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briget
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posted 12-17-2003 02:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for briget     Edit/Delete Message
I love dogs--all dogs. I own a dog. However, I am getting very upset at the pit bull situation in my city. For the second time in a month, an unleashed pitbull has run up to my dog and attacked her (the owners eventually pulled off their dogs, but I am wondering if my dog will soon be a pit bull fatality). First of all, is there any protective action I can take once the pit starts running towards my dog? She is not aggressive and never any match for the attacker. I have thought about picking her up to get her out of the way but it never seems a good idea to get between an attacking dog. Furthermore, what is up with you unresponsible dog owners? I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community. Any constructive advice would make much appreciated.

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daddyfs
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posted 12-17-2003 02:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
Furthermore, what is up with you unresponsible dog owners? I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community. Any constructive advice would make much appreciated.

wow, i don't think anyone on this board is an unresponsible dog owner.. you could have left this part out.. good luck with your dog

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 12-17-2003 03:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Briget:
I know what you mean... But, i think this goes to "all dogs". Especially to the irresponsible dog owners !!!

Like A LOT of people have mentioned, "some people should'nt have dogs" (or something like that )!!

Believe me, if a vicious Pitbull or any dog that can do G R E A T deal of harm to my dogs or even me came running up & started attacking us (& the owners were no where to be found/in sight)... The owners of that dog would be able to fing it in the local animal hospital or the like... Sorry, BE RESPONSIBLE, p l e a s e .

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Freedom
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posted 12-17-2003 04:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"For the second time in a month, an unleashed pitbull has run up to my dog and attacked her (the owners eventually pulled off their dogs, but I am wondering if my dog will soon be a pit bull fatality)."

I suggest you report these dogs to the local AC and tell them what is going on. Secondly, carry a breaking and learn to use it. You can carry mase or something like that, but usually beating on a pit bull or trying to hurt it to break it off another animal will only make it fight harder. I suggest you take a different walking route so you don't run into these off leash dogs. The best thing though is to call your AC and tell them what is going on.

"Furthermore, what is up with you unresponsible dog owners?"

That was a little harsh and uncalled for. Yes, there are irresponsible dog owners out there, but to lump all of us on this board as irresponsible is very immature and ignorant.

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daddyfs
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posted 12-17-2003 05:49 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
I suggest you report these dogs to the local AC and tell them what is going on. Secondly, carry a breaking and learn to use it. You can carry mase or something like that, but usually beating on a pit bull or trying to hurt it to break it off another animal will only make it fight harder. I suggest you take a different walking route so you don't run into these off leash dogs. The best thing though is to call your AC and tell them what is going on.

Hey Freedom, i read somewhere that if you use a breaking stick on a dog that isnt yours, it may turn on you.. if so, some people probably wouldn't be able to get a pit up off of them.. So is usin a breaking stick on an unfamiliar pit a good idea??

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kricks
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posted 12-17-2003 07:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kricks     Edit/Delete Message
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Furthermore, what is up with you unresponsible dog owners? I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community.

So what your saying is everyone that owns a pitbull is irresposible? Gimmee a break! You know what, just becasue one person leaves a dangerous dog off a leash, dosen't make all of the other people in this world that own that same breed irresposible. Call your local Animal Control office & have this dog you seem to be so afraid of taken care of. The entire community of APBT owners did not do this to you. One owner did & I feel it is very irresposible of you to label every person as such.

I can tell you that there is not a single person that post here that is irresposible. otherwise would we be here?

But I geuess if your dogs was being provoked by a german shephard all of the German shephard owners would be irresonsible too ehh????

What a joke!

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kyles101
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posted 12-17-2003 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
briget, a dangerous dog is a dangerous dog regardless of breed. i find the little white fluffy dogs to be the most aggressive! 'YOU irrensponsible dog owners', i dont get this. this board is for responsible dog owners to share their experiences and give advice. anyway, freedoms idea is good. carry mace and take a different route. never pick your dog up if a dog approaches, because even if its not aggressive it will want to say hi and it will jump at you and possibly knock you over. if a fight happens and you have nothing to get rid of the other dog then youll have to stand by and watch. dont be angry with the pit community, the people on this board are good people who have good dogs. be angry with the yobbo no hoper community who bring these types of dogs into bad homes.

