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bullylove1
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From:Canada
Registered: Feb 2004

posted 03-02-2004 12:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullylove1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi,
I noticed what you wrote about the dog fight in the other column, and thought I would reply to you here so that others may be able to give you more guided help.
I know this message is late, and damn it my internet has been down since Wed. but what did you end up doingabout the fight you found out about for Sat? You need to contact
the Police AND Humane Society
The Police are trained to handle this stuff, and like 99% of the time they raid dog fights, they find guns, drugs and other illegal activity. Please contact the Police and let them know about your "friend" they may be able to put an officer on him to follow, or start an investigation.
This is the same guy you got your pup from? Well, I suggest that as soon as the little guy is feeling better you start socializing wiht other dogs right away. my dog is VERY dogaressive and can not even see another dog without wanting at it. She has never been a fight dog but was abused before we adopted her and was NEVER socilized with other dogs. We have talked to numerous trainers and vets and were advised that some dogs just can't get over their aggression. We have learned to work around her aggression, but I wish that things could be different. A bitches temperment is "handed down" so to speak through her pups, thats why socializing as soon as you can is a neccessity. Puppy "dates"&daycare, I have read on too many places the Pits should not be offleash at dog parks. Not because they are "evil" but because even if they get into a fight with another offleash dog and yours didn't initiate it, but was protecting itself, yours will be the one in trouble, not the other.
Good luck, and keep us posted
Leslie

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Lets not blame the dogs for a trait bred into them by the evilness of man. Lets understand them instead, so we can provide responsible ownership and give them a chance to show the world why they are so deserving of our love.

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Unseen
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From:Dallas Tx Usa
Registered: Feb 2004

posted 03-02-2004 12:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Unseen     Edit/Delete Message
Well the fight didnt take place but I did go to "Hang Out" There was about three pits there, they all looked healthy but were locked up in the yard so I didnt get to see them close up.
The people were talking about Dew clipping I got the idea thats where they take out the "thumb" nail on the dog? And Yes this is where my pup came from and I have another issue that concerns me. My puppy won't go number two outside. He only pees and this morning there was a lil old chinesse lady walking a tiny lil dog while he was trying to pee and he went crazy. Barking not really growling but pulling on the leash and such. Also I find now that hes all better and has gained 11 pounds I am assumuing in his brain cause he remembers everything. This afternoon I gathered my laundry in a big pile, put in a load and (were moving to give him more room)was packing the bathroom I closed the door and he started crying, real tears in his lil green eyes, so I opened the door a lil and kissed him. He laid down so I closed the door again he started crying so I talked to him thru the door for about 10 minutes till the box was full. I open the door and there he is in the hallway clothes strung all arond and poop in the middle? Yesterday it was my playing cards when I went to get dinner? I am going to try n buy a crate to help train him but there like a hundred bucks and I dont get paid till Friday.

I tried putting him in the bathroom with his blanket a toy n water when I go out but he found a way to open the cabnits (there magnetic)under the sink and chewed into the bottles. Yesterday he chewed thru a bottle of peroxide and threw up? Go figure. Man I been cleanin poop n puke since I got him!

I sound like a horriable owner and its killing me. I only want whats best for him but hes one step ahead of me it seems.

On the dog fight subject I couldn't get the address cause it was way out and there were no street signs but I did get there names and I know how to get there. Supposedly there holding it eighter Wensday night or Friday night. I have already called SPCA and they took the info but said they couldnt do anything yet. I plan to be there when and if it happens with a picture phone in my hand.

Where can I go to have him interact with other dogs? We went on a 70 mile round trip today and hes great in the car, friendly to people and great with cats but other dogs hes a lil excited and barks like crazy, is this normal?

I remember that you all said after getting sick Pits can get clingy but shadow isnt the word, he wont be alone for the life of him?

Thanks!~

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Blessed Be, Unseen & Pimp~devo

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bullylove1
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posted 03-02-2004 01:24 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullylove1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Unseen!!
Go to this address www.k9u.com It is a virtual class with tons of topics. one of the topics is seperation anxiety. they have an awesome files section and instructors that are online. If afte reading the files section just type in a question and they will get to you as soon as they can. They are quite busy. Include all info of your pup age,sex, health, breed, anything and everything to give them as much info as possible. my doggie had horrible seperation anxiety. When we first got her my boyfriend was working from home so she had someone with her all the time, and once he started leaving fo rwork, she got really bad. It took a LOT of patience, and work but is well worth it. I am not sure when you got your pup but it could be she was taken from the litter too soon and that's why she's so needy, plus the illness. I am glad to hear she has gained weight, you have done a very good job on helping out this little one, don't give up now.
For introducing you puppy to another dog here are some suggestions:
If you have a friend with a NON-aggressive dog, I would suggest you start having play dates with them. Introduce them on neutral territory. NOt at your house, as your little guy may get over protective. Either at your friends house, or a park. Bring yummy treats as praise for your dog. This way you are letting your dog know that be interacting nicely with other dogs, he will get better than ever treats letting him know good things happen to him when he is around doggies not bad stuff! (I use boiled chicken cut into pea sized bites when I am training). Also, I would buy a harness for your dog. This worked wonders for me. Dogs sense their owners tension on walks so if you are walking him and you are holding the leash really tight, your dog is going to feel that and be nervous on his walk (why he may bark at other dogs/growls etc.) I have an awesome article on training your dog on a leash If you give me your email address I would happily send it to you and some other great files as well. Also, your dog need to be socialized in different places ALL the time so nothing is really "new" to him. Yo have already gotten off on the right foot by lots of car rides. Bring him with you as much as you can. I know you said you are low on funds, but call your local shelter, sometimes they do puppy obedience classes for free. Introduce other dogs to him on a sidewalk, field, park, with kids around, your yard (not at first), others houses, EVERYWHERE. This is crucial to your dogs life. My dog was never socialized at all when we adopted her. Not to people,not to dogs. Let me give you insight as to how we have to do thingsnow:
Walks are done twice daily VERY early morning so there's very little chance of another dog being out, and VERy late at night for the same reason. All off leash runs have to be done in a closed of (fenced) field where there are no other dogs whatsoever. One look and she is gone. Fear on leash (we are doing a GREAT job or adjusting to it now)was so bad that on walks she was crying and shaking and barking at thin air because she was not used to being outside her fenced yard and house. Consequences now? She feels everyTHING is out to get her. Can you imagine living in constant fear?
You definetly do not want your dog to live like this. And your pup is stil soo young, this behaviour CAN be reversed. YAYYYY!
I would definetly recommend that k9u site. They also have a group for dog-dog aggression which give you awesome tips aswell.
Sorry for all the rambling here, I am just soo happy and proud of you for all the help you want to give your puppy. I swear by that online group and would probably have given up a long time ago if it hadn't been for the instructors and people on there.
Email me and I will attach some really helpful files for you.
Leslie
Good luck!!

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