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MyPetTherapyDog
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posted 02-12-2004 06:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
http://community-2.webtv.net/PRECIOUSFORD/IngridNewkirkPETA/

Here is Peta's views on Pitbulls!!! From the Prez herself.

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posted 02-12-2004 06:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
peta ***** me to tears. they are way over the top to start with. i know vegetarians/vegans who are very animal lib and even they refuse to support peta for the same reason i mentioned above.

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posted 02-13-2004 07:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
i hate those peta freaks, they're a bunch of hypocrytical ******. i wonder how many stupid people believe what that moron wrote...


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posted 02-13-2004 08:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullylove1     Edit/Delete Message
I completely agree with you. I HATE Peta and everything it stands for. Here are some things I found about Peta, I couldn't believe it! It sickens me that soo many celeberaties are spokes people for them, they don't ever have a clue!!
Here's what I found, its on www.gopetiton.com and its a petition to try to stop PETA:
For those who DON'T know: PETA is People for the Ethical Treatment of Animals, the largest animal rights group around. The problems that have been plaguing the world by the Animal Rights movement is constantly hurt more by this organization and people unwilling to see the lies, and the support of terrorists groups, phony organizations, and even committing violent acts.

PETA has been accused several times of supporting terrorism in the name of their political agenda. PETA has denied this, but PETA’s IRS 990 forms show that PETA donated to the Earth Liberation Front and the Animal Liberation Front, the largest domestic terrorist groups in the U.S, which has confessed of committing over $10,000,000 worth of damage to buildings, defacing property, even mailing death threats, to spread its political agenda. PETA’s donations are as following: $1,500 to the North American Earth Liberation Front in 2001, $45,200 to Rodney Coronado, who was convicted of burning down a research lab. Another $25,000 in an un-returnable loan went to his father the previous year, $2,000 to David Wilson convicted of firebombing a bird co-op, $5,000 to Josh Harper, convicted of assaulting police, a firing at a fishing boat, and $ 1,500 to Fran Trutt convicted of attempting murder of a medical Doctor. Yes, attempted murder.

Even though PETA tries to cover up/deny any of these donations, the lies show right through. Now their tax-exempt status is at risk because of these donations. This organization is also responsible for pulling off publicity stunts, such as the shocking “Got Beer?!” campaign, which is supposed to make people believe that beer is better than milk. Another example of their extreme campaign was the billboard in Europe that claims that feeding children meat is child abuse. PETA’s head cheese, Ingrid Newkirk, Vegan coordinator Bruce Friedrich, and other top PETA members have said things that make you wonder what planet they are from, and clearly shows their hatred towards other humans, and support for terrorist actions in the name of Animal Rights. For example;

· "Our nonviolent tactics are not as effective. We ask nicely for years and get nothing, someone makes a threat, and it works." - Ingrid Newkirk.

· "I openly hope that it comes here." - Ingrid Newkirk referring to mad cow disease.

· "We're looking for good lawsuits that will establish the interests of animals as a legitimate area of concern in law." - Ingrid Newkirk
- “If a girl gets sexual pleasure from riding a horse, does the horse suffer? If not, who cares? If you French kiss your dog and he or she thinks it's great, is it wrong? We believe all exploitation and abuse is wrong. If it isn't exploitation and abuse, it may not be wrong."
- "Arson, property destruction, burglary and theft are 'acceptable crimes' when used for the animal cause."
- “The cat, like the dog, must disappear... We should cut the domestic cat free from our dominance by neutering, neutering, and more neutering, until our pathetic version of the cat ceases to exist." - John Bryant, PETA


· " I find it small wonder that the laboratories aren't all burning to ground. If I had a more guts, I'd light a match." - Ingrid Newkirk, after an underground group mailed razor blade laced threats to medical researchers studying new drugs on primates.

