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lilylover
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posted 03-05-2004 02:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
Do people take on so many animals and obviously cant look after them. It makes me angry.I need to get this off my chest i hope you don't mind
Let me start from the beginning
I took in a stray two months ago,she was at my door nearly twenty four hours a day, cold and very hungry and i tried desperately to find her owners to no avail.
So i kept her with me after realising she was pregnant. yesterday her owner knocked on my door demanding her cat back(she'd seen the cat in the window) and almost accused me of stealing her. She said that i didn't do enough to find her owners and she was going out of her mind with worry, she never advertised the cat as missing, apparently this was my job!!! (which i had done)
She also said that i shouldn't have let the cat in but i couldn't have left her out in the cold when she was there all the time.
I asked her if she knew the cat was pregnant and she said yes she is 6 weeks,and that she was having five kittens how she would know this is beyond me as i have had her near two months. Also she told me that this cat is three and this will be her fourth litter. I stressed the importance of keeping her in and getting her neutered (which i was prepared to do had she stayed with me)
Any way after handing the cat back, i spoke to one of my neighbours who knows of this woman and she told me this woman has six cats in total, none of which had been neutered and i didn't realsie that actually it was her own cats making the little female pregnant-two being the females offspring. She also has a huge dog of which all the cats are frightened of and five kids to look after with another on the way!!
My neighbour is feeding two of her cats that go to her daily as they are always hungry. How can some people be so irresponsible??

This woman has offered me one of the kittens so at least i will know at this one will be looked after. I felt so guilty handing the cat back but i knew she wasn't mine to keep but now i am really worried that this poor cat is going to keep getting pregnant and they are going to do nothing about it.

I have been told not to let the cat back in if she comes back but how can i turn my back on her??

I don't what else i can do.

I can only take comfort in the fact that the cat was happy here as she had plenty of oppertunities to go home and she didn't.

Thanks for reading

Lilylover

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charmedagain
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posted 03-05-2004 03:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, That was so sweet of you not many people will take an animal in off the streets i must say if a cat came to my door and would not leave i would have to take it in especially if it was cold and hungry.

It is strange how the woman knows how many kittens the cat is having unless her male cat mated with her 5 times and she thinks thats why she having 5kittens, not that it works like that lol.

What got me annoyed was her accusing you of stealing that cat and saying you should not have let it in what she should realise is if you did not take it in then the cat could have been killed or hurt and since you had her 2months it shows she was not taht bothered about where it was or she would have knocked on everyones door asking if they have seen the cat and if they could check there garages and sheds.

If you suspect neglect which i would say she is with allowing her females to keep producing litters.
For a almost 4yr old cat that means the cat is having kittens every year i would report her to the proper authorities and tell them the situation and see what they will do as i thinks its disgusting how she is treating these little guys.

Once again good on you for taking in and looking after this poor animal.

Mike.

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lilylover
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posted 03-05-2004 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Mike,
Thankyou for replying,
Do you know if i were to report her, would the authorities tell her who made the complaint?
The women is quite agressive and i am sure if she knew it were me, she would come looking for me. But i feel i should maybe do something.

Thanks Again
Lilylover

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Samsintentions
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posted 03-05-2004 05:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
No, You can request your self as annoynomous and they can't say anything to her.

Frankly, you have nothing to be scared about over her. Let your neighbors know the situation if they already don't, and they'll stand beside you. Though I wouldn't make it public that you called in. Word can get around.

If the cat comes back, don't turn away from it. Do what you can again, and call the authorities, they'll come and get it, and if she comes a knockin...you just tell her the AC came to get her, you thought she was lost and dint' know who's it was! That'll teach her not to neglect her animals and allow them to roam like that in a neighborhood!

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charmedagain
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posted 03-05-2004 05:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
Hiya since your in the Uk contact either the Cat Protection League or the RSPCA you can ask to keep your name annoynomous.

Sounds like these kittys really need help as the more kittens these cats are having the weaker the females become and the risks of cancers becomes high resulting in some cases where there is no treatment and operations would be of no use since it got to far.

I am behind you 100% in contacting them as i would do the same thing.

Also like sam says if the kitty comes back take her back in dont turn her away as she will most likely come back the first chance she gets out.

