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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 04-01-2003 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
It's like this...The un is full of a bunch of p*sses..I am all for war.Saddam killed so many of our guys in dessert storm.He brought his country to where it is now.I feel no sypathy for any of them.This is my country,they need to keep their a**es in their own.You can call me what ever you want.I don't care.That is what we have freedom of speech.
I do not believe Bush had anything to do with 9/11,but I do believe they could have prevented it.There will always be taxes here.
How dare any of you say that some immigrant is more qualified for a job in the USA and an American is not.That's a load of sh*t!

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shmoopie
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posted 04-02-2003 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmoopie   Click Here to Email shmoopie     Edit/Delete Message
So whatever happened to Bin Ladden? Seems he's been let off the hook?

Sorry, but Albert, I'm with Russ, he's trying to share with you, but you attack him...you're a typical angry american. Get over yourself and listen to what is being said...please open your mind. You have made good points as well Russ has made some great points...just need to listen and not respond with what you've been fed to believe.

It's a funny thing this debate. I have a friend who grew up with me here in CANADA and has recently moved to California. Weird how someone who has always been peaceful and against war has somehow been brainwashed enouph to get angry at me when I told her we're all against the war.

Now tell me who's brainwashing who?

Pit Princess, your last post bothers me a wee bit. I would like to ask your heritage?
My family escaped the war in Hungary. My heritage is a mix of Itlain, Hungarian and Irish (I'm a hinz 57 hehe) I have been educated and work in a great postion where I am respected and liked by all because I eanred it, not because of my colour or heritage. If you look far back enouph down your family line, you too will realize you are an imigrant. The US and Canada is the land of imigrants....we're all imigrants so in a sense youre saying that you have no right to take the job you do because your steeling it away from another imigrant? I would hate to see that because i think the world would be a sadder place if you weren't doing what you do!

[This message has been edited by Auspetian (edited 04-02-2003).]

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Albert
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posted 04-02-2003 09:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
shmoopie,

I took a long yawn while reading your post.

As to whatever you and Russ said about Bin Laden and i quote:

"So whatever happened to Bin Ladden? Seems he's been let off the hook?"

My answer:
Who said that "Bin Ladden is off the hook?" are you guys working in the Pentagon now to know this fact ?.

The hunt for the low life continues and just because you don't hear much about it in the news does not mean he is off the hook. The coward is hiding inside a sheep a** in some cave and finding him is not an easy task. They'll get to him sooner or later.....it is all about priorities. His network has become worthless and it does not matter anymore weather he is dead or alive.

He is currently a dead man walking.....only a matter of time before they'll get his butt TOO.

And as to "I'm sticking to RUSS" thing.......hahahah. You know what they say about flys. They always stick to s**t.

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Russ
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posted 04-02-2003 11:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Albert, can you only answer a valid question with another question as dumb as "Do you work in the pentagon now?" Just leave it alone if you don't know the answer.

You are assuming just as much as I am, but all your assumptions are the ones fed to you by the media. You might as well just post all of the damn news quotes in here. Or something original at least.

You contradict yourself with words you said to me when I first came into this forum. It makes me think you are most likely trying to instigate conflict with me because I beat you up so bad on the pitbull topic. At least you admitted to learning something on the topic, that is why i tried so hard, because I knew more than you and I wanted to help someone learn the truth not the myths about pits.

But honestly I really don't have time to argue with you and dig up evidence to back my points. I tried with princess because I really believe she is thinking too negative, but with you I don't really give a flying **** Just go on thinking the way you do. I could care less and hope you live the way you do till you pass on and leave your kids some debt when you die. The good old fashioned American way.

You should have immigrated to USA instead of Oz and stolen some American's job. I assume that is the same as a chinaman coming to America and getting a job. Hmmmm or is it a white thing?

Go USA!!!
God bless America........and no one else. LOL
Go watch your WWF wrestling and drink some more budweiser Albert.