· "Six million Jews died in concentration camps, but 6 billion broiler chickens will die this year in slaughterhouses." - Ingrid Newkirk

· "To those people who say, 'My father is alive because of animal experimentation,' I say, 'Yeah, well, good for you. This dog died so your father could live ... " - Bill Maher, PETA celebrity spokesman
-"Let us allow the dog to disappear from our brick and concrete jungles -- from our firesides, from the leather nooses and chains by which we enslave it." - John Bryant, PETA
· "The discomfort of a human does not outweigh the right of the animal to live . . ." - Carol Burnett, PeTA spokesperson

· "If we really believe that animals have the same right to be free from pain and suffering at our hands, then, of course we're going to be blowing things up and smashing windows… I think it's a great way to bring about animal liberation, considering the level of suffering, the atrocities. I think it would be great if all of the fast-food outlets, slaughterhouses, these laboratories, and the banks that fund them exploded tomorrow. I think it's perfectly appropriate for people to take bricks and toss them through the windows. ... Hallelujah to the people who are willing to do It."
— Bruce Friedrich, PETA's vegan campaign coordinator, at the "Animal Rights 2001" conference


It’s very disturbing to know that an organization like this could have so many heartening comments coming from their higher members. Bet you didn’t know that Ingrid Newkirk admitted on a CNN interview that they [PETA] deliberately editing out certain portions of the videotape done at BoysTown in order to make it appear that the kitten in the video was suffering, when it was really coming out of anesthesia. You know that PETA runs large anti-meat/dairy/fishing/animals in medical research campaigns, but did you know that they get their information from a group called the Physicians Committee for Responsible Medicine (AKA PCRM), which claims to be a group of “Doctors and laypersons working together for compassionate and effective medical practice, research, and health promotion.” Evidence from Activist Cash (http://www.activistcash.com/) shows that physicians make up only 5% of its membership, and that the group’s only physicians represent less than 0.5% of America’s doctors. They also want to abolish animal use in lifesaving research and try to promote (and extremely enforce) Veganism, going as far to suggest that meat, eggs, and dairy can be labeled as “Weapons of mass destruction”. This is completely ridiculous and false. PETA also claims to help the animals, which is hypnotically because according to a July 26, 2000, Associated Press story, out of the 2,103 animals that PETA "rescued" during 1999, a whopping 1,325 of them were euthanized because they couldn’t find homes and shelters for these animals. Considering PETA’s yearly income of over $10,000,000, don’t you think that they should have been able to build a few shelters? To add to their hypocrisy, PETA pledged after 9-11 not to do extreme campaigns, but recently cranked out the new “Terrorism at the Table” campaign, comparing turkey slaughter to terrorism, featuring a turkey holding up a supermarket urging them to go vegetarian. To add to the hypocrisy, PETA members have been seen eating meat/wearing leather and fur, and the celebrities supporting PETA in campaigns, have also supported what they were shown as against. To conclude, all we say is to think long and hard about this essay. You make the decisions, but your decision may affect the future, and whether PETA takes over and our freedoms and lifestyle become obsolete based on hearsay, and propaganda created to get some attention. The choice is yours. PETA, if you listen to us please stop the madness. You are hurting your cause, and your group. Stop the madness before it's too late.

Can you believe this!!
Take Care
Leslie

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cricket
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posted 02-13-2004 12:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
S**t like that burns me up inside, she obviously has no knowledge of the breed, and has absolutely no Idea what she is talking about. She should be put to sleep if you ask me!

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benny boy
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posted 02-13-2004 01:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
can't wait till they rally in texas me and my 30.06 are gonna go watch

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elizavixen
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posted 02-14-2004 03:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizavixen     Edit/Delete Message
I think you all are misreading that article. She is not against pits, she is against how they are misused/abused. An abused pit is a very dangerous thing.

I do not agree that all pits should be banned. I do think that there should be some sort of regulation about who can own a pit, why they want a pit and where are they going to keep it.