Bless these poor animals people that just let there animals get pregnant al the time is disgusting and to have them closely related is even worse.

Good luck and please keep us posted of any progress.
The telephone numbers are in the phone book or you can contact a vet who will give you the numbers.

Mike

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lilylover
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posted 03-05-2004 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks - you have been a great help, i already have the number for the cats protection league and i will get the number for the RSPCA.

I will need think carefully about this and decide what is the best way to deal with it. I agree that she will probably come back first chance she gets out and when she does i definatly won't turn her away.

I will keep you updated on how things go

Thanks again

Lilylover

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kyles101
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posted 03-05-2004 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
sounds like one of our old neighbours. had 5 cats, none were sterilised, they were always having kittens, the cats were always in my yard attacking my cat. the owners were a bunch of hippies who walked around half naked with the windows open. the area we used to live in had sooo many strays it was ridiculous. we took in 2. one had to be taken to a shelter and we found a home for a kitten who bolted into our house looking for food.

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lilylover
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posted 03-17-2004 06:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
Hi
Just an update on whats been happening with the cat for those of you that are interested.
I decided to wait until the cat has had the kittens and give this woman a chance to get her neutered. if she doesn't do this then i will be calling the authorities.

Since being returned to her owner two weeks ago has come back at least seven times.
The first time being five days after she was returned. The womans daughter came looking for the cat at about 3.00pm i had her from early morning. I told her that i hadn't seen it, but took her back later on saying i'd found her on the street.When i took her back the woman answered the door wearing her underwear with a robe over the top not bothering to cover herself and a cigarette hanging out of her mouth it was clear she'd been like this all day so she clearly wasn't bothered about finding the cat.
The next day the cat came back, again early morning and i took her in for a while.The daughter had come at around 5.00pm but the cat had gone out and my daughter told her we hadn't seen it. i was kinda hoping the cat would go home by herself. The woman came back at 8.40pm(reeking of alcohol) and demanded her cat back,(i didn't actually have her at this point) i told her i hadn't seen her and if i did i would bring her back. She told me that she was really worried that she might go off and have the kittens somewhere and i asked her had she walked the streets to look for her she said no and i then asked does the cat answer to the name they had given her her answer was "i dont know its my daughter who calls her" ??????
She then proceeded to tell me about her sleeping arrangements and how many tablets she was on a day,(i was shocked that she would discuss this with me) she also admitted to me that the dog is always attacking the cats and that they were frightened of it

Any way later on that night the cat turned up so i thought i should take her back i knocked the door and i could hear the kids running riot upstairs but no answer. I took the cat back to mine and when my husband came home he took her back and it was one of the daughters who answered the door she never said anything and took the cat and shut the door!!

The next day the elder daughter cornered my daughter in school and demanded we give her cat back!!!
Twice i have taken her back and there has been nobody in.
I have just been letting the cat come and go as it pleases,Then yesterday the cat came back and came in when i let my own cat in so i let her have something to eat(shes always starving and wolfs the food) and then she went wandering round the house. I didn't know where she was then found her in my wardobe she then looked in all the wee hidey holes we have around the house, This led me to believe that she is getting ready to have the kittens, my husband panicked and took her back again the daughter answered took the cat and shut the door. Two hours later the cat was back again. So i let her in as it was late and about an hour later i let her out again. i was expecting a knock at the door but ten minutes later i heard the woman standing at my back fence calling the cat.

Then first thing this morning the cat was at my back door!! she's still here.

I have decided not to take the cat back anymore(the cat will not go back on its own) if this woman wants her she will have to come for her. I think this woman is letting the cat out assuming i will take her back to her each time but like i said to my husband its not my responsibility to be running about after this woman, either i have the cat full time or not at all. This situation is really stressing me out because i feel really guilty about handing her back to these people and i am a nervous wreck when i have got the cat because i do not want to upset this woman for fear of what she might do.

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Samsintentions
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posted 03-17-2004 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
That should be enough for you to call. Obviously she's wanting to have the kittens with you where she feels safe. They don't take care of her, what makes you think they're going to take care of the kittens?
I would really call if I were you, Or offer to buy her from them.