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Albert
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posted 04-03-2003 12:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
I no longer expect you to understand what i am bragging about. You are just not equipped enough to bring a valid argument and by the looks of things probably came from a country (evident by your “sponsored media thing”, “and the media disinformation”) were lies is an everyday thing.......let me guess, China ?. You sound like a paranoid comi.

Well i can understand your conspiracy theories now, coming from a country like you did were they force women to make abortion because they’ve passed the one child limit.

And no, i am not white and it is not the white thing. ITS THE FRICKING COMMON SENSE THING, DUMBO.

GABISH?

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Russ
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posted 04-03-2003 01:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
For your record,
I didn't immigrate anywhere. I am 100% pureblood earthling human.

"Well i can understand your conspiracy theories now, coming from a country like you did were they force women to make abortion because they’ve passed the one child limit."

I am not from China anyways, and from your common sense I can really tell that you just read books and watch tv alot. You have no common real sense only book knowledge, try sticking 1 billion people in Australia you nut, and see how well your country can deal with it.
Do you have any idea what the population of China is? moron how can you say things so stupid and expect anyone to think you have half a brain.

You are just a sour old man. Go watch crocodile hunter and learn something.

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Albert
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posted 04-03-2003 04:42 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
So now you justify forced abortions in humans and I’m the nut.

Mate you need some serious re-education you poor excuse for a human being.

Lets try sticking 1 billion ppl up your a**s you comi bustard. Maybe then your brain will be functioning better.

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 04-03-2003 09:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
You guys are getting to carried away for my.I am not gonna argue like that.Russ,I respect your opinion.Shmoopie,I respect your opinion.Albert,I respect your opinion.
I have always tried not to judge people by their skin,because we were all created by the same GOD.Sense 9/11 it has changed me in a way that I never thought I would be.I have always had respect for all forms of life,but when I saw the plain crash in to the twin towers....everything changed.Then ,after finding out that our gov let them into our country and payed for them to go to school.Man, that really pissed me out.I am not only angry at them,I am angry with our gov.It is their fault that it happened.If they were not allowed to be here,then there is a less chance that 9/11 would have happened.
War is a horrible thing.In the end no one really wins,because everyone losses something.I do feel this war is very important.We need to let all terrorist know that the USA will not be anyones victom.
You know, I had to get on a plain a few weeks ago and do you what to know what the first thing I did.I look to see if there was anyone from the Middle East on the plain.I am sorry,but I should not have to be afraid to get on a plain or ride a bus and be afraid if someone is going to blow it up.
I don't want any one here to think that I am atacking ther opinions,because that is not my intent.Everyone has a right to their own opinions.Just as I have the right to mine.

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 04-03-2003 10:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
Russ,
By the way I do watch WWF...lol...

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shmoopie
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posted 04-03-2003 01:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmoopie   Click Here to Email shmoopie     Edit/Delete Message
Albert,
I lauph when I read you posts! hahahahahaha


You're just a big old goof. You are narrow minded. And I feel like macing you through this computer as to your comment on fly's sticking to shit...you deserve a nice smack for that :0

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Russ
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posted 04-03-2003 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Princess,

Our pitbulls are getting the same bad rap you are giving to the people from Iraq, I ran, Irun, Ioverthere, or wherever you you don't like people coming over from.

This doesn't mean I support terrorism. I don't ok. I see it like this:

A small number of people from those areas are involved in terrorism, how can you condemn them all for the crimes of the few?

Just like pitbulls, you spend alot of time defending these dogs, not all are bad, only a few rotten apples. So how can the whole damn world see them as a dangerous dog? The answer is the media, close mindedness and ignorance.

Not everyone from the middle east is a terrorist. I am more terrified of some tyrant like Bush, pushing the big red button and our whole world going up in smoke, than an airplane crashing into my house or my office building.

There is a big reason why these people have such a hatred of American politics. They didn't just spin a bottle and choose who to terrorize.
It is only going to get worse and alot more people will be dieing, Americans and Iraq.

Thats all I wanted to say to you.

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 04-03-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
Russ,
I hear what you are say and I understand where you are comming from.I just can't help the way I feel.I hope in time my heart can heel and my mind will change,but at this moment I feel the way I feel.I respect the way you look at things and you veiws.

