone can look into the eyes of an animal and hurt it. He probably thinks since he is not physically putting his hands on them that its not him doing it. I hope he rots in Jail or the other word.

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posted 09-22-2003 10:12 AM         

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Is there an article somewhere I can pull up to read about this ? Just wanting to know .

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posted 09-22-2003 04:27 PM         

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http://www.pawsnj.org/who.html

Cut and paste this website into your browser. (It's the organization that has been collecting information on the shelter for months. It gives you the email addresses to the freeholders in our area so please email them and let them know of your disappointment.) The last article that appeared in our local papers was about a month ago, but this site has excerpts of the articles as well as links to copies of the lawsuits that the animal shelter is facing. The whole thing is so sad and I can't believe this guy has not been at least suspended. I mean the evidence is overwhelming and he's not come forward to deny any of it. Plus I'm sure that the ASPCA wouldn't have filed a lawsuit unless they were sure they had enough evidence against him, and ASPCA isn't the only lawsuit he is facing. It's so sad. This has been going on for months. We were all talking about it at work the other day. I was suprised because it seemed to be common knowledge and I had just found out about it.

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posted 09-22-2003 06:50 PM         

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This is sick .The person that is responsible should get life or the death chamber but more than apt a fine and a small amount of time if any .Than is not humane ,not even human .I am MAD !!!!!!!So I will wait until I can calm down before I say anymore .!

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posted 09-23-2003 12:47 AM         

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Hope no one minds.. I forwarded the article to PeTA.. I can say I disagree with a lot of PeTA's standards, but I am right up there on the top of their favorite's list when it comes to trying to BAN and press serious charges on people using live animals for laboratory testing. I know a lot about this and the shaved abdomen usually indicates that these animals were injected with checmicals such as floor cleaners, nail polish removers, very harsh chemicals like those.. I take it they do not perform LD50 there? These animals are all in some serious pain and at this point the best thing is probably just to put them down. These chemicals that are being injected will cause tumors, ulcers, organ failure, seizures, internal bleeding, some can cause mental retardation as well as paralysis and in some cases even death. There are many more things that they cause but with injections to the stomach that is the most common. It is sad and these people need to be charged with maximum penalties. I know some of the workers may say they never knew and whatever else, but as a member of a shelter your duty is to protect these animals and assure they are being taken in the best of care, if there are any bad vibes or hesitations you either do not adopt to or you report the issue to AC immediately, so the ignorance cannot be ignored, they are just as much to blame. It is funny how people ignore things just to make a dollar. Sick!! Anyhow, I will keep you all updated on what I am told..

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posted 09-24-2003 06:29 PM         

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Unfortunately it looks like anyone that worked at the shelter that said anything got fired. They are also facing Civil Suits from employees that spoke up and were fired. The Vets that did the health checks on the dogs said they never saw a group of dog all fall sick at the same time, none responded to the medical treatment and some could not even stand up when they were returned. The Vetrinarian said all either died or had to be put down as a result of the "Seminar." This guy is still running the shelter and most of his staff happens to be family members now. It's only a matter of time before he gets his. The only experimenting that needs to be done is on his brain. How could he do such a thing? Last I heard they were requesting the financial books, which so far he has refused to give. They think it's because it shows large donations from the experimental group to the shelter, which will most likely seal his fate. The amount of money he is paying his family members to work there has also come into question. I think they were saying this shelter has brought in about 300k per year, but so far he has not given the books up and this is a public shelter. This whole thing has been going round and round for months now. I hope PETA can help. It seems they are just doing their own thing at this shelter and the locals are trying to get things fixed but have not had much luck.

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posted 09-25-2003 12:15 AM         

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It is true about the shaved areas being in just the right places for all the injections .I ask my vet and he says that is more than apt what happened if they were shaved .You don't need to shave for an ultra sound type test .The more I read, the sicker and madder I get about it .If I lived in the area I would be at his door everyday with animal cruelty signs .Knowing me though I would wind up in jail cause I would spit on them everytime I seen one of them and would more than apt try to be in all the places they were so I could spit on them .
Here in Alabama not but a few days ago ,someone tied a dog that was starved (and I mean STARVED to death )and had mange and other things to a pole outside a shelter and left it with no water and when the people arrived it was dead . I will more than apt get in trouble cause I am about to write to the Police a good long story about what I think they should do to them .I think they know who it was and have arrested them but I have been busy and missed the last news on it .Going to look it up tomorrow and see what has happened so far .When are people going to stop the torture of such beautiful and loving man made but God given animals ?I am not good at liking people in general anymore .In just about every conversation I have with anyone I ask ,are you an animal lover or not ? I know alot of both ,the nots I don't talk to the second time .I really don't have anything to say to them .My life are my dogs and cats and birds .I would have one of every kind except snakes ,rats and bugs ,if I could .My husband says no to goats ,says I will have them in the house .I use to have chickens ,We would come home and they would be sitting on my bed waiting for me ,looking out the window ,my husband finally gave them to a neighbor to raise eggs with cause I let them in the house and we constantly had to spray for mites,treated the chickens too but there got to be too many .I love animals .I hate with a passion anyone that mistreats one (except snakes ,rats and bugs )

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posted 09-27-2003 02:59 PM         

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I agree if I could spit on them all I'd do the same thing.