I know that at least where I live, SC, there is a major pit problem. The majority of people here who own pits do not own them for the right reasons. They are used as fighting dogs and as status symbols. They are not adequately trained or cared for. Just in the last year, there have been two deaths due to pit bull attacks in my county alone.

You also should not jump to conclusions about all PETA members. I read in this forum everyone complaining about people stereotyping the breed, and then you go and take a few quotes from a few people at PETA and say that the whole bunch are hypocritical a$$holes. ? That to me is hypocritical. For the record, no I am not a member of PETA but I know some people who are. For the most part, they are good people fighting for a good cause but there are some zealots who get carried away. You cannot dismiss the entire organization because of a few bad apples; as you cannot dismiss the entire pitbull breed for the same reason.

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posted 02-14-2004 06:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
PETA is fanatical. Either you are with PETA or you are not. Either you are for Animal Rights (PETA & ALF) OR Animal Welfare. There is no inbetween. For all animal owners, whether pit bull or collie, cat or parakeet, PETA is your enemy. Which must include their members. THERE IS NO INBETWEEN! I do not say this because I own pit bulls, I say this because I am an animal lover who wants to KEEP it that way. Animal owners all over, (who know what's going on, that is) think the same way! It is not a pit bull thing.

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MyPetTherapyDog
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posted 02-15-2004 05:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
I say that we all have a "PitBull Parade".

We can have our dogs dressed up wearing fur coats.
See how many wacko Peta members throw cans of paint at us and our dogs.

That pretty much sums up what they stand for!!!

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posted 02-15-2004 08:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizavixen     Edit/Delete Message
Do you really think you are helping your cause by making statements like that?

All you are doing is proving you are as ignorant as you claim everyone else is.

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posted 02-15-2004 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
You want to know what I think about this topic?

"Excuse me but, I find Ingred Newkirk & her PETA org. acts quite "Holier-than-thou"...Pit Bulls are one of God's Creatures! Not for Ms. Newkirk to malign & destroy!" ~~~~~~~ DITTO

Furthermore, many people view her thoughts as just that HER THOUGHTS!!

Just like my thoughts are my thoughts and yours are yours.

Personally, I stand for animal welfare.

I don't think throwing paint and getting arrested is the correct and mature way to GET THE POINT ACROSS DO YOU?????????????

In my state, I am on a coalition to help stop pit bull abuse.

People for BSL are not helping the breed whatsoever.
Banning Pitbulls is not the way to help them.
Instead people should start looking for ways to increase the penalties for animal abuse.
People should also start looking at different ways to promote the pitbulls i.e. pet therapy, pulling contests, sledding, agility, etc., etc., etc.
What about starting coalition groups in other states to promote
Workshops on the sheltering and placement of pit bulls? Funding for low-cost spaying and neutering of pit bulls? Distribution of public education materials at spring rabies clinics? Promotion of the HSUS standing reward for information leading to the arrest and conviction of those involved in illegal animal fighting?
That is what I STAND FOR!!!!!!!!!

Too bad some PETA members did not think the same way. Maybe people would be more open to their opinions.
Did you see the PETA billboard this past fall with the Virgin Mother holding a dead chicken? What do you think of that!!!!!!!
I would imagine you would promote it by the sounds of you.
Enough said on my end.

Susan

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Jas

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posted 02-15-2004 09:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
Notice below what they say about pit bulls. Is that a generalization or what??

Forwarded:


***Permission to forward, crosspost, and reproduce on billboards***

In case you doubt that PETA really and truly believes there should be *no*
breeding and that money contributed to them will be used to end the
ownership of pets, here's what they said when a whippet breeder wrote them
saying "if all breeding is ended there will be no more pets." PETA's answer
is dated 2/4/04, and is unedited.
====================

Dear Ms. M________,

Thanks for your e-mail to PETA. We are opposed to breeding because of the
current dog and cat overpopulation crisis. Approximately 2,500 kittens and
puppies are born each hour in the U.S., and because their numbers far exceed
the demand for them, millions of homeless cats and dogs suffer from
abandonment, abuse, starvation, disease, freezing, highway death, or
procurement for laboratories. Animal shelters receive about 27 million
animals annually. More than half-- about 17 million--must be destroyed for
lack of homes. Most are under 18 months of age, and 90 percent are healthy
and adoptable.

