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happi2bnow
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posted 01-16-2004 10:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for happi2bnow     Edit/Delete Message
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I am planning on breeding one of my pups. I have 2 female Pits sisters and they are going in heat soon. I plan on breeding kisses because I just want to see the puppies and she is the better looking of the 2.
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Deus
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posted 01-17-2004 12:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Deus     Edit/Delete Message
The BYB'S (Back Yard Breeder) will ruin all are breeds of choice before long. I'll bet niether parent has been Penhiped or OFA cert. nor has the female been checked for Vaginal Prolaps, what about Hart & Thiroid check.
These are suposed to be working breeds has either of the parents recieved titals in anything which would prove soundness and working ability.

These are just some of the things Responsible breeder do BEFORE!!! breeding.

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Jas

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posted 01-17-2004 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
I took this from my post under "breeding information" in the all dogs forum.

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Breeding is so much more than mating two dogs. [It includes knowing] the [pedigree] background and history of the sire and dam and whether the match of the two dogs is desirable. I would be extremely concerned about health [problems in the breed, learn about the health certifications most breeder in your breed test for]. Many of which are not apparent until the parents have well matured. Plus a wait list of homes should be in order before hand (not including selling to friends and family - something to be cautious about).
Use a websearch to search for articles about breeding and genetics [here is one] http://66.101.7.11/article_menu.htm I always stress that breeders (especially new ones) should belong to their breed club, and find someone willing to mentor you [Breed Clubs often have] a list of willing mentors to answer all your questions!). Do you belong to your breed club? Plus it should put you in contact with owners/breeders who will be as careful and selective about breeding as you should be. Breeding is not to be taken lightly and a "healthy" dog is much more than a vet check it involves clearances and certifications like OFA - hip & elbow, CERF, BAER, Cardiac, These tests are absolutely essential, breeding without having these [and other] clearances is irresponsible - one could be passing on health problems to the puppies, even if it appears the sire/dam are healthy they could still be carriers. Even if breeding is a one time deal for you, a breeder must be well informed and prepared because you will be responsible for life for these 4,6, 8 or 10 puppies YOU are creating. More advice - Books books and more books!!! Get your hands on breeding, breed, genetics, conformation & anatomy books, ALL OF which will be of great value to you as a breeder. Also attend some dog shows, learn to talk to other owners of your breed.

There is also a link to a thread in Auspet's PB forum called "Future Breeder" http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000230.html It has some very good information/links posted by Goob.

Here are some further links that should help you. http://www.dog-play.com/ethics.html http://www.akc.org/breeds/breederinfo/breeder.cfm http://www.doggiedoor.com/tobreed.shtml http://www.cyberpet.com/cyberdog/articles/general/breeding.htm http://www.dachshund-dca.org/articles/Standard_Book_of_Dog_Breed.html

To name some of the things a reputable breeder will be well informed about:
-how to select the best foundation dogs for breeding
- Cost of Heath testing their breeding animals
- Time and expense of breeding
- best representative of the breed (showing in conformation)
- mentor to follow under
-knowledge of canine diseases and genetics
- care of b*tch pre & post preg.
- Care & feeding of pups
- waitlist of buyers *before* breeding takes place
- contracts
- Vet care, check ups/ vaccination
- registration
- cost of tattoos (pups)
- cost of microchip "
- Someone to be there 24/7 for birth & raising of pups
- Cost of whelping box
- Supplies for birthing
- knowledge of temperament testing & evaluation
- On going support for puppy owners ALWAYS
-being prepared to take back a puppy or dog if necessary and rehoming

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One other thing, dogs should never be given away or advertised as free. Too many people don't value a dog they haven't had to pay for. Plus the chance of them disposing of the dog if it doesn't "work out" are greater. I'm guessing from your other thread you don't know the background of your dogs. So health, temperament and conformation are all unknown. I don't think I'd feel comfortable doing this breeding and I would not feel comfortable getting a pup from someone who couldn't tell me their dogs history.

Deus has also started a thread here in the PB forum called "The Definition of a BYB" http://www.auspet.com/ubb/Forum7/HTML/000531.html well worth the read and describes what a reputable breeder should be following.

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I plan on breeding kisses because I just want to see the puppies and she is the better looking of the 2.
when you've finished reading all the info provided you will come to see that THIS is NOT a good reason to breed.

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