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nemesis658
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posted 12-17-2003 09:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nemesis658     Edit/Delete Message
my advice is to pray to god that it doesnt lock hold of your body or your dog because they have alot of jaw pressure and it is difficult to pry their jaws apart when locked in

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daddyfs
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posted 12-17-2003 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
my advice is to pray to god that it doesnt lock hold of your body or your dog because they have alot of jaw pressure and it is difficult to pry their jaws apart when locked in

you do know they cant actually "lock" their jaws right??

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goob
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posted 12-17-2003 10:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
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For the second time in a month, an unleashed pitbull has run up to my dog and attacked her (the owners eventually pulled off their dogs, but I am wondering if my dog will soon be a pit bull fatality).

I can understand your frustrations, as I've had similar problems in my neighborhood. The only difference is that the offending dogs here are mostly labs and assorted mixed breeds, as those are the most popular breeds around here, and as such, more irresponsible people own them. It frustrates me to no end when I have to turn around and take a different route while taking my dogs on walks because some inconsiderate person thinks they are above taking responsibility for their dog and following the leash laws.

Irresponsibility is NOT limited to pit bull owners. As a pit bull owner (and owner of non-pit bulls as well), I take the necessary steps to keep my dogs (all of them) from assaulting or harassing other dogs and people. No, not every pit bull owner is responsible, but the same is true for owners of ALL dog breeds (and mixes).

Now, as far as preventing stray dogs from harassing you, there are numerous means to do so, their effectiveness varies by the situation. Carrying a visual or audible deterrent, like an umbrella (pop the umbrella open as the dog approaches), a stick, or an air horn (great for those late night walks, all your neighbors will love you) may help in many situations. There are also deterrent sprays on the market, from citronella or citrus extract to more severe pepper spray or bear mace, though you have to check with your local laws before buying any of the latter, and they have the ability to backfire on you in some situations (they may not work on some dogs, and they can blow back on you/your dog).

I would NOT even attempt to use a breaking stick in a fight between my non-pit bull and a strange pit bull unless it was a last resort. Not all pit bull looking dogs out there today have the bite inhibition the breed is supposed to have, and coupling that with a non-pit bull involved as well, and it's a recipe for a bite.

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 12-18-2003 01:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
GOOB:
or an air horn (great for those late night walks, all your neighbors will love you)

That was funny to read, i could just imagine!
I actually carry Pepper Spary w/ me, and the one i have actually streams out (like 10-15 feet) with accuracy too!
I was amazed when i finally pushed the button down. I finally decided to try it out to see how it would spray from reading all this "back-spraying" stuff & from actually seeing someone getting back-sprayed on t.v. using that Bear-spray type of stuff.
I did'nt want to be in that kinda back-fire mess!
The stream style was excellent, i actually feel even more confident knowing that i have an "aiming chance" before an attacker (dog) get's right up to us.

hey, how does a "breaking stick work?"
i'm thinking it's like a baton, right??
Would'nt you be able to just beat the hell out of the dog w/ it if it did'nt work properly ... LOL!!?!

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posted 12-18-2003 08:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
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my advice is to pray to god that it doesnt lock hold of your body or your dog because they have alot of jaw pressure and it is difficult to pry their jaws apart when locked in

you do know that these dogs don't have locking jaws right? thanks for scaring uneducated people though, good move ace.
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For the second time in a month, an unleashed pitbull has run up to my dog and attacked her (the owners eventually pulled off their dogs, but I am wondering if my dog will soon be a pit bull fatality)

so was it one dog or two? and i don't think your dog can be a pit bull fatality unless its a pit bull, get it? and i would've learned my lesson after the first time, so if you keep taking your dog out, and it keeps getting attacked, well then i would say yes your dog probably will get killed one day.
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what is up with you unresponsible dog owners? I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community

are you calling us irresponsible? thats not very nice. we didn't do anything to you or your dog, and for you to make that assumption is assinine. you know what happens when you assume things right? i don't understand why you are upset with the "pit community" for the actions of people who probably should not even own a dog to begin with.
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Any constructive advice would make much appreciated.

i have some ideas, you need to direct your anger in the right direction, we here on this board didn't do anything to you. if i were you i would get a dog that can take care of itself, sense you insist on continuing to walk it, putting it in harms way.

