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MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-12-2004 06:06 PM
http://community-2.webtv.net/PRECIOUSFORD/IngridNewkirkPETA/ Here is Peta's views on Pitbulls!!! From the Prez herself. IP: Logged |
kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-12-2004 06:58 PM
peta ***** me to tears. they are way over the top to start with. i know vegetarians/vegans who are very animal lib and even they refuse to support peta for the same reason i mentioned above. ***Moderator edit: [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 02-15-2004).] IP: Logged |
benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-13-2004 07:28 AM
i hate those peta freaks, they're a bunch of hypocrytical ******. i wonder how many stupid people believe what that moron wrote...
[This message has been edited by Jas (edited 02-15-2004).] IP: Logged |
bullylove1 Member Posts: 173 |
posted 02-13-2004 08:27 AM
I completely agree with you. I HATE Peta and everything it stands for. Here are some things I found about Peta, I couldn't believe it! It sickens me that soo many celeberaties are spokes people for them, they don't ever have a clue!! Here's what I found, its on www.gopetiton.com and its a petition to try to stop PETA: For those who DON'T know: PETA is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the largest animal rights group around. The problems that have been plaguing the world by the Animal Rights movement is constantly hurt more by this organization and people unwilling to see the lies, and the support of terrorists groups, phony organizations, and even committing violent acts. PETA has been accused several times of supporting terrorism in the name of their political agenda. PETA has denied this, but PETA’s IRS 990 forms show that PETA donated to the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front, the largest domestic terrorist groups in the U.S, which has confessed of committing over $10,000,000 worth of damage to buildings, defacing property, even mailing death threats, to spread its political agenda. PETA’s donations are as following: $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front in 2001, $45,200 to Rodney Coronado, who was convicted of burning down a research lab. Another $25,000 in an un-returnable loan went to his father the previous year, $2,000 to David Wilson convicted of firebombing a bird co-op, $5,000 to Josh Harper, convicted of assaulting police, a firing at a fishing boat, and $ 1,500 to Fran Trutt convicted of attempting murder of a medical Doctor. Yes, attempted murder. Even though PETA tries to cover up/deny any of these donations, the lies show right through. Now their tax-exempt status is at risk because of these donations. This organization is also responsible for pulling off publicity stunts, such as the shocking “Got Beer?!” campaign, which is supposed to make people believe that beer is better than milk. Another example of their extreme campaign was the billboard in Europe that claims that feeding children meat is child abuse. PETA’s head cheese, Ingrid Newkirk, Vegan coordinator Bruce Friedrich, and other top PETA members have said things that make you wonder what planet they are from, and clearly shows their hatred towards other humans, and support for terrorist actions in the name of Animal Rights. For example; · "Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing, someone makes a threat, and it works." - Ingrid Newkirk. · "I openly hope that it comes here." - Ingrid Newkirk referring to mad cow disease. · "We're looking for good lawsuits that will establish the interests of animals as a legitimate area of concern in law." - Ingrid Newkirk
· "Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but 6 billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses." - Ingrid Newkirk · "To those people who say, 'My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say, 'Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live ... " - Bill Maher, PETA celebrity spokesman · "If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows… I think it's a great way to bring about animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows. ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do It."