AS for standing up for pitbulls,they are animals and are innocent.Humans make them the way they are.Pitbulls have voices that can only be heard in the heart,and you have to be a special person and what to hear what they have to say.So,therefor I speak what they can not.

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Russ
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posted 04-03-2003 08:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
For anyone interested in Bush's background http://www.bilderberg.org/

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Albert
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posted 04-04-2003 12:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
shmoopie,

The only one deserving a good smack is yourself. This place used to be a great place to visit and communicate until you two Canadian jerks came along and turned it into a battle zone.

Peace advocates my b*tt. You two should go post at www.thedelusionalfools.com and rid us of your crap. I wished the moderator will take the appropriate action and will wave you guys goodbye. You are nothing but trouble here.

And i do view you as a fly.....your buzz over these boards is getting really annoying and i am sure that i am not the only one that feels this way.

YOU two should open your blocked delusional mind and listen for a change. Hackle & Jekel couple. One always post some crap and then the other comes echoing him and voice her support. Such a joke !

Get back to pitbbulls, you’ve made some sense over there ONLY!! The rest was just an annoying load of crap. We’ve even lost Pauline because of you.

Moderator, time to wake Up !!.

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Russ
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posted 04-04-2003 02:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
"Russ,
I hear what you are say and I understand where you are comming from.I just can't help the way I feel.I hope in time my heart can heel and my mind will change,but at this moment I feel the way I feel.I respect the way you look at things and you veiws.

AS for standing up for pitbulls,they are animals and are innocent.Humans make them the way they are.Pitbulls have voices that can only be heard in the heart,and you have to be a special person and what to hear what they have to say.So,therefor I speak what they can not."

Hi Princess,

I hope you can forgive and forget sometime in the future, I know it takes time to overcome something traumatic like this. It is a heavy burden. I once felt this way about a certain race/culture also, but it has healed over and been forgotten for awhile now. Thanks for understanding my views. Glad you didn't leave this forum!!!! Everyone here has their opinions and views and everyone makes a difference.

Where I live, its a buyers market for real estate. All the immigrants that are immigrating here are all quite wealthy. They are buying up alot of the land and houses and developing it all into brand new malls Condominiums and parks etc. Honestly, it's quite nice. The standard of living has raised, the rent prices have decreased.

They are not Iraqis or Iranians tho. I don't know any personally. I wouldn't mind to meet some to have a conversation with someday soon, to hear their views on the topic.

Russ

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RottyMommy

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posted 04-04-2003 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy   Click Here to Email RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
Iknow its a little late but just thought I would add my two sense on the topic. I live in PA. Only about 1 1/2 hours away from where the plane went down that everyone forgot about. I was all for them going after Bin Laden. That war I would have been in support of. But then they started on Saddam and it seems to me that they have forgotten all about Bin Laden who masterminded 4 planes to be highjacked and flown into different important buildings of ours. I dont think Saddam is a good guy by any means but why didnt we finish what we started with Bin Laden. In my eyes all I see is Bush using our anger to his advantage and making us see that the reason we are going after Saddam is because he is an immdediate threat which he wasnt Bin Laden was. He is the one we should have been going after. Personally I think Bush is just finishing what his daddy started. He had the opportunity to do it so he took it and used USAs anger to edge him on and get support. I am nor for this war at all. Too many people believe everthing they hear on the news and dont think that we have propoganda too. We do. And we are getting lots of it now. Some of you are right when you say they show things to keep us patriotic. That is totally true. I am patriotic and 100% American but Bush is not doing this to defend our country he is not going after the mastermind himself who flew planes into the twin towers, the pentagon, and hijacked the other plane that the passengers drove into the ground knowing what was going to happen to them if they didnt. It infuriates me that we havent gone after the person who flat out admitted he did it. We did and then all of a sudden we went after Saddam and let Bin Laden go free what kind of sense does that make.

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 04-04-2003 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
Russ,
You know,You are alright in my book..lol..I like you and I think you are a good person.Lord,knows we need more good people in this world..

