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facedog Member  Posts: 21 |
posted 02-24-2004 07:27 PM
 
I guess Im just stupid or just havent been exposed or told what back yard breeding really is had dogs all my life and pits for 15 years or so and I have never bought a pit I just always had plenty of friends that really love their dogs. if you wanted a pup you just put your name in a hat for your pick only recently since I started looking on the net did I realize what papers meant papers mean that some people pay big bucks for registerd I had no Idea pits sold for that much cash I now see why crooks have wiggled their way into the dog scene I have always had really beautiful pits and if my face took this weekend will have some pups soon 3 are spoken for if you wanna see some pictures of face and doc all you have to do is ask Im just guessing she will have more than 3 IP: Logged |
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-24-2004 07:46 PM
First, try using periods. Second, if this whole papers and backyard breeding thing is completely new to you, you definately should not be breeding your dog. Please leave that up to people who know about these things. One last thing, the answer to your question is yes. [This message has been edited by elizavixen (edited 02-24-2004).] IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-24-2004 08:42 PM
The ""Internet"" my friend....the Internet did it. Most people didn't know much of anything until they hooked their butts up to the Internet. 7 years ago, you could count the pit bull *kennels* on your hand. Now there are 100s and 100s, literally. There were no BLUE kennels. You know, those ^rare^ blue, bluenose dogs? lol.. Back then, they were rare. Look how things have changed in just a very short time. Blue sure isn't rare anymore. I believe the APBT breed has the MOST kennels on the Internet than any other breed in the world. SAD. IP: Logged |
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kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:22 AM
oh dear lordy... you get what you pay for! god damn can i stress this enough. although thats not always the case most of the time it is. a paper doesnt mean its 'just registered'. it means alot more than that. i paid 900 dollars AUS for a cat, yes, 900 for a CAT. i dont regret it one bit. he came with papers. i can see on the papers that alot of them are or were shown. now you cant exactly show an animal with defects, can you? i can also trace on here, if i like, the names of catteries and breeders. 'crooks' and backyard breeders cant do this because they dont know squat about their animals family tree, not only that, theyd probably be embarassed to put the truth down. so i know for sure where my cat has come from and what chances he has of having a gentic fault. the breeder also sterilised the kitten for me and gave me food and a gigantic plastic tub as a litter tray. she also said to ring her if we come across problem or we want to show him. this lady has made a lifetime commitment to her cats and their kittens. i dont know any backyard breeder of any animal to do that. breed your dog without doing the necessary things and with no research and youll be adding to the unwanted animal problem. p.s who the hell puts names in a hat for who gets the dog? would you give a pup to a known animal abuser just because you picked their name out of a hat?? [This message has been edited by kyles101 (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 05:06 AM
I cant stress enough the problems that arise from breeding most people just think well we will put 2 dogs together and will get beautiful puppies but it does not work like that. All animals should be fully health checked also checks into the breed and family background for any health problems but saying that there is alot of breeders out there that will not say anything about genetic problems. facedog You say that you have had your dog mated and that if she has concieved taht she will have puppies soon are you prepared for problems that can srise during the pregnancy that can put your dog and unborn pups lives at risk? Do you know all of the nutritional requirements of the female during pregnancy, after the birth and the weaning of the puppies. Have your had your female hip scored eye tested Viganial tests and so on. I am sure that everyone else will agree with me with the above questions i have asked and theyw ill probably add some i have missed. Also putting names into a hat and then giving them a pup if there name comes out is irresponsible. Also just because the dogs mated does not mean she will have concieved even if she has there is no guarantees that the pregnancy will go full term can you afford treatment if something goes wrong or if she needs to have an emergancy c-section as some females from any breed just cannot free whelp and need the help from a vet due to a narrow or deforemed cervix. sorry to have gone on but as a breeder of german shepherds i think going into breeding blind is stupid and irresponsible. Mike. IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:12 AM
i think facedog was just talking about his close circle of friends putting names in a hat, not complete strangers. but yeah i know people who live out in the sticks that breed their dogs like that, dont really support it but oh well..... to elizavixen: IP: Logged |
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pitzerlover Member Posts: 28 |
posted 02-25-2004 09:26 AM