Can you believe this!! IP: Logged |
cricket Member Posts: 51 |
posted 02-13-2004 12:14 PM
S**t like that burns me up inside, she obviously has no knowledge of the breed, and has absolutely no Idea what she is talking about. She should be put to sleep if you ask me! IP: Logged |
benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 02-13-2004 01:11 PM
can't wait till they rally in texas me and my 30.06 are gonna go watch IP: Logged |
elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-14-2004 03:54 PM
I think you all are misreading that article. She is not against pits, she is against how they are misused/abused. An abused pit is a very dangerous thing. I do not agree that all pits should be banned. I do think that there should be some sort of regulation about who can own a pit, why they want a pit and where are they going to keep it. I know that at least where I live, SC, there is a major pit problem. The majority of people here who own pits do not own them for the right reasons. They are used as fighting dogs and as status symbols. They are not adequately trained or cared for. Just in the last year, there have been two deaths due to pit bull attacks in my county alone. You also should not jump to conclusions about all PETA members. I read in this forum everyone complaining about people stereotyping the breed, and then you go and take a few quotes from a few people at PETA and say that the whole bunch are hypocritical a$$holes. ? That to me is hypocritical. For the record, no I am not a member of PETA but I know some people who are. For the most part, they are good people fighting for a good cause but there are some zealots who get carried away. You cannot dismiss the entire organization because of a few bad apples; as you cannot dismiss the entire pitbull breed for the same reason. IP: Logged |
chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-14-2004 06:20 PM
PETA is fanatical. Either you are with PETA or you are not. Either you are for Animal Rights (PETA & ALF) OR Animal Welfare. There is no inbetween. For all animal owners, whether pit bull or collie, cat or parakeet, PETA is your enemy. Which must include their members. THERE IS NO INBETWEEN! I do not say this because I own pit bulls, I say this because I am an animal lover who wants to KEEP it that way. Animal owners all over, (who know what's going on, that is) think the same way! It is not a pit bull thing. [This message has been edited by chickee (edited 02-14-2004).] IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-15-2004 05:33 AM
I say that we all have a "PitBull Parade". We can have our dogs dressed up wearing fur coats. That pretty much sums up what they stand for!!! IP: Logged |
elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-15-2004 08:19 AM
Do you really think you are helping your cause by making statements like that? All you are doing is proving you are as ignorant as you claim everyone else is. IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-15-2004 08:51 AM
You want to know what I think about this topic? "Excuse me but, I find Ingred Newkirk & her PETA org. acts quite "Holier-than-thou"...Pit Bulls are one of God's Creatures! Not for Ms. Newkirk to malign & destroy!" ~~~~~~~ DITTO Furthermore, many people view her thoughts as just that HER THOUGHTS!! Just like my thoughts are my thoughts and yours are yours. Personally, I stand for animal welfare. I don't think throwing paint and getting arrested is the correct and mature way to GET THE POINT ACROSS DO YOU????????????? In my state, I am on a coalition to help stop pit bull abuse. People for BSL are not helping the breed whatsoever. Too bad some PETA members did not think the same way. Maybe people would be more open to their opinions. Susan IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 02-15-2004 09:11 AM
Notice below what they say about pit bulls. Is that a generalization or what?? Forwarded:
In case you doubt that PETA really and truly believes there should be *no* Dear Ms. M________, Thanks for your e-mail to PETA. We are opposed to breeding because of the In light of these tragic statistics, no breeding can be considered Purebred breeding in particular has caused a wide range of health defects in And of course, while breeders custom-design millions of dogs each year, Certain dogs bred originally for fighting, like the "pit bull" breeds, can The animals themselves are not to blame. Whether they are intended to guard The only way to prevent and end this tragedy is to stop intentionally We do of course encourage people with the time, money, love, and patience to =================================== Please do visit the PETA sites, especially http://www.helpinganimals.com/i-nobirth.html "Provide information on spaying and neutering and ask animal guardians when And before you leave, take a look at the flyer PETA volunteers distributed Animal rights organizations are financed by donations from people who think If you're interested in learning about and helping fight legislation that Sharyn & Walt Hutchens IP: Logged |
elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-15-2004 09:15 AM
Against my better judgment I am going to reply to this. First, Ingrid Newkirk does not want to malign and destroy pitbulls. So get your facts straight. She wants to stop the abuse of them.