In light of these tragic statistics, no breeding can be considered
"responsible." Those who breed animals for profit and individuals who let
their dog or cat have "just one litter," however well-intentioned they may
be, are contributing to the severe dog and cat overpopulation crisis. Every
newborn puppy or kitten means one less home for a dog or cat desperately
waiting in a shelter or roaming the streets.

Purebred breeding in particular has caused a wide range of health defects in
dogs. For example, "flat-faced" dogs, like bulldogs and Boston terriers,
experience respiratory difficulties due to constricted breathing passages;
bloodhounds and Shar Peis are prone to skin infections from excessively
wrinkled skin; many other dogs endure epileptic seizures, hip dysplasia,
painful back problems--the list goes on--as a result of human manipulation.

And of course, while breeders custom-design millions of dogs each year,
millions of equally deserving dogs and cats languish in shelters. Quite
often even purebreds end up in shelters.

Certain dogs bred originally for fighting, like the "pit bull" breeds, can
have additional problems, having been bred by people for reasons that will
almost always spell tragedy for the dog. Pit bulls were originally bred to
fight chained bulls and bears. Today, they are frequently abused and used by
drug dealers to guard drugs and money, and in inner-city fighting rings
where they die horribly.

The animals themselves are not to blame. Whether they are intended to guard
junk yards, or to be used in dog fights, or simply for a person who is
looking for a vicious dog to boost his or her "machismo," the dog winds up
paying the price through neglect, outright and deliberate cruelty, or by
being punished (often fatally) for simply obeying his or her
instincts--instincts that have been warped by human interference.Sadly, it
is difficult to locate good homes for these dogs because few good homes are
willing to take dogs perceived as overly aggressive.

The only way to prevent and end this tragedy is to stop intentionally
creating animals who will never stand a chance of peacefully adapting to
society. Breed-specific legislation (with a "grandfather clause" for those
dogs already in existence) is an important step in the right direction.

We do of course encourage people with the time, money, love, and patience to
make a lifetime commitment to an animal to adopt from shelters or rescue
groups.
Please visit www.helpinganimals.com
<> for more information.
Thank you for writing. I hope this helps explain our position.
Sincerely,
Coleen Kearon
PETA Correspondent

===================================
Note their shelter and euthanasia figures. They say 27 million animals
enter shelters each year. Even the HSUS, which also has a great financial
interest in inflating these figures, only estimates 6-8 million dogs an cats
enter shelters each year. Does PETA really think there are 19-21 million
hamsters and iguanas going into shelters or could their figures be inflated
for effect? They say 17 million are euthanized every year. Really? The
HSUS estimate is only 3-4 million.

Please do visit the PETA sites, especially http://www.helpinganimals.com/i-nobirth.html
and note this suggestion about what to do about neighbors and co-workers
with unsterilized pets:

"Provide information on spaying and neutering and ask animal guardians when
they plan to have the surgery done. Be persistent. If they make excuses,
arrange to have the animals altered yourself."

And before you leave, take a look at the flyer PETA volunteers distributed
to children attending the Nutcracker during the 2003 holiday season. http://www.furisdead.com/momfur.html

Animal rights organizations are financed by donations from people who think
they are helping pets. What they are really doing is helping PETA insure
that there will *be* no pets in our future.