Thank you Benny. What is it Eliza, Kyles, and Charmed, Do you just lurk around here and wait for someone to ask questions so that you can be rude and berate them to make yourself feel better? He was just asking question, and I think that if he has had his pits for 15 years or so, that you could probably learn just as much from him as he can from you. The first thing that you need to learn is now to be nice, is this how you treat people face-to-face, or just when you can be chicken-sh1t about it on the "Internet"? Anyways, your right Chickee, blues certainly aren't rare, but the colors some people try to pass off as blue sure are. BTW, I love your dogs!!! IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:00 AM
Excuse me how was i being rude i was asking quite reasonable questions i was not being rude at all. When it comes to breeding i take it very seriously as there is way to many people out there just breeding to make money with no thought to the health of the b*tch so i am sorry if i came across as being rude but i was not. mike IP: Logged |
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facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:14 AM
thanks benny and pitzerlover for having a clue what i was getting at I dont use punctuation b/c i didnt know I was being graded and who are you to question my ability to raise dogs If you read everything on this site you would know that my grandpa has bred and raised walker hounds for 50 years some of them award winning dogs with a waiting list for stud service and dont think I didnt watch and ask about everything I was worming giving shots and teaching dogs to lead and show on benches while most my age played G.I. Joe and as far as money goes Ive got A brand new house A 2 story garage with an apartment upstairs for my pool table and card table a boat 2 vehicles and oh yeah a lake house thats paid for so obviously Im good at something so what are you good at besides find other peoples faults and as far as vet bills they consist of lab bills only for regular check all else is done by me I even get to accent the anal glands thats love what im saying is why deny good dogs to good homes over the fact that not every body has big bucks to give for a loving companion and if I dont need the money what would that make me if I wanted to get in the business I could be selling top of the line registered pits in no time money will get you anything so next time you doubt someones integrity you should maybe ask them a little about themselves instead of pissing them off at your shallow ignorance now that you know me please only give honest replys I take everything on this site serious as should everyone education and effort is all the APBT needs to once again be breed apart dont slow the process oh yeah and kyle my beagle could be registered but instead of paying 150 for a pet I gave 40 and all other mates are registered I dont advertise puppies for saleword of mouth only so if you wanna see sire's and dames get in the truck lets go for a ride so thank you all for helping and I always have questions and sometimes have answers my goal is to help and be helped not spend my time defending the way I run my life Thanks again God bless all IP: Logged |
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pitzerlover Member Posts: 28 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:31 AM
Face, I would love to see pics of your dogs. Here's one of one of my dogs. This is Lady. [This message has been edited by pitzerlover (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:36 AM
Hi facedog i was having a go at you or being nasty in anyway i was just asking questions which i thought was reasonable if you want to take it as me being nasty and ignorant then that is upto you. I dont judge people as its each to there own i can only give advice i dont come on here to upset people and i have helped alot of people on most things on all the forums as i have been brought up around animals i have vetrinary training and i have worked for an animal adoption centre so please dont take what i said the wrong way. Mike IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:38 AM
I totally understand the original poster as far as what he is used to. I don't know how old you all are, but unpapered dogs were and still ARE what the majority of dogs are, and what the majority of people own, and what the majority of people breed. Hopefully, people who have access to the Internet will learn more about their breed of choice and do good by them. Another thing that most people do not know about is BSL, which in most instances would never be known hardly at all by the general public if the information were not on the Internet. The Internet can be a great tool and it can cause great harm to this breed. We can only hope people will wise-up once they do know the facts on the true heritage of the APBT, buying, owning, breeding, and most importantly B.S.L. (Breed Specific Legislation). IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 12:25 PM
hey facedog could you shoot me an email i wanna see your dogs...i'm going to get another pit when i get a house. i want one now but i can't imagine coming homw to my apartment with 2 of the little guys running around all day. roxy already has an apetite for couches..... bstandridge@firstchoicelenders.com [This message has been edited by benny boy (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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mandy's pits Member Posts: 11 |
posted 02-25-2004 12:53 PM
I to would like to see your babies.. ga_girl_n_brunswick@yahoo.com IP: Logged |