quote: No, actually I don't think it really helps. However, I also don't think screaming and stereotyping an entire organization is the correct and mature way to get your point across either. Let me also say this, you obviously love pitbulls. I think that is great but with loving the breed you also have to accept some of the problems that are associated with them. Pitbulls, in my opinion, are probably the most abused dog in the country. And unfortunately, once they have been abused, there is little that you can do with them. After the abuse, they become unpredictable. You cannot adopt out an unpredictable dog. So what exactly do you want to do with them? Sure there are some people who are experienced enough to work with one and help them, but the number of people who are qualified and willing to do this is a lot less than the number of pits in shelters and on the streets. And you imagined correctly, being a vegetarian, I did agree with that advertisement. The Holocaust ad was my favorite however. Lastly, as I have already stated, you cannot generalize one PETA member for all PETA members. They are not all like that. They are just the ones you see on TV. Just like the majority of pitbulls you hear about are the ones that have attacked someone. So, using your logic, shouldn't they all be banned? IP: Logged |
chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-15-2004 10:18 AM
Lastly, as I have already stated, you cannot generalize one PETA member for all PETA members. They are not all like that. They are just the ones you see on TV. Just like the majority of pitbulls you hear about are the ones that have attacked someone. So, using your logic, shouldn't they all be banned? YOU JUST DON'T GET IT LADY. You have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about! Do your research and if you come back agreeing with Animal Rights, there is something really wrong. IP: Logged |
chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-15-2004 10:36 AM
http://www.peta.com/ & http://www.animalliberationfront.com/ (You really need to check out the entire site of the ALF - PETA's buddies in crime.) http://users.erols.com/mandtj/welfare/welfare.html http://www.naiaonline.org/body/articles/archives/animalright.htm http://www.animalwelfarecouncil.org/html/aw/rights.php http://www.anti-peta.com/ http://www.activistcash.com/ http://www.consumerfreedom.com/ http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/cliches/animalrights.html http://www.animalscam.com/ http://www.sover.net/~lsudlow/ARvsAW.htm http://www.americananimalwelfare.com/rights.html All you have to do get a TON more info on either one of these groups is do a search on google.com using "animal rights vs animal welfare" as the search words. [This message has been edited by chickee (edited 02-15-2004).] IP: Logged |
elizavixen Member Posts: 160 |
posted 02-15-2004 10:59 AM
There is an in between. I am in the in between. I agree with them on some issues and disagree with them on others. That is in between. I am going to discontinue this conversation because I realize you are very narrowminded about the issue and cannot bear to think that just maybe you might not be 100% correct about everything. Oh, please do try to prove the fool I am. I really would like to see your effort. IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-15-2004 11:05 AM
Chickee, Thanks for the links, I am sure they will be informative. I saved them to my favorite places. I shall try to read thru them this week. I will have lots of time on my hands~~~ The weather is frigid again in my part of the country!!! IP: Logged |
chickee Member Posts: 150 |
posted 02-15-2004 11:17 AM
I have given just a SMALL portion of links that give info on both sides. There is your research handed over to you. There is no inbetween. You ARE an Animal Rights supporter! IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 02-15-2004 02:32 PM
Here are her words "Those who argue against the euthanasia policy for pit bull dogs are naive. One dog that had just been adopted by a family suddenly clamped his jaw onto the thigh of a 7-year-old boy. Two grown men had a hard time getting the dog off and the child suffered permanent nerve damage. Tales like thisabound. I have scars on my leg and arm from my own encounter with a pit. Many are loving and will kiss on sight, but many are unpredictable. An unpredictable chihuahua is one thing, an unpredictable pit another." "People who genuinely care about dogs won't be affected by a ban on pits. They can go to the shelter and save one of the countless other breeds and lovable mutts sitting on death row through no fault of their own. We can only stop killing pits if we stop creating new ones. Legislators, please take NOTE." Oh, I must have misunderstood Ingrid's words? This seems like she loves them!!! OH yes, I now see~ She wants to help them!!! Well, hot damm what an approach she has!!! Why doesn't she target back yard breeders as her primary focus if she does not want to create new pitbulls???
Have you ever heard of an ATTS Temperament test??? Pitbulls rank extremely high!!! Here are some stats from my state for the year 2002. IP: Logged |
kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-16-2004 01:49 AM
i think petas meaning/interpretation of animal rights on their website is a bit of a laugh. talk about twisting it around to make it sound like sugary lollipops and candy canes. IP: Logged |
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