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MaryNH
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posted 03-17-2004 06:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaryNH     Edit/Delete Message
do you have any no-kill shelters in your area?

AT this point (since you have to live beside these imbeciles) I would take the cat to a no-kill shelter and say it had been hanging around, obviously pregnant and you don't know who it belongs to.

Or your husband found her wandering around near where he works...something anything to keep these people from continually harrassing you (and your daughter) about where the cat is. At some point (if you keep her) she's going to be seen from your windows.

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fleafly
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posted 03-17-2004 01:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
I would not have given the cat back to her. I would have let her take me to court over it. No judge would give an animal back to such a negligent owner. It's doubtful that she would have been able to prove ownership anyway since she didn't buy it and it wasn't registered.

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nern

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posted 03-17-2004 05:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
I think you should just keep this cat. If you are worried that the woman might find out and do something nasty I think maybe it would be best to bring her to a no-kill shelter or maybe even talk one of your friends or family members (that lives a little farther from this woman) into fostering her for you until you can find her and her babies permanent homes.
Best of luck. Please keep us posted.

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lilylover
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posted 03-18-2004 04:13 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
Thankyou all for your kind and helpful replys.
At around 7pm last night the woman had sent her five year old daughter round to see if i had seen the cat but i said that i hadn't seen her.
The cat was with me until about 10.30pm and i let her out and haven't seen her today.
Its raining so theres a chance she could be sheltering somewhere.

We had actually thought of finding someone to look after her until the kittens were born and found new homes, my mum who lives three miles away said she would do it at a last resort. As she is at work all day and has animals of her own she really Doesn't want to take any permanant animals. I would really love to keep the cat but i don't think this will be possible, This woman obviously doesn't care about her but is using it as a reason to cause trouble
(from what i have heard this is one of her favourite pastimes with all her immeadiate neighbours)

I was going to wait until the kittens are born but you are right this woman cant even look after herself never mind all these animals. I will wait until my husband comes home from work and discus it with him, but i think the best bet will be to take her to or call the local shelter

Thank you all again and i will let you know what happens

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Samsintentions
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posted 03-19-2004 07:01 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
Thats good, If she does return, keep her. The lady can not prove that the cat is there, and can not come into your home unwelcomed or with out permission, this would be tresspassing. Not only that, but if she threatens you in ANY way, you need to call the police and file a charge. THat way if something later happens, you'll have that documented.
As for the idiot sending her 5 yr old daughter out ALONe in a neighbor hood, where she could be kidnapped, hit by a car...ect...

What the heck!!!! Oh I wish I was in your shoes, I'd show her a thing or two!!!!

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KittyKat
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posted 03-21-2004 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KittyKat     Edit/Delete Message
Lilylover you have not send a response yet about the kitty.How are things working out?

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lilylover
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posted 03-22-2004 07:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lilylover     Edit/Delete Message
I spoke to my husband, he's not keen to take her to the shelter he would much rather we kept her. On my last post i told you that i hadn't seen the cat that day, later on the three daughters came looking for her and they hadn't seen her for two days i was really worried that something had happened to her and as i was going out anyway i told the girls i would look round the neighbourhood for her.
While i was looking i saw the five year old out on her own looking and the two oldest girls had gone straight home after telling me
They would be out looking as well.
I didn't find her but the next day i found out my neighbour had her and had returned her.
I am just waiting for the cat to come back to me which i know she will and this woman has a fight on her hands because i am determined no matter what that this poor little puss is not going back to her.This woman can do what she likes i am past caring about her the cat is my main concern.

I also found out from the youngest daughter that another neighbour had taken in one of her cats and refused to give it back. i will have to try and speak to her to find out what happened.

Thats it for now and i will keep you posted its just a matter of waiting until the cat comes back.

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KittyKat
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posted 03-22-2004 05:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KittyKat     Edit/Delete Message
If the cat comes back and you keep it.I would suggest first thing you do is take it to the vet.
And if that stupid woman comes back for it just tell her that you just got a new pet cat from the pet store and its yours.Maybe you could keep the cat then.

[This message has been edited by KittyKat (edited 03-22-2004).]

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KittyKat
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posted 03-23-2004 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for KittyKat     Edit/Delete Message
How are things going on with the cat?

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