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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 08:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
hi
im nelson
i owne the site http://lil.amstaff.free.fr/

since lots of people talk about pitbulls and their attacks without lookingg at lots of aspects...some day i will post about it
but for now i show you what pitbull endure in some peoples hands

some images are hard
http://www.moloss.com/brd/ab/b017/impfacts.html
http://www.moloss.com/brd/il/i002/history.html
http://www.moloss.com/brd/eh/g005/history.html

all these dogs are man tools.....
the result is this
http://www.pet-abuse.com/database/s...p;search=search
http://www.pet-abuse.com/database/s...p;search=search
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/badowners.html
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/badowners2.html
http://www.pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull/sadreality.html
http://pitbullsontheweb.com/petbull...arch2003-04.jpg

guess this is enough to share my poit of view

adding that people or dogs are victims of other people,
lets talk about all facts like temper, home atmosphere, owners temper and teachings, situation of atacks, understanding what caused the atack,and more...
to really talk about dog,pitbull or attacks,
banning one breed because one idiot made stupid action with terrible consequences, is not correct, legalizes discrimation, kills innocent dogs because of breed, creates panic and phobies, misjudges the case, makes owners and there dogs lifes very bad,etc.............................................................................................
and it wont make clear hows fault is it and creates messures that will kill dogs but not get back at the people responsable for it... ignoring them because law got their dogs..........
im doing one text discribing further all my toughts about pitbulls, dogs and sociaty that i will share with you when finished.
its time to say no to bans

nelson http://lil.amstaff.free.fr/

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benny boy
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posted 03-02-2004 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
hey are you the guy thats making that video? i really like what you are trying to do! you are a very committed and dedicated person. this breed needs more people like yourself.

if you have a sensitive stomach you might not want to look at those links, they are pretty graphic....

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 08:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
hi
its me
i see the things getting worse even with bans so got do something, the problem is that im alone and no one takes me serious heheh
no problem i keep doing it, every time stronger, maybe one day we will change something

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nelson
http://lil.amstaff.free.fr/

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 08:30 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
actualy the topic is a message that i putted in a forum that have some pithatred so i was naughty and putted some graphic material to get deeper, they talk about how pitbulls are evil so i showed them who's evil.
sorry if i shock people here

nelson

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bullylove1
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posted 03-02-2004 08:52 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullylove1     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nelson,
You are a very compassionate person. I love the video you are making. When you are done, you should try to get ahold of some local media to see if they will play the film on the news or do a story on bully breeds. All positive aspects of course! Your pups and her friends are beautiful!
Leslie

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Lets not blame the dogs for a trait bred into them by the evilness of man. Lets understand them instead, so we can provide responsible ownership and give them a chance to show the world why they are so deserving of our love.

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 08:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
hi
ok
its time to do something

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True_Pits
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posted 03-02-2004 01:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I like the point your trying to get acrossed, but some of it I don't understand. The Bully Kutta is a totally different breed than the APBT and the mastiff is very different.
Abuse is sad and it seems out breed is most often the target of neglect and abuse. This is one reason to stop BYBs who don't monitor where their dogs end up. Its not the dogs fault, but many dogs who do bite are not the products of abuse. They have poor temperaments usually being from BYBs or have never had any training at all. They believe they are ruler of all. If you read the post about "2 Killer Pit Bulls" dogs like those can become nippy. I used to think it was just a small dog thing for dogs to snap and nip, until I met two beautiful Pit Bulls who are always growling and sometimes biting their owners when they do something unpleasing, reason being they have been pampered, spoiled and raised like most small dogs. Almost all small dog owners I have met believe their dogs can do no wrong, its the same thing with this owner of the Pit I know. They have had other mixed breed, one had to be put down for turning on the owner. Raised in the same "loving, spoiling" environment. Make a mistake and the dog will correct them.

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 02:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
little to little i try to show lots of info, i tried to show that its not only apbt used to fight, it could be 1 or 20 breeds used to fight but it will always be mans choice to do it, not the dogs or breeds.
owner has to be the alpha, always

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 03:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
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[This message has been edited by lil bull (edited 03-02-2004).]

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True_Pits
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posted 03-02-2004 03:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
But fighting dogs are super friendly. I took as trying to show that dog attacks are not the fault of a breed. But of the neglegence and fault of the owner. Even if this means BYBs because some people do the right thing but still end up with a man eater. The breed bans don't solve anything, some are not even enforced and there are many other breeds out there to ruin and destroy. And with all the media hype like mentioned it creates phobias, people shudder at the word Pit Bull.

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lil bull
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posted 03-02-2004 04:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
what does it means BYBs?
thanks

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benny boy
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posted 03-03-2004 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
hey lil bull----byb means back yard breeder, that is someone who is an unprofessional breeder. they over breed, over sell, do not screen for diseases, mix breed, they hurt all breeds of dogs in lots of ways. if they were stopped the quality of dogs produced would increase. and i believe it would help the pits reputation--

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lil bull
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posted 03-03-2004 10:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for lil bull     Edit/Delete Message
thanks
BYBs suck
they sell to everybody even people that shouldnt have any animal, and breeding agressive dogs too.........

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