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facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-25-2004 01:35 PM
Ive tried to look at pitzerlovers pictures and I get nothing it has me nuts help IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:09 PM
yeah i dont know whats up there something went wrong its never good when its the little red Xs IP: Logged |
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:11 PM
I had to edit my post because I forgot to answer his original question. And honestly, if you ask the question "Am I stupid?", you get what you ask for. And periods help. I feel that someone who cannot even type a coherent message shouldn't be breeding dogs. Eight year olds know how to use periods, or at least put commas for god's sake. And I don't lurk around here to be rude and berate people. I hardly ever reply to messages on this board. My post wasn't even rude if you read it. I think that everyone on this board just wants people to agree with them. If they don't, then they're rude. Just because he has had dogs for 15 yrs doesn't make him an expert. Especially if he knows absolutely nothing about papers, etc. I have had dogs 21 yrs and I am far from being an expert. But I know enough to know that I should not be breeding my dogs, even though they do have papers. And facedog, if you don't like people commenting about the way you run your life, don't post your life on a message board. IP: Logged |
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facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:29 PM
first of all people have been breeding dogs long before vet were around it doesnt take a genius to take car of an animal that you love my dogs probably get treated better than you strictly inside happy and healthy second of all I hate periods once a month is enough let alone at the end of each sentence what Im trying to tell you is me using aperiod so one out of a thousand people can read it its really simple you can breath even if there is not a period we dont want you to get dizzy and pass out last but not least Ive seen no good or any semi intelligent advise typed by you so do us both a favor and drop this I have said my PEACE so just please dont reply to anything I write and we will not have any more issues good day................................................................................................................................................................................. ....................................that should cover the periods just insert them where they go or whatever it takes to make you happy Good Day IP: Logged |
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:37 PM
And I'm the immature one? Yes there are lots of non-genius people out there breeding dogs. That is why the animal shelters are full and so many dogs are put to sleep every year. That is why there are so many breed specific health problems. I could go on and on about what happens when idiots breed dogs but I don't think it will make a difference as you seem to just want agreement, rather than opinion.
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:08 PM
to eliza[____]*MODERATOR EDIT*---what is your problem? you must be unhappy with your life because you seem like a really bitter person in your writing. what difference does it make if one chooses to use proper punctuation or not? does it confuse you if periods are not present? i mean facedog posted a question and you came across as rude and spiteful for really no reason at all. im from the country originally and there are plenty of people out there who know nothing of papers or really care and they dont ditch their dogs either. facedog was talking about breeding for friends hence the statement about putting names in a hat to decide which pick of the litter you get. quote: when you say things like this it makes you sound like you are lacking factual infromation to back up your arguement, not to mention shallow. and just because a sentence is lacking periods doesn't make it incoherent. are you going to tell me that i shouldnt start a sentence with a conjuction? and therefore am not intelligent enough to breed dogs? that's just not a logical arguement. quote:who said anything about being an expert? i said im sure that he knows plenty. is that what you were talking about? maybe if you read some of his posts on other threads you'll change you're mind a little. (i put that comma in you're to see if you would catch it  )quote:well thats good. im proud of you! what kind of dogs are those by the way? hey, you know this is a pit bull forum, right? and heres a little secret just because a dog has papers doesn't make it breed worthy. quote:so i take it you caught on?......good [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:14 PM
OK Its not like I mass produce dogs. 1 out of every 2 heats will I even attempt this. I was simply saying that Im not exactly sure what byb is, not that I supported it. I understand where you are coming from and suggestions are always welcome and It rattles me. It is this simple 1 litter of puppies a year is well within my mental and Physical ability. All that I want you to acknowledge, is that technically you did call me stupid and that if I can raise a 9 year old girl and keep up with her I think the rest is pretty easy. Im through bickering with you Im a good daddy to all and if you seen my reply to unseens posting why would some one who did not take care of their own animals offer to help them pay the vet and to be real I dont use periods because that pinky is broken I tried on this one but its to slow sorry IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:29 PM
