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LottynTrike
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posted 11-29-2003 02:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LottynTrike     Edit/Delete Message
is that safe. its a cat... not a human

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MaydaysMom
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posted 11-29-2003 03:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaydaysMom     Edit/Delete Message
I dont know the specifics on the atkins diet. Cats need alot of protien in their diet and alot of something called taurine.
Grains are usually only used in cat food as a filler. Some grains such as brown rice do add some protien but have little use other than supplying a filler.
Is your cousin actually trying to get the cat to lose weight? Or does your friend just want to provide home cooked food?
Definately have your cousin speak with its vet. With out proper research you can be doing your cat more harm than good.

Here is a very good book on cat and dog nutrition: Dr. Pitcarins natural health for dogs and cats.
He goes into detail on the types of supplements and nutrients both dogs and cats need. He also goes into how to make home made food and supplies recipes and percentages.

Good luck I hope the kitty is ok.

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LottynTrike
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posted 11-29-2003 03:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LottynTrike     Edit/Delete Message
he wants the cat to lose weight!!! i couldnt believe it. isnt the atkins diet hard on the kindney? you have to drink alot of water when on that diet. it scares me, how are you going to make a cat understand that it is on a special diet and it needs to drink alot of water or else its kindneys will fail, sorry kitty but thats way it is, drink up!.

i dont know maybe i am over reacting but, this cat could have serious pain for no reason. well she could be in pain becasue her parents are putting her a diet that isnt good for her.

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Cat
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posted 11-29-2003 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

First of all, to clear up misconceptions about the Atkins diet - one doens't have to eat any more protein than they are now....just simply reduce their carbohydrate intake. I am on it now and I don't eat any more meat than I did before.

As for cats, from all my vet's advice, cats should reduce their calorie intake. I don't know the ins and outs of cat diets but weight loss should be gradual and if a cat loses 1-3 pounds in a week or even a month is way too fast. My vet suggested my cat should lose no more than a pound in a month or even two!

As for cats having too much protein, my sisters cat was on a home-made diet ( a well balenced one) and her kitty developed kidney disease as a result of too much protein. So it is possible. And as Maydays Mom mentioned, a cat needs taurine and other nutrients which I don't think they will get from eating just plain meat.

Please tell your cousin that the diet his cat is on isan't safe at all and fast weight loss isn't safe. It does removes fat from the body but leaves fat around the organs such as the heart which is very dangerous. A slow controlled weight loss is the best way to go.

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LottynTrike
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posted 11-29-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LottynTrike     Edit/Delete Message
I didnt think it was safe, and i told them so but they said it was fine. the cat is on a total meat diet. come on that cant be good for anybody, be it human or cat. also i heard that if a cat goes on a crash diet it can die with in three days of the diet. i tired to talk to them about the cat but they were set in their ways. oh well thanks for your relpies.

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Katerina
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posted 11-29-2003 06:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Katerina     Edit/Delete Message
If your cousin is worried about the cats weight a vet's weight loss plan is the best way to go, by no means should any human weight loss program be forced upon a cat, it's just not healthy

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nern

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posted 11-29-2003 06:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
LottynTrike: Is this a homemade diet or a prescription diet?

Cats are carnivores and a high protein diet, low carb diet is natural for them.
Hill's has recently come out with a new prescription "adkins type" diet for obesity and/or diabetes mellitus called Hill's m/d. The protein is 45% in this dry food.

Your cousin should really speak to a vet about this because rapid weight loss can be quite dangerous to a cat as can a homemade diet that is not properly balanced.

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nern

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posted 11-29-2003 06:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
the cat is on a total meat diet.

So the cat gets meat and thats it? Is he adding supplements?
Regardless, an all meat diet is likely to be lacking in lots of things. Sounds pretty dangerous to me.
What or who gave your cousin the idea to do this?

[This message has been edited by nern (edited 11-29-2003).]

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nern

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posted 11-29-2003 07:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe you can print this article for your cousin: http://www.provet.co.uk/petfacts/healthtips/meat.htm
"ALL MEAT DIETS - DANGEROUS TO CATS AND DOGS
We know an awful lot about the nutritional requirements of cats and dogs, yet every year veterinarians see pets that have got broken legs and even fractured spines, simply because they have been fed on an exclusively meat ration.

For some reason owners believe that meat is good and that they are doing the best for their animal by feeding the "best steak" or "fresh liver" to their pet. Meat as part of a balanced diet is good, particularly for cats which are strict carnivores. It provides an excellent source of protein and other nutrients, but it must be mixed with other ingredients to create a properly balanced ration..

The reason is that meat and offal are deficient in calcium, and relatively high in phosphorus. As a result, if you feed an exclusively meat or offal diet your poor pet will have to maintain it's blood calcium levels by removing calcium from it's body stores. As you know, most of the body's calcium reserves are in the bony part of the skeleton. So, your pet's clever hormone system will remove calcium from the bone to keep the amount circulating in the bloodstream "normal". The result is decalcification of the bone, which leads to thin, brittle bones. These bones can fracture very easily - even the act of walking can cause a fracture. Unless the dietary problem is corrected your veterinarian won't even be able to repair the fractures because the bones won't heal properly. Eventually, untreated animals will become totally debilitated, and possibly paralysed if the spine fractures .

Provet advice : NEVER feed an exclusively meat or offal ration to your pet. Ask your veterinarian about his/her recommendations for feeding your animal.

Provet advice : NEVER compile your own ration for your pet without getting the formula approved by an independent advisor - your veterinarian !"


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LottynTrike
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posted 11-29-2003 07:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LottynTrike     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you so much for your replies. I really dont think my cousin is trying to harm his cat. I think is just tryying to do what is "best" for the cat. along the way i think he was misinform. I will rely all of the suggestions to him. maybe we can get the cat on a better diet plan. i just dont want something bad to happen to the cat becasue he was tryying to do what he thought was best for the cat. thanks again!!

my thing for any animal is alway ask a vet first. i just feel you can go wrong. but people do things differently ya know!! so maybe with all this new info he will find a better way for his cat to lose weight thanks again folks!! lotty

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