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True_Pits
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posted 12-18-2003 08:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe all you irresponsible Pit Bull owners shouldn't have replied to the post? Why would someone want help from a bunch of irresponsible owners?
I'm really sick and tired of irresponsible owners myself. The ones with the dachsunds, poms, labs and mutts that they let run loose all over town. Destroying neighbors garbage, biting people and running up on other people trying to walk their dogs. Animal Control won't come here, if they do its an hour later.

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Freedom
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posted 12-18-2003 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"Hey Freedom, i read somewhere that if you use a breaking stick on a dog that isnt yours, it may turn on you.. if so, some people probably wouldn't be able to get a pit up off of them.. So is usin a breaking stick on an unfamiliar pit a good idea??"

If I didn't have any other way to get the dog off of my dog and I had a non-pit bull then I would use the breaking stick. If you don't have any other way to get help and you want to save your dogs life then, I would.

"hey, how does a "breaking stick work?"
i'm thinking it's like a baton, right??
Would'nt you be able to just beat the hell out of the dog w/ it if it did'nt work properly ... LOL!!?!"

I don't know if your joking or not about the breaking stick question, but for others that don't know I'll explain. A breaking stick is just that, a stick. It is usually wooden, sometimes made out of polymer and about 12 inches long. At the end of the stick it is whittled down into a wedge so you can stick it in the back of the APBTs mouth where the gap is and pry the dog's jaws open. You get behind the dog, straddling him, grab the collar and kinda pull up, then with the other hand stick the breaking stick in the back of the mouth behind the molars where the gap is. You twist it so you pry the dogs jaws open. As soon as the dog's mouth has been pryed off you immediately pull the dog off by the collar. As far as beating the dog off with it, lol. It is never a good idea to beat an APBT that is fighting, it usually gets them more riled up.

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cricket
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posted 12-30-2003 11:32 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
first and for most, are you 100% sure that these dogs are actually pitbulls, because i am tired of pitbulls, as a breed, being blamed for the attacks of pitbull look alikes, or pitbull mixes, there are alot of breeds that can closely resemble a pitbull to someone who really is'nt too familiar with the breed. Secondly, you cant blame the breed, it is the fault of the irrisponsible owners, you should take actions against them and not our breed.

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posted 12-30-2003 03:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, using a breaking stick doesn't do diddley crap if you are by yourself. You need two people to be able to use one, unless you happen to have something to leash the offending dog onto. Besides that, most people really don't know how to use one even if they have one. And one last note on the breaking stick subject, I personally would be scared to death to use it when confronted with another breed. They can only be safely used on pit bulls.

I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community.

So with this statement, you are basically saying that numerous pit bulls have tried to attack you and your dog? If not, and you are only talking about this one pit bull making numerous detours to the vicinity of you and your dog, why are you angry with the pit bull community as a whole? Take it up with the owner personally! It's not even the dog's fault for christ sakes!

It's a dog thing, NOT a pit bull thing. Please remember that. We have our reputation to uphold.

Anyway, it was the OWNER who was in the wrong, not the pit bull!!!! I truly can never understand people who think like you do.

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posted 12-31-2003 03:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Freedom, i read somewhere that if you use a breaking stick on a dog that isnt yours, it may turn on you.. if so, some people probably wouldn't be able to get a pit up off of them.. So is usin a breaking stick on an unfamiliar pit a good idea??"
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If I didn't have any other way to get the dog off of my dog and I had a non-pit bull then I would use the breaking stick. If you don't have any other way to get help and you want to save your dogs life then, I would.

i see where your comin from freedom.. i jus dont think a lot of people can handle the pit if it jumps on them.. i can see where you want to save your dog, but i have heard that usin that stick on a pit that isnt yours can cause some serious injury.... i jus wanted to point that out before people start thinkin its cool to do that


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cricket
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posted 12-31-2003 04:52 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cricket     Edit/Delete Message
I really dont think that using a break stick is a very good idea. Not because of the pitbull but because of your dog. Pitbulls fight by grabbing hold of one particular spot and holding on. It is also totally against a pits nature to bite a person, even a stranger, even during a fight. Other non fighting breeds fight by biting in a random manner, snapping and biting any and everything they can get their mouths on, including your hands. And for these reasons, "your" dog might be more dangerous to "you" during a fight than the pitbull. If the dog does not seem people aggressive,(which would probably be very hard to tell considering the fact that he's tryna kill your dog) just grab the skin on his neck till he lets go to get a better grip, then quickley pull him off of your dog. If it is people aggressive, dont get in the way, your life is more important than your dogs.