and i called that apostrophe a comma to see if you caught that? you really remind me of my forth grade teacher. she was an evil evil lady. [This message has been edited by benny boy (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:30 PM
i dont even know why shes on this forum, she has st. bernards....PIT BULL FORUM? comprende? IP: Logged |
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facedog Member Posts: 21 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:37 PM
I think she needs to find her own forum then one where every body uses periods Im aware that Im not perfect and I have my faults yet I dont even notice when someone makes a mistake that is not why im here at all thank for everthing bennyboy you are true to the breed IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-25-2004 03:54 PM
*****MODERATOR EDIT***** [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 02-25-2004).] IP: Logged |
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-25-2004 05:43 PM
elizabitchin - I like that. And I know what breed of dog I have. But whether you like it or not, pit bulls are just regular dogs. So the same issues that arise with pit bulls arise with other dogs as well so sometimes I check here to see if there are any interesting posts. Comprende? And I wasn't making that big of a deal about the punctuation. it is just really hard to read when all your sentences run together and you can't tell when one sentence starts and the other ends and there just seems to be nonsense after nonsense and nothing seems to tie together and you don't know what the heck the person is talking about and whether this word goes with that sentence or the next one or what and you just sit there wondering is that the question or is that the question thinking man that is really freaking annoying why can't someone just take the millisecond it takes to put in a freaking period in a freaking sentence it is common curteousy and i think i spelled that wrong but not like anyone here would notice the difference because people here can't write well!!! Anyways, my point is this, and I will try to say it as nice as possible since there are so many crybabys and sensitive people on this board. Breeding a dog is a big deal. It should not be done casually because some friends want a dog. Go to any animal shelter and you will find lots of pits, that is unless that particular animal shelter puts pits down because there are so many of them because so many people have friends who want a dog so they just breed them once every 2 heat cycles and then these dogs multiply and soon you have lots of unnecessary pits in the shelters or on the streets or being abused and used for fighting. And I never said that just because a dog has papers makes them breed worthy. Please actually read my posts. I do think that if you are breeding dogs they should have papers because if you want a mutt, go to the shelter. Rescue one. Why don't you tell your friends that? And yes I am just so rude and mean to people because it makes me feel better. I have no life..........just like you two since both of you have posted a lot more and been a lot meaner than me! Funny how that works huh? IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 02-25-2004 06:18 PM
*******Lets take it easy now people. Elizavixen has every right to post here as anyone else. And please, lets watch our language. As a reminder to those new here as well as old members - abusive posts and inappropriate language is not tolerated here. Posts with such content WILL be removed. If one wants people to understand their posts and questions PROPERLY then proper punctuation is helpful, doesn't have to be perfect but legible is preferred. Save someone misreading a post and taking it the wrong way. Please be clear, its much easier on everyone. THANKS MODERATOR IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 06:21 PM
OK guys this is getting out of hand everyone is allowed his or her opinion so please stop the name calling. The forums are for everyone to help give advice and voice there opinions. Yes this is a pitbull forum i breed shepherds but i also give advice on this forum and all the others. Breeding any dog is same with the same problems and the same risks. So can everyone please just get along there is no need for nastiness or bitchiness as we have all been told if we can not take critisim or advice then we should no post. I am sure one of the moderators will put a stop to this aswell as they dont like this sort of behaviour. Mike IP: Logged |
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kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-26-2004 03:02 AM
although id say this thread is old news now, id like to know why my post was apparenlty abusive and rude pitzer? did you find it abusive because i put points down as to why papers can be important? or was it abusive because i advised facedog to do his research and the necessary things before breeding his dogs willy nilly? i dont believe i said one obscentiy, maybe someone has been proven wrong and is a little embarassed perhaps? if you cant take our constructive criticism then maybe you just shouldnt look. IP: Logged |
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pitzerlover Member Posts: 28 |
posted 02-26-2004 08:54 AM