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posted 09-28-2003 12:29 AM         

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Well there.. I looked into Peta.. they are going to do their own little investigation.. Has anyone ever seen the things they do to these dogs and cats?? I can make an album of pictures so that you can all get a little idea of just how cruel it is.. it sounds bad, but it is not half as bad hearing it as it is seeing the pictures of it.. now imagine what the reality of it all is?? Beautiful girl.. can you in anyway get an address and/or name of the town mayor/town office for that area.. as well as the address to the shelter?? I will look online and then post the addy's to both so everyone can write letters about it and that will give the officials more confidance and a bigger boost to get on top of things knowing that so many people from so far away know about it... I will also advertise it in my local newspaper and see if they can write something to them as well.. this guy needs to rot in jail with tubes going in and out of him and chemicals beign injected by the hour.. poor animals.. I hope they are not suffering any more..

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posted 09-28-2003 09:35 AM         

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What Is Pound Seizure?
Pound seizure is the surrender of impounded animals from public and private shelters to biomedical research laboratories, training institutions, pharmaceutical houses, and other facilities that use animals for experimental teaching or testing purposes.
Source: Humane Society Of The United States

This is the technical term for what they are doing at the Camden County Animal Shelter. I don't think they have any pictures just the affidavits from The Vet Techs and the Vetrinarians who were all fired when they tried to speak up. The Address of the shelter is:

Camden County Animal Shelter
125 County House Road
Blackwood, NJ 08012

(Email and this is a joke)
ilovemypet111@aol.com

This is the information to the Camden County Freeholders, they have let this guy remain as director dispite the lawsuits from former employees and the ASPCA.

The address for all Freeholders is:
Camden County Courthouse
520 Market Street, Camden, NJ 08102
email: freeholders@camdencounty.com

I came across this on the NJPaws website and I copied it. there are so many stories like this one, shelter volunteers or employees being fired for helping the animals.

"HSSNJ Executive Director Glenn McCleery volunteers who have demonstrated a sincere caring for the welfare and humane treatment of animals have been fired or forced out. And any volunteers who have tried to create an actual organized group have simply not been tolerated by McCleery.

2003 - Jennifer Gillen, a shelter volunteer who started her own nonprofit animal welfare group, raised money to provide advertising for the shelters animals, transported animals to no-kill shelters and arranged and conducted adoption days at local area stores. Gillen was terminated by McCleery on May 13, 2003:
The letter from McCleery is quite cordial and it thanks Gillen "for all of your past volunteer work and transporting of our animals to other shelters."
But the letter continues "We believe that continued association between your non-profit organization and ours is not in the best interest of the Humane Society of Southern New Jersey."

So the question needs to be asked - how is a non-profit organization which saves the lives of animals from the Camden County Animal Shelter not in the best interest of the Humane Society of Southern New Jersey? "
http://www.pawsnj.org/intro.html
here is the website of New Jersey Paws it has all the information about all of the parties involved and links to the legal documentation filed with the state of New Jersey. I've sent a few letters already, thank you guys for helping. I'm not personally involved with NJPaws, but I've been following the story and I pray that they remove McCleery from directing the shelter.

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posted 09-29-2003 10:07 AM         

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I can't seem to find any specific articles on this, even when I follow the link above. Can anyone tell me where I can find info?

Also - did this happen at Camden County Animal Shelter? I may be mistaken, but I think I just watched a "Pet Story" this past weekend about a dog being adopted from that same shelter. The episode was called "Jason's Healing" and the shelter seemed like a good one! I hope it's not the same one.

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posted 09-29-2003 07:08 PM         

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This site is mostly legal documentation that has been filed with the State of New Jersey. It gives you links and addresses to the offices that hold public records regarding the case. You can pull up the affidavits from the Vetrinarians as well as the Vet techs that worked there, regarding the condition of the animals. Unfortunately you don't get the Courier Post, but their email and mailing address is listed on the NJPaws site. There is also a link to email the News Paper asking for more coverage of the case.

If the show was about the Camden County Animal Shelter of NJ. Yes that's the one. They are well known in these parts, but unfortunately the image they hold in south jersey is not so positive.

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