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posted 01-01-2004 03:05 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nemesis658     Edit/Delete Message
quote: benny boy
i would've learned my lesson after the first time, so if you keep taking your dog out, and it keeps getting attacked, well then i would say yes your dog probably will get killed one day.

so what your saying benny boy is that if a person doesnt want their dog to be attacked by a pittbull while being walked then they shouldnt walk their dogs.Thats stupid, people should be able to walk their dogs without worrying about another dog attacking their dog.

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GoodboysBaddogs
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posted 01-01-2004 03:26 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for GoodboysBaddogs     Edit/Delete Message
Excuse me... I posted something really stoops! ....

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posted 01-02-2004 08:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
nemisis, if i took my dog out and it kept getting attacked i wouldn't continue to take my dog out, on the same route anyways. i'de go to the park or a lake.

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so what your saying benny boy is that if a person doesnt want their dog to be attacked by a pittbull while being walked then they shouldnt walk their dogs.Thats stupid, people should be able to walk their dogs without worrying about another dog attacking their dog.

no that's not what i was saying. i was saying that if you walk you're dog and it is continuously attacked by "pittttbulls" then it is irresponsible on the person walking the dogs part by putting the dogs life in harms way. if your dog was previously attacked, and you know the owners dogs get out frequently why would you even go their? do whatever you want but if it were my dog i'de go somewhere else. and yes in a perfect world one should be able to walk their dog without the worry of it being mauled, and you wouldn't even need to keep your dog on a leash either. but this isn't a perfect world, is it?
so what was stupid?

oh, and just in case you didn't pick up on my subtle hint it's not pittbull, it's pit bull

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posted 01-02-2004 09:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeIPK     Edit/Delete Message
A person should be allowed to walk thier dog without fear of it being attacked. If the problem is persistant than carry a cattle prod or other weapon with you. I have owned this breed for a long time and have never had my dogs run and attack peoples dogs walking down the street. They should be contained in a fashion that would prevent this from happening. I may walk in another direction if I knew of a threat, although if I was in a position where I had to cross that path I would most definitly carry a weapon to inflict injury/death on the loose dog.

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posted 01-02-2004 10:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
notice how 'briget' has never made anymore posts on her thread?? hmmm!

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posted 01-24-2004 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jonez67     Edit/Delete Message
maybe she hasn't posted again cause she has become a "pitbull fatality" ....hhhmmmm....

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What about all the loose dogs coming on you when your walking your own dog? That hardly seems fair either. I can barely even walk my dogs without some one's dog running up to us because they fail to keep it contained!! It is so annoying, why should I constantly have to be on the lookout to keep other dogs safe, when my dog is on a leash. I DO walk different ways and sooner or later there is a couple irresponsible owners letting their dogs run loose. Some laugh and think it is funny that their dog is in harms way and that a Pit Bull could possibly injure their dog, others get mad like their dog has the right to run loose everywhere and others don't seem to care at all, which is really stupid!! ALL owners should be responsible. I was walking the other day (w/o a dog) and I was already across the street when this Dachund runs towards me barking and there was a truck coming and he had to slam on his breaks to avoid hitting the dog. Now this same old lady already got a dachund run over by a motorcylce only months ago. Plain ignorant. She has a fenced in yard to, but she has the gate open and was on the outside of the gate with her dog, who never listens to her. And the same Australian Cattle Dog that tried to attack me was also loose again another time I was walking and he was staring me down all the way up the other block I made a quick turn so I wouldn't have to cross paths with him again.

