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GinaH Member  Posts: 70 |
posted 03-04-2004 10:44 AM
 
I came across this site and am so totally disgusted the stories are sickening. How can anyone talk so freely about dog fighting as if it were Ok? http://www.ablizinsdogs.com/ IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 03-04-2004 11:02 AM
yeah its pretty crazy. but matches are probably legal in whatever country thats from. i sent him an email asking what country he was in. those are professional matches. those guys dont just throw 2 dogs in a pit and let them go until one is dead, like what happens over here most of the time. there is a referee, and they have i.v.'s and basically a small hospitol so they can care for injured dogs. but i agree it sucks that people are still doing this. what you have to understand about the old school dog men is that they dont believe a pit bull is a pit bull unless it has proven itself to be game. the word pit bull to them is more of what the dog has on the inside than how well it is conformed. IP: Logged |
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shanean Member Posts: 43 |
posted 03-04-2004 11:37 AM
Your right GinaH it's sad.I really can't understand how people get enjoyment out of watching two animals try and fight each other to death.My dogs are my babies,I love them with all my heart I could not imagine sitting by cheering as one was losing or taking a life.It would be like watching my son and niece bet the crap out of each other and happily sit by and watch.NO friggin' way.Where did you find this site?Do you know if it's in the U.S ? IP: Logged |
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GinaH Member Posts: 70 |
posted 03-04-2004 12:20 PM
I came across this website when I did a search for other pet forums. I also came across a forum that was for pit bull fighting and the amazing thing to me was the people discussing this were from my state right in my back yard practically, I live in a very rural community and never would have imagined anything like that was going on. IP: Logged |
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MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 03-04-2004 02:54 PM
I don't want to read it. I will just get upset. Sad so sad what people do to animals. IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 03-04-2004 03:23 PM
Yeah it IS legal where Demitri is located! He can legally match and post stories and will sell you video before you buy so you can get an idea of what you are getting. He's got some very good and well known bloodlines. DirtyMaryXBolio is phenomonal. Anyway yes it is legal where he is at, if he may not answer your email. IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 03-04-2004 03:44 PM
no i didnt email him acting stupid. i told him i was intrested and i asked him what country he was in. IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 03-05-2004 06:51 AM
he responded, and he's got a ton of videos. and he is in russia. IP: Logged |
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pitbullizzle New Member  Posts: 7 |
posted 03-05-2004 08:39 AM
It is very sad to see dogs get hurt. I know i have a deaf dog and feel for what he has to adjust to. Also the bad thing is when people choose to be bad people have that choice and they make that decision .When they do this to dogs its sad cause they didn't choose to live the life of fighting. They also didnt asked to be hurt.Its so sad that people treat dogs this way! IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 03-06-2004 05:04 AM
i have an honest question..if these dogs are matched professionally and not to the death, what is the real big problem?? i know this isnt the popular view, but its an honest question.. we have pride fighting, UFC, Boxing, K-1 kickboxing..most people enjoy these evnts, and its basically the same in my eyes.. im not talkin about 2 dogs jus thrown in a pit.. or an unwilling dog.. im talkin about 2 dogs that enjoy doin it.. I think True_pits knows what im talkin about.. so yall tell me what yall think, and keep the insults to yourself.. i know how yall get sometimes lol IP: Logged |
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justice82003 Member Posts: 48 |
posted 03-06-2004 05:37 AM
daddyfs, add me to the most hated on this board list, because I agree with you completly. I could never roll my dog or match him, but I have respect for the people that do it properly. They are the ones keeping the breed true. I don't understand how people can be so against somehing they know nothing about. Like you said these people arent just thowing two dogs in a pit. There matches are set up months in advance. Both dogs are conditioned to there peak. Both dogs weigh almost if not the exact same weight. And if one don't want to fight they quit. There are so many rules, and they take care of there dogs. If he's in russia and it's legal there, I don't see the problem. Joe IP: Logged |
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Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 03-06-2004 07:20 AM
