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Brenye
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posted 07-11-2003 03:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenye     Edit/Delete Message
My husband has decided that since we can not get the cats to stop pottying where they are not supposed to that we must get rid of them, and I was wondering if anyone knows how I can find a no kill shelter in the Daytona Beach Florida area, or possibly the Houston Texas area (is where we are moving to).

Unfortunately considering the cats are adults I do not see them ever being adopted and I do NOT want them put to sleep, minus the potty problem they are the sweetest cats you will ever meet.

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Cat
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posted 07-11-2003 02:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
What methods have you tried to stop them from using the bathroom in undesirable areas? There are many things you can try. Have you also had them checked out by the vet? Sometimes, cats will use the bathroom in places other than their litter box when they are sick. How old are they? Maybe we cna help with this problem before you give away your pets.

[This message has been edited by Cat (edited 07-11-2003).]

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nern

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posted 07-11-2003 10:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe your cats would do better in single-pet homes...you never know. Im sorry that you have not found a solution to the problems.
For no-kill shelters you can go to : www.petfinder.com
At the top of the page click on " Shelter and Rescue Groups" upon choosing a State you will see a list of shelters in your area....some of them may state that they are no kill shelters (after clicking on them) and others you might have to call to find out but the phone numbers are listed as well.
If you have any SPCA's in your area or the area you are moving to you might want to try calling them as well. There are at least 2 no-kill SPCA's here in NY and various other no-kill rescue groups. Good luck.

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Brenye
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posted 07-11-2003 10:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenye     Edit/Delete Message
I have three cats 2 males one female. Two out of the three have potty problems. I've had the male orange tabby and the female longhaired tortiose for 2 years now both were fixed at 6 weeks of age, and the white siamease/white alley cat mix since september of last year who was fixed at 3-4 months of age.
At first the female used the litter box, then my husband and I went on vacation for a month and the person who was supposed to take care of the cats (in our home) ended up locking them up in the bathroom for most of the day, aparently only letting them out to eat, and didn't clean the cat box but maybe once the whole time we were gone. When we came home the whole bathroom looked like one giant cat box, ever since then the female refuses to use the cat box (we even placed a spare one in the hall to no avail) she pees/poos in the hall just outside the cat box. We've tried cleaning it with all sorts of cleaners, from baking soda, viniger, alchol, and special "smell be gone" sprays. Nothing has worked. We are at our witts end she has been doing this for well over a year and previously we loved her enough to just keep cleaning up after her, but now we have a new baby and I can't have him be around that once he starts crawling, so its either get her to stop or put her to sleep .

As if that wasn't enough the 1yr old siamease/alley cat mix pees on any towels, sheets, comforters that are anywhere he can get to them, as well as the futon. If those things aren't around he uses the cat box, and he poos in the cat box always. We have tried the furniture spray thats supposed to keep them off... just made them jump up all the more and wander around sniffing. We used all the same cleaners we used in the hall and none worked. He has been fixed since we got him at 3-4 months of age, but according to all the packages we read he is not spraying because thats a small amount and he pees a huge amount. I can't have him doing that, he peed on my son's matress/sheets. We had to buy a whole new set which is costly.

The third cat uses the bathroom just fine, but we would have to get rid of him as well if we got rid of the other two because when we took the other two to the vet a while back the whole time they were gone the orange tabby meowed like someone was swinging him around by his tail and didnt shut up except for a few min here and there when he slept, he didn't even eat the whole day and 1/2 they were gone.

We used the Feliway spray in both areas and it has yet to work. We are moving at the end of this month and its coming down to the wire, we don't want to have to pay the 1000 in pet fees/deposits if we are going to have to get rid of them so we have to find something that works. I love my cats and if it wasn't for worries of my son's health I would continue to just clean up after them, but if it comes down to choosing the choice will most deff be my son.
We also were looking into the felway plug in, but the vets we have called all said it keeps them from pottying in a 650 sqft area, and our new apartment is 647sqft so that wouldn't work because their cat box would be in the effected area. All my other cats I have had have always been housebroken (would scratch on door to be let out to go potty), but living in Florida along the river there are aligators and I don't want them to get eaten.

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nern

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posted 07-11-2003 11:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
What a bad situation. Looks like you have one with a behavior problem and one with a territorial problem (which would most likely be fine if other cats werent around). The third one might be upset for a short time without the other cats but I really think he would adjust and be fine then again thats just my opinon. Im sorry you are going through this and hope everything works out.