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Geez:
I am new to this board.
I was searching for a Positive pitbull message board. This one came up on. The first message I read was from Briget and her recurrent incidents with "THE IRRESPONSIBLE PITBULL OWNER"
I have owned pitbulls for many years now. I don't see how one irresponsible owner should account for ALL!!!!!! Seems to me like you discriminate against pitbulls???
I also have an irresponsible dog owner in my own neighborhood. This idiot knows I have pitbulls (which DO NOT HAVE AGGRESSION) (He does not know my dogs however) anyway, this fool routinely lets his 6 lb mutt run free in the neighborhood daily.
Nothing gets done. We have reported this incident so many times to the ACO. It is a useless battle. I guess some people who don't own pit bulls do not always see a problem with their own dogs and some of the things they can do to PREVENT a situation from happening!!!
This MUTT pees in my yard, antagonizes my dogs while they are in their own 6 ft. Fenced in area, craps in my yard and barks all hours of the day and night!
So who in this picture do you think is irresponsible???? the pit bull owner or the mutt owner??? See the picture!!! It does not matter what type of dog you own IRRESPONSIBLE IS SPELLED THE SAME WAY PITBULL BREED OR NOT!!!
I suggest if you know that the dog is going to be out running that you change your route? Seems to make sense to me??? Also, report the dog each and every time you see him out running. Make a log of it. And for Goodness sakes don't blame "THE PIT COMMUNITY" seems to me like you can do your part in protecting your own dog by not going near dogs with dog aggression especially if you already have already had bad experiences with this dog and his irresponsible owner!!!
Don't go looking for trouble!!!!!!!!!!! WALK ANOTHER WAY!!!!!!!!!!

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Thats about right. Sorry to hear you had an encounter with an ACD True_pitts.... They can be agressive.
I don't know why someone would even allow an ACD off its leash in a public place. With their strong instincts to herd, its just an accident waiting to happen. I know, I have them. Frankly I think the ACD should probably have a worse rap than the pitts. I'm not puting down my own breed, but if they aren't raised properly and begin training from the very start, they become uncontrolable fast. THey derive from the wild dingo, and that instinct takes over fast. As for the pitts, I've only encountered one vicious one.
A black guy in our town, (NOT BEING RACEST OR ANYTHING) Has a beautiful fawn colored pitt with the darker brown/black markings on its muzzle and feet...anyhow...he's a beautiful dog, but oh so vicious.
He puts the dog in the back of his old beat up truck (daily) with out tieing him in....the dog lunges at people. I'm talking almost falls out of the truck trying to bite. He parked by the elementary school one day when I was picking up my young cousin from school, the dog jumped out of the back of the pickup, ran over to a lady that was walking her "mutt" and started shaking the mutt back and forth.... all these kids were screaming and throwing a fit.. the lady was sooo upset and was trying so hard to get her dog away, and the pitt turned on her. She hit it a few times with her purse, and then it turned its attention back to the already dead pup.

THe guy comes out of the store, laughing hysterically.
I was sooo mad, I went up to the lady, consoled her a bit and wraped the pup up in an old feed sack I had in the truck. I went up to the man, the dog is still running around.....and griped him out so bad...
He just laughed...

That is what ticks me off...irrisponsible owners that train their dogs to be this way. What if it would have hurt one of the kids??

We called the sheriffs dpt...the dog is still with the man...

This really didn't help the stereotyping lable put on these dogs....And in our small town, it really didn't help matters.

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I had a problem once with a german shepard that charged at me and my dog on a walk one time. I kept kicking the shepard so that my dog wouldnt get a hold of it. I was trying to help it. It would back of a bit then come charging back, the whole time im trying to hold my dog behind me. Then the owner of the shepard starts yelling at me, "stop kicking my dog" but did nothing to stop his dog. A few kicks later, the owner is still standing on his porch yelling, but still no attempts to come get his dog. I got tired of kicking and my dog got the shepard by the leg. Suddenly his dog wasnt so aggressive anymore and started screaming. All his neighbors heard the screaming and came outside and saw my dog shakeing his. They all thought it was my fault, (cause I had the pit) but i still had the leash in my hand while his dog was loose and about three houses away from his own. Needless to say by the time we got them apart the dogs leg was useless. So the owner threatened to Sew me for medical bills cause my dog broke his dogs leg. All his neighbors said they would testify as witnesses. We exchanged informaton, but I guess he never persued it. I have a strong feeling that I would have lost the case just because my dog is a pit. My point I wasnt mad at the "german shepard community" or even the breed, I was mad at the owner for being irresponsible.So how could you sa yyou are mad at the "pit communitiy" we didnt all sit back and plot an attack on your dog?

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posted 01-26-2004 11:18 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
I din't refer to the pitt community.. I refered to those who abuse their dogs, teach them to be mean, and let them run free..putting other dogs at risks and children.