Who was it that said (I HATE WRITING BUT LOVE HAVEN WRITEN?) I hate to say it but the reason the Pit-Bull is in my opinion the most capable all around dog there is, Is because of what it was bread for in the 1st place way back when. The overall health, the stamina, the agility, the speed, the awesome power to weight ratio, the never say die attitude the intensity it displays even in play, the high pain tolerance. These are just a few of the attributes that caricaturizes this noble breed of dog and they are exactly the reasons I love them. If the Pit-Bull is truly your breed of choice you must in brace the total dog including its heritage. I do not believe in matching dogs. But lets face it if the old timers didn’t breed and work these dogs the way they did all we would have now is another worthless has-been of a working dogs like so many others of today. Keep us posted IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 03-06-2004 09:04 AM
now dont get me wrong, im not plannin ongettin a dog and run the streets tryin to fight..i wouldnt fight my dog period (if i had one) but i jus dont see how its that cruel anymore.. i use to, until i read up on it.. i hear peolpe say the dogs dont want to fight.. how do you know that.. when you see the excitement the dogs have when they do it, how can you say they dont want too?? i use to be against it all together, but now im nuetral.. professional dog fighters do not bother me (the real ones)but that doesnt mean i would want to be one.. holla IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 03-06-2004 09:57 AM
hey Benny I hope you didn't think I thought you were acting stupid. If you act interested then sure. But still some people don't respond or check thier email all the time. I was just trying to clear up the matter. He has hella videos and said they are legal to be sent here because they were filmed in Russia. I'm thinking maybe, but not so much if you get busted because they would use that in evidence that you are infact fighting dogs because you own the video. IP: Logged |
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GinaH Member Posts: 70 |
posted 03-06-2004 01:52 PM
Benny did you read the article in the scratch & match times that was attached to the site I posted? You said "those are professional matches. those guys dont just throw 2 dogs in a pit and let them go until one is dead" _________________________________ These are quotes from the scratch & match times. The following fights did take place in the USA according to the article. "Bad Rosemary was rolled again this time she killed the other Bitch in eight or nine minutes" How can you say it's not cruel to fight dogs til they are dead or severly wounded?
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 03-08-2004 07:55 AM
okay what i meant to say was they dont just throw them in the pit for one round. they'll stop the fight and make sure that both dogs scratch. if one dog doesn't scratch then the fight is over. but if they both keep scratching, then they keep going until the ref says or one dog can't. IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 03-09-2004 02:16 AM
no, i do not believe you should fight a dog to the death.. thats not a sport.. i jus dont see the problem with matches that have refs and look out for the dog's well being.. i believe there are some out there.. im not an advocate for dog fightin, im jus tryin to look at it from both sides of the fence.. some people might say that WP is abuse.. out there pullin weight around, how do we know that they WANT to do it?? same with dog shows, and definatley sled pull.. now the people out there stravin there dogs and makin them fight to the death, need to be fought to the death.. but the people out there doin it the right way, i jus cant believe they will mistreat their dogs, knowin they put 10s of thousands of dollars on them on any givin night... IP: Logged |
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pitbullizzle New Member Posts: 7 |
posted 03-09-2004 07:19 PM
1st of all i never said i knew what pitbull want. My point was that we have choices and they don't!!!!!! Got it? IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 03-09-2004 07:52 PM
Actually in Russia its not uncommon for them to let the dogs die, sorry but this is the truth over there. Even if a live game dog is worth more they find it noble and honorable for a dog to be to the extreme and die fighting. This is what the kennels over there look for. But GinaH you have to understand that not too many dogs are killers and very few dogs die. Of course in every country this is different, if you've looked at the other Russian kennels you will find similar views. A dog killing another in 8 or 9 mins is quick for any dog and almost unbelievable. Even bone crushers are very rare but you see those who say dogs often die in the pit or due to injuries, and suffer broken bones. This just isn't true. IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 03-10-2004 02:08 AM
no i dont get it... i said a willin dog.. i didnt say a dog that turned tail and run.. but if they are fightin to the death.. i jus dont agree with it..but who am i to judge IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 03-10-2004 07:56 AM
quote:okay i have a question. wouldn't that make it a curr? curr's get "plugged" don't they? but how can you tell if a dog is deep game? if it is physically unable to scratch, but tries to anyways? and what is a game loser? IP: Logged |
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