Kyles, You cannot possibly think that just because you paid alot of money for a CAT that it is worth something. Wait, but since you ordered the pedigree and the great uncle to your cat was a CH then it's worth it. VERY few offspring turn out to be a chip off the block. And how can you say that you have not been slingin obsenities? The first two sentences are nothung but. You got ten kinds of pissed off because some people don't think the way that you do. There are many beautiful animals that do not have papers. And I was not taking anything out on you because I was embarressed. I have very few posts on this board and none of them (until now) was rude in any form or fashion. What would I be embarassed? I don't know of anything that I asked or stated to be embarassed about. I think your just mad because you just realized that you paid 800 dollars for a cat. BTW, how could YOU possibly criticize ME?? For those of you that I can tolerate, here is a picture of my ADBA REGISTERED Lady Link: http://www.picturetrail.com/gallery/view?p=999&gid=3738826&uid=1935527 [This message has been edited by pitzerlover (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-26-2004 10:14 AM
Nice! IP: Logged |
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puggleowner Member Posts: 228 |
posted 02-26-2004 12:13 PM
I know this post is probably past dated, but I just want to say kudos to Kyles, Eliza and Charmed--I agree with all three completely- Eliza may come off as a little blunt sometimes but I think her information here is definately needed- Facedog, it is just my personal opinion that someone who cannot even use periods in their sentences likely does not have the knowledge to breed any type of dog, much less pits who often need special socialization and attention. Further, anyone who thinks drawing names out of hat is a valid way to obtain a puppy IS STUPID- and I don't care what anyone else has to say about that, it is my opinion and I am entitled to it. You asked the question, and you recieved an answer. Please leave the breeding to the professionals. And to the posters who seemed more interested in insulting other users than focusing on the reason this message board exists- for the welfare of dogs- grow up. [This message has been edited by puggleowner (edited 02-26-2004).] IP: Logged |
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benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-26-2004 02:01 PM
okay i'm sorry that i lost my temper and said some things that i probably shouldnt have PERIOD but i really dont get why some people compare punctuation marks to ones knowledge of breeding dogs, that just doesn't add up to me PERIOD so if someone has a learning disability and has trouble putting their thoughts down on paper[example] does that mean that they are incapable of having a vast array of knowledge in other areas? and why is it "stupid" to draw names to see which pick of the litter you get? it's just a different way of doing it PERIOD sweet little elizavixon was the one who was rude first PERIOD her first post offered no CONSTRUCTIVE critizism(sp?) PERIOD so im sorry if i made some of you mad, but i dont feel that someone should be attacked and insulted for something as silly as punctuation PERIOD that was the only problem that i had PERIOD IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-26-2004 02:09 PM
Benny_boy can you please calm down this is just making matters worse from what i can see this discussion is over. He asked a question and got replies everyone is entitled to there own opinion, If people can not handle the critisim then there is no need to ask a question. This discussion has got way out of hand and just because elivixen mentioned about punctuation does not give you the right to be stupid and childish and after so many words put Period now can we please leave this discussion alone i will be asking for this topic to be removed as its just stupid they way you keep arguing your point across everyone has there own views on things if everyone agreed the world would be a mess MY OPINION. Mike IP: Logged |
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jamie Member Posts: 29 |
posted 02-26-2004 02:19 PM
my spelling and punctuaion are both bad does that mean i shouldnt own a dog. maby i shouldnt of had a child or even leave the house ever incase of an accident. people come to this sight to learn about dogs not to learn punctuation. notice that the people who know there dogs like for example true pits and my pet therapy dog dont even bother replying when people start getting pathetic grow up. IP: Logged |
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Angie Member Posts: 171 |
posted 02-26-2004 03:28 PM
LOL!!! You guys are so funny! IP: Logged |
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kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-26-2004 07:06 PM
still dont see how my post was rude pitzer? im not claiming my cat is better than everything else. im saying i can tell what chances he will have of having a fault. you are failing to see the point, big time. the point being, papers are more than a money making gimmick. there IS a use for them. and how can saying 'you get what you pay for' be rude? and my beautiful cat is worth every cent i paid for him, along with all the rest of my animals. including my akita who i paid CHEAP for and i got a CHEAP defective dog who cost me big bucks in the end. been there, done that, dont want my advice? fine. just thinking about the dogs you know, instead of making up silly 'you paid 900 for a cat ha ha' lines. i find trying to direct the conversation in a different direction by making a completely idiotic suggestion that 'im just mad' is quite dumb. make some valid points and we might just listen. heres a pic of my supposedly worthless cat, owned by an owner whos mad mad mad.