Rottymommy,
I agree with you about what you said about Osama.We should be after him.I just think of Saddom as a bonus.We need to get them both.

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shmoopie
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posted 04-04-2003 01:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmoopie   Click Here to Email shmoopie     Edit/Delete Message
Albert, in response to your delusional beliefs. You are the one who is close minded, not Russ nor I. We have been listening to the point of views from Canada, USA, China, Italy and the Iraqi people. You are listening ONLY to the USA; therefore, you are the one who is closed minded, not I.

I have been buzzing over this board, people need to be educated, especially about dogs. On this subject my main concern in that those innocent people who live in Iraq will be helped. From what I can see the USA is going in and doig that as best they can to help the Iraq people gain control of their lives and land. From what I have heard they are being decent about what will happen after they get him. They plan on helping the Iraq people impose a government body that will be run by the Iraq people...I sure hope this is the truth as then the USA will earn my respect and then Bush will be proving his intentions...we'll just have to wait and see.

My heart lies in the middle, I am for the war, but at the same time feel it was started for the wrong reasons. The people in Iraq needed someone to go in and distroy their leader, but at the cost of innocent lives that is wrong.

I think you need to close your empty gap...and I am sooooooooooooo glad you aint over there fighting in this war cause I'm pretty sure you'd be killing those innocent women and children then lauph about it....it is people like you that make me sick to my stomach and confuse me as to how people in this day and age can be so darn ignorant and stuck in their closed minded load of crap.
Maybe it is you that should be removed from the forum...not I
As for Pauline....unfortunatley some people can't read between the lines. It is sad she left without discussing her concerns, but each person is different and will do what they want...good luck to her, I wish her the best of luck as she was a nice person, I however , have different beliefs than she oh well aint the end of the world...we all have different beliefs, which is what our two countries are about being able to speak our minds....thats exactly what I do!

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Doc Helladay
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posted 04-05-2003 01:53 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Albert, lol maybe Russ is a taxidriver Oh by the way...sure glad at the beginning of this your 1 boat didnt hit that (mind) but I am sure after they sent 1 shot missle they all had to say " Good shot mate " Cheers Iraq LOLLLLLLLLLLLL

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Russ
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posted 04-05-2003 06:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Doc,

Actually, I work 2 jobs,
from 7am-11pm I work in a 7-11 convenience store and from 11pm-7am I drive a taxi.

I take naps while I drive.

Gotta do what you gotta do to put food on the table, keep a roof over head and pay taxes.

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Russ
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posted 04-13-2003 02:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.antiwar.com/orig/baghdad.html

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Doc Helladay
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Russ,
Didn't you know Dustin Hoffman is our President? You must be watching the same movie we are "WAG THE DOG" oh and by the way we are all throwing tennis shoes on all our trees and phone lines in AMERICA...We all watch TV in the bathroom. We really don't have real dog shows...the dogs in the shows is just a illusion...OH and another thing you might want to know..there will be NO MORE KMARTS OR WALMARTS IN BAGHDAD....THE UNITED STATES WILL BE replacing them with
NEW TARGETS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Doc~

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Russ
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posted 04-15-2003 12:02 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
oh man............

its been 8 days, I thought you would leave me alone!!!!!!!

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Russ
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posted 04-15-2003 09:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Win the so called battle for humanitarian welfare. Now let them kill eachother.

Why not just move in and call Iraq a state of USA? Take it over. Won fair and square in a so called War.

Who needs to answer to the UN, the USA is the UN (Albert lol)

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Justme
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Personaly I think that we should send over a few nukes and wipe everyone of those towl heads off the map. Just leave one big a** hole and make it some sort of tourist attraction like the grand canyon. I also think they should gather all these anti war pricks and toss them in there before the bombs hit. Ive heard people say "what about all the women and children over there"
and we should not bomb them because there is inocent people over there. Well I say B*** Me. Who the hell was worried about all our inocent people when the trade center fell. It sure as hell wasnt those camel jockeys, they was over there singing and danceing while all hell had broke lose over here.

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