If you're interested in learning about and helping fight legislation that
will ultimately end with the animal rights ideal of a no-pet nation, join
the Pet-Law (hyphen, not underscore) email list -- http://groups.yahoo.com/group/pet-law/ or just send a blank email to
pet-law-subscribe@yahoogroups.com. This is a very high-traffic list --
members include the brightest and most articulate among pet owners,
breeders, rescuers and shelter/animal control professionals. It will take
some time and commitment, but joining us may well be the most important
animal-related decision you make this year.

Sharyn & Walt Hutchens
Timbreblue Whippets ~ http://timbreblue.com
Lexington, VA ~ Rescues sometimes
Dog Questions? http://timbreblue.com/petdogs-l

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posted 02-15-2004 09:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizavixen     Edit/Delete Message
Against my better judgment I am going to reply to this.

First, Ingrid Newkirk does not want to malign and destroy pitbulls. So get your facts straight. She wants to stop the abuse of them.

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I don't think throwing paint and getting arrested is the correct and mature way to GET THE POINT ACROSS DO YOU?????????????

No, actually I don't think it really helps. However, I also don't think screaming and stereotyping an entire organization is the correct and mature way to get your point across either.

Let me also say this, you obviously love pitbulls. I think that is great but with loving the breed you also have to accept some of the problems that are associated with them. Pitbulls, in my opinion, are probably the most abused dog in the country. And unfortunately, once they have been abused, there is little that you can do with them. After the abuse, they become unpredictable. You cannot adopt out an unpredictable dog. So what exactly do you want to do with them? Sure there are some people who are experienced enough to work with one and help them, but the number of people who are qualified and willing to do this is a lot less than the number of pits in shelters and on the streets.

And you imagined correctly, being a vegetarian, I did agree with that advertisement. The Holocaust ad was my favorite however.

Lastly, as I have already stated, you cannot generalize one PETA member for all PETA members. They are not all like that. They are just the ones you see on TV. Just like the majority of pitbulls you hear about are the ones that have attacked someone. So, using your logic, shouldn't they all be banned?

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posted 02-15-2004 10:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
Lastly, as I have already stated, you cannot generalize one PETA member for all PETA members. They are not all like that. They are just the ones you see on TV. Just like the majority of pitbulls you hear about are the ones that have attacked someone. So, using your logic, shouldn't they all be banned?

YOU JUST DON'T GET IT LADY. You have absolutely NO IDEA what you're talking about!
This isn't a pit bull thang, it is an 'animal issue' that may ultimately change the way things are. (I doubt it though. PETA is hanging themselves in public moreso now then ever before.) Like I said before, THERE IS NO INBETWEEN!
Do you know the difference between Animal Rights & Animal Welfare? Do you???? A person simply CANNOT be for both! Now, until you actually know what you are talking about, I truly suggest that you dis this conversation or I'm gonna have to prove the fool you are.

Do your research and if you come back agreeing with Animal Rights, there is something really wrong.

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posted 02-15-2004 10:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.peta.com/ & http://www.animalliberationfront.com/
(You really need to check out the entire site of the ALF - PETA's buddies in crime.)
http://users.erols.com/mandtj/welfare/welfare.html
http://www.naiaonline.org/body/articles/archives/animalright.htm
http://www.animalwelfarecouncil.org/html/aw/rights.php
http://www.anti-peta.com/
http://www.activistcash.com/
http://www.consumerfreedom.com/
http://www.angelfire.com/pa/sergeman/cliches/animalrights.html
http://www.animalscam.com/
http://www.sover.net/~lsudlow/ARvsAW.htm

http://www.americananimalwelfare.com/rights.html

All you have to do get a TON more info on either one of these groups is do a search on google.com using "animal rights vs animal welfare" as the search words.

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posted 02-15-2004 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for elizavixen     Edit/Delete Message
There is an in between. I am in the in between. I agree with them on some issues and disagree with them on others. That is in between.

I am going to discontinue this conversation because I realize you are very narrowminded about the issue and cannot bear to think that just maybe you might not be 100% correct about everything.

Oh, please do try to prove the fool I am. I really would like to see your effort.