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-26-2004 09:24 PM
I must say, I am not a 'cat person', but, That is a beautiful cat! ------------------ IP: Logged |
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Deus Member Posts: 136 |
posted 02-27-2004 04:35 AM
Its also HUGE look at the paws on that thing LOL IP: Logged |
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kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-27-2004 05:35 AM
hes a maine coon. hes not even 6 months and hes bigger than my adult cat! crazy huh! IP: Logged |
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pitzerlover Member Posts: 28 |
posted 02-27-2004 08:53 AM
Kyles, I'm sorry if I got a little overheated. I ended up acting like the people that I can't stand to see on here. What I am trying to say is that there are many many people who have had their dogs ( and bred them ) for many many years that have never had papers. I think Chickee put it correctly. I know that everyone has their own opinion (I'm certainly always voicing mine, and many situations) but I think that so many people like to jump down each others throat over an honest question that just needs a reply. There are many dogs that do not have papers that are in very good shape, and vice versa. However, papers ( at least where I am ) are very easy to come by. If you look at my thread about "New Breed?", I was at a "breeders" home last weekend, and his dogs were papered, but they aren't pure, and they definately had defects. So to say that you get what you pay for in terms of my location, is not always correct. There are too many "breeders" that have gotten their hands on a set of papers and registered their own dogs as such. So yes, you could get a pedigree, hunt down all the owners, find out about genetics and health problems, and hope that your dog really came from that line, but there's always a chance that your wasting your time. However, there are many people that I know, men in their 40's and 50's, that have had the dogs since they were children, their dads had the dogs, and they have the same blood from way back then, and these men know where their dogs came from. If it is different where you live, kudos to the honest people in your area. But society today is too dishonest to believe everything that you read. IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-27-2004 11:51 AM
Kyles he is one beautifull kitty and you have done a great job raising him and his colouring is lovely and i am not a cat person but he is adorable mike IP: Logged |
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daddyfs Member Posts: 86 |
posted 02-27-2004 11:59 AM
now everyone is apologizin.. lol people come on this board to get help.. so you shouldnt blast them for that.. benny dont apologize.. eliza shouldnt have came off that way IP: Logged |
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-27-2004 12:09 PM
There were a lot of other posters who shouldn't have come off that way. Don't single me out. Try reading some of the other posts. IP: Logged |
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True_Pits Member Posts: 373 |
posted 02-29-2004 10:46 AM
I think face was just being honest. They seriously have not heard of BYBs. MOST people have not. Just asking an ordinary pet owner or neighbor and they won't know what a BYB is or that there is a difference between breeders. That is why education of the public is needed, of both buyers and breeders. They don't realize they are contributing to a problem or that there is a better way of doing things. You can't fault them for not knowing. They were being honest, they are not famaliar with what a BYB breeder is. Most BYB and pet owners don't know. Educate others. Facedog said once every 2 heats they attempt to breed, thats overbreeding!! Most bitches come in 2 times a year so thats 1 litter a year!!!! Your not stupid just uninformed. [This message has been edited by True_Pits (edited 02-29-2004).] IP: Logged |
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Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 03-01-2004 09:13 AM
Not everyone is a Genious as most here seem to think everyone should be. During the orientation to the families of my puppies, they would say, I'm checking out some other puppies. I'd ask them what breeder and their like, HuH? Just some one with puppies. That should tell you right there, NOT EVERYONE KNOWS ABOUT THE PROBLEMS OF A BYB!!! I explain to them, and their astonished. Lets not critisize, but try and fix the problem. If someone wants to know what it is...TELL THEM. What does it hurt to inform the public of the problem? THe only thing it could do IMO is help stop the problem. Yes what Face is doing, isn't right, but now he knows the dangers of it, and consequences (sp???) and hopefully will take some of the constructive advice given here, and fix his problem. And another thing Just IMO.... NOt everyone here speaks nor writes English fluently. I know I would have a problem wording and punctuating in spanish, and I can speak a good bit of it. French, German or anything! If you can't read it or don't understand it, simply don't reply!
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elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 03-01-2004 11:13 AM
I thought this topic was closed, or at least it should have been but since people keep making reference to me I will keep replying. I was not making a big deal about the punctuation. I just found his post very difficult to read so I made a SUGGESTION. People here just like to latch on to one small thing and beat it to death, disregarding the message of the entire post. I don't expect everyone to be geniuses. Someone who breeds their dog every 2 heat cycles should know about papers and BYB. If they don't, that is just plain ignorance. IP: Logged |
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chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 03-01-2004 04:24 PM
Well ok, bad puctuation is a pet-peeve of mine when it is REALLY, REALLY bad. Whether or not a person is from a different country or not, if they are typing english in a post, then they also know about periods, commas and question marks. (That excuse flew out the window with me.) Is it safe to say that every language has their periods???? And I would imagine they would be in the same spot, right? People DO need to make the effort when addressing the public. It really is hard to read. By the way, I'm not getting on any one person. Just thought I'd put my 2c in. [This message has been edited by chickee (edited 03-01-2004).] IP: Logged |
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