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Cat
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posted 07-11-2003 11:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

I also have a new baby and can complety understand your concerns. That is quite a situation. My inital suggestion would have been to use a spray to neutralise the scent so they wouldn't return - but you've tried that. My second thought is that there maybe too many cats for the space you live in if they are soley indoor cats. I had two cats in a 700 sq foot apt and even though they are litter mates, they were competing for attention, space, food etc. Since moving into a house with plenty of space for the both of them, their personalities and attitudes towards each other have changed for the better. I'm sure the situation when you went away certainly doesn't help matters, seeing thats what looks like to have started the issue. Have you tried an extra large litter box, such as a really long and wide storage bin (3' x 3'x 12-15" deep) Maybe a larger space would help?

I don't know if you considered this, but from the sounds of it, you would like them to all go to one home as you mention the orange tabby doesn't like to be seperated. If you give them up to a shelter, there is a very good chance they will be seperated. And if the new owners do not realise they are adopting a cat with litter box problems, your kitty could be headed to a shelter without a "no kill" policy or abondoned. Its a horrible thought, but one you must consider if you love your pets. If possible, can you place them with a friend or family who you can keep in touch with and who you know won't seperate them and will work on their problem with them?

Good luck.

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Brenye
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posted 07-13-2003 07:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenye     Edit/Delete Message
unfortunately the only family we have is my mother and she has 3 cats 2 dogs and 1 turtle not to mention my 5 sisters and 1 brother. I understand they may not be placed together but hopefully being in the shelter they can have their problems worked on. Currently we have a 1500sqft apartment but are having to downsize to the 647sqft apt. Since all the "no kill" shelters here are full up we are going to take the cats with us to houston and hope a change of houseing (and virgin carpet plus a new futon) will change their potty habbits, if not there are quite a few more no kill shelters in that area then here.
But any other ideas on their potty problems would be great.

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Cat
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posted 07-13-2003 08:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Hi

I did a little research on the internet and found a few sites that might relate to your problem and hopefully offer a few solutions.
http://www.petcaretips.net/cat_elimination_problems.html
http://www.animaltrustees.org/litter_box_probs.htm
http://www.iluvcats.com/retcatslitbo.html

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Kat
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posted 08-21-2003 09:30 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Cats donít usually pee or poop in the house like that unless they are sick or the box is not kept clean. Try putting a little ammonia under the litter, it smells like urine & may encourage them to go in the box. Try putting a kitty litter box elsewhere in the house. I would never give my cats up for a man.

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Brenye
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posted 08-21-2003 10:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenye     Edit/Delete Message
good news, change of houses fixed the potty problem (we couldn't find a no kill shelter in FL so took them with, glad we did) and they all do just fine with the new baby, they still haven't learned the crib is not THEIR bed, but at least they aren't peeing on it or anything else for that matter, tho when we get the new futon matress we will see if that holds.

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fleafly
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posted 08-21-2003 01:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
I was going to suggest that a change of environment might help. They don't have the bad memories of when you went on vacation, and the territory is neutral so they are all on equal ground. Glad to hear they are doing well.

p.s. I had many cats in a small place, and they were fine. 3 cats in 650 sq feet is not bad at all.

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Cat
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posted 08-21-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cat     Edit/Delete Message
Thats wonderful news!!!! Congrats!

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Thorn
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posted 08-22-2003 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Thorn     Edit/Delete Message
quote:
they still haven't learned the crib is not THEIR bed

there are a few things you can do about this as well. one, obviously, is just close the door to the baby's room.

there is also a 'crib tent' you can get, looks like this:

from Tots In Mind

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TKSche1
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posted 08-22-2003 07:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TKSche1     Edit/Delete Message
I initially had a problem with my kitten going under our bed. I discovered that her litter box wasn't big enough for her and I wasn't putting enough litter in it. I bought her the super-size litter box and I use regular, old fashioned clay litter, unscented. I make sure I fill it upa little over half way. I'm also careful to give her a lot of privacy. Not sure if either of these factors could be contributing to your problem. Hope you can resolve the issue and I'll be praying for your kitties.

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Brenye
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posted 08-23-2003 10:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Brenye     Edit/Delete Message
The baby's room is the same as ours atm, and the baby acctually sleeps in the bed with us so its not /that/ big of a deal that they go in there atm, but it will be. And closeing the door isn't an option because my orange tabby meows so loud when a door is shut that the people who live down-stairs have complained. And we tried a crib tent thingy, they just ended up laying on the top of that and eventually it sunk in
But thanks for looking that up, was right nice of you

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fleafly
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posted 08-23-2003 02:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fleafly     Edit/Delete Message
My cats would probably just lay on top of the tent too! I got a chuckle out of that.

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