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posted 02-15-2004 11:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
Chickee,
Thanks for the links, I am sure they will be informative. I saved them to my favorite places. I shall try to read thru them this week.
I will have lots of time on my hands~~~ The weather is frigid again in my part of the country!!!

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posted 02-15-2004 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
I have given just a SMALL portion of links that give info on both sides. There is your research handed over to you.

There is no inbetween. You ARE an Animal Rights supporter!

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posted 02-15-2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
Here are her words
"Those who argue against the euthanasia policy for pit bull dogs are naive. One dog that had just been adopted by a family suddenly clamped his jaw onto the thigh of a 7-year-old boy. Two grown men had a hard time getting the dog off and the child suffered permanent nerve damage. Tales like thisabound. I have scars on my leg and arm from my own encounter with a pit. Many are loving and will kiss on sight, but many are unpredictable. An unpredictable chihuahua is one thing, an unpredictable pit another."

"People who genuinely care about dogs won't be affected by a ban on pits. They can go to the shelter and save one of the countless other breeds and lovable mutts sitting on death row through no fault of their own. We can only stop killing pits if we stop creating new ones. Legislators, please take NOTE."

Oh, I must have misunderstood Ingrid's words? This seems like she loves them!!! OH yes, I now see~ She wants to help them!!! Well, hot damm what an approach she has!!! Why doesn't she target back yard breeders as her primary focus if she does not want to create new pitbulls???
How about leaving the breeding to the reputable breeders???
She does HATE PIT BULLS ITS SO OBVIOUS!!!!!!


First of all what makes you think that each and every pitbull that comes into a shelter is abused???????
Do you have any pitbulls of your own???
Do you spend countless hours at multiple shelters working with shelter pitbulls??
Well, I DO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Over 80% are there because of NO FAULT OF THEIR OWN!!! They just have had
IRRESPONSIBLE OWNERS!!!
Many are not abused just abandoned!!!
I also have a dog that was a "Bait" dog. If you don't know what that is ask Ingrid.
She was dumped at a local park and left for dead. Guess what? She is almost 3 years old now. She has her Canine Good Citizenship Certificate and does pet therapy at local nursing homes!!! She was an abused dog. She is thriving now!!!!! She loves people,kids, cats,& dogs.
If Ingrid had her way, Katie would be compost by now!!!!!

Have you ever heard of an ATTS Temperament test??? Pitbulls rank extremely high!!!

Here are some stats from my state for the year 2002.
3,862 pit bulls were euthanized in shelters. 78% of those dogs were put down simply because NO ONE wanted to ADOPT them!!! Not because they were ABUSED OR VICIOUS~! ONLY 9% pere considered VICIOUS or abused!!!!!!! MOST pitbulls are not being given a chance to thrive in a loving home.
In many shelters they are automatically viewed as being unacceptable!!! THE ROOT OF THIS PERCEIVED UNADOPTABILITY IS NEGATIVE PUBLIC OPINION!!!
What makes you think that ANY abused dog will not fear bite or attack????
But Ingrid and her followers decide to target the breed that needs the most help!!
Why doesn't she use her power to change public awareness for the better instead of worse??
Sorry, I don't support her nor her cause.
I choose to donate money, blankets, food, leashes, collars, etc., to an organization that I know will help the animals by looking at them as individuals. Obviously not placing dogs that are unadoptable. Many dogs need to be put to sleep. It would be unsafe for families and certainly would not help the breeds already bad reputation. I don't think all shelter pitbulls should be placed but I also think that many if not most are placeable. Good Old Ingrid just wishes to place them ALL in a shroud!!!!!!
Now she is hypocritical!!!
What an animal lover she is!!!!!

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posted 02-16-2004 01:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
i think petas meaning/interpretation of animal rights on their website is a bit of a laugh. talk about twisting it around to make it sound like sugary lollipops and candy canes.

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