This guy was a complete idiot. If i could have I'd have hit him. THe dog stays chained in his yard, occasionally he breaks free and you can see him running through the town.....

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posted 01-26-2004 10:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeIPK     Edit/Delete Message
Cricket-I had a simular incident when I had my Red nose dogs. In MI if you retain control of your dog while the dog is being attacked you will not loose a lawsuit.
I was walking Taz at around three in the afternoon and a Rottie came out of the wood work so to speak. The dog came from behind us and if it had not been for Taz turning quickly I may have been biten. I heard a growl at the second prior to Taz grabbing but was a little shocked at the position of the Rottie, I really feel the dog was coming for me and not Taz. Unfortunatly the Rottie suffered some serious injuries and the owner destroyed the dog. The police did come and some nieghbors did assist me in explaining this to them. Around a month later I was sued for the price of the dog as well as other ad on's. He was sueing for the max in MI $3000. I left the court room with a $200 countersuit for vet fees. We don't always loose, We just have to cover our bases a little better than the next guy.

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posted 01-26-2004 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeIPK     Edit/Delete Message
Also, He would have lost $2000 anyways. In MI dogs are viewed as property and valued at $1000. It is very hard to prove they are over the $1000 value from my understanding.

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posted 01-27-2004 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
ok, whats the point in sayin he was a black guy?? i never once seen anyone refer to a person as a white guy on here.. why you jus cant say this guy??

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posted 01-28-2004 08:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
Walk with a a very stout walking stick and keep it with you ~~~ every time you take your dog out. If a strange dog comes near you - warn him off with your voice (this is very important in respect to your dog looking at you as a pack leader - your dog expects you to protect him). If the dog comes through your warning then crack him over the head as hard as you can with the stick. We are not talking about love taps here. You will not kill a dog by doing this. They have very thick skulls.


This info came from a very good dog training site. I have purchased a few of their training videos and I have learned an awful lot. Seems like information we all can use!!

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posted 01-28-2004 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
crack the dog over the head with a stick?? thats sounds good.. but i dont think everyone will be able to do that either.. then what if you miss??

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posted 01-28-2004 11:17 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
Well, then the article goes on to tell you how to correctly spray the dog with pepper spray
"I would recommend carrying pepper gas (the 10% concentrate stuff) and I would have put the nozzle within inches of the attacking dogs nose. Try and squirt it right up the nose and right into their eyes. Dogs don't have tear ducts, I think the nose works better. When the attacking dog backs off - continue to spray it. I would spray it until the can is empty."
That was the second thing the trainer recommended to do.

Personally, I don't know if this is right or wrong but it works for me, I carry a cattle prod with me when I am out going for walks with my dogs. This way, I have full control. I have only had to use it once before ~~but the other dog (large breed rottie mix) not on a leash ran away very fast. I am not going to put any of my pitbulls in harms way of another dog. Because if an incident happened, we all know that the media would turn the story around and make it the pitbulls fault!!!
My theory is do whatever works for you!!!

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posted 01-30-2004 06:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindylou-poo2     Edit/Delete Message
Pit Lovers,
hate me if you like, but I think quite a few of you are a little anxious to jump all over new comers that are (in my eyes) only looking for help. I do not believe that Bridgit was referring to any one on this board as an irresponsible dog owner, but yet that maybe she had come to get advise from responsible dog owners to help out with the situations she has gone through.
I own a shih tzu, yes a little lap dog, but you know what her best (doggy friends) friends are pits and rotti's, I am confortable around most dogs, but that doesn't mean that every one is....

Bottom line,
I would never come back to this board if ya'll responded to me like that, and thus I may never have learned from this board what nice friends pit's can be...

Good Night,

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posted 02-02-2004 11:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for akooker     Edit/Delete Message
I am a proud pitbull owner,and i am also sorry you got jumped on like that,however you have to understand everyone on here is just trying to protect their babies,as you are with your dog.I would say you should definately confront the owners of the pitbulls,it is the owner's fault,NOT THE PITBULL.Are you sure that these dogs are even pitbulls,how do you know???I would also agree it would be a good idea to take a different route for your walk.Good Luck!I truly hope your dog is not attacked ever again!

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posted 02-03-2004 06:08 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
cindylou-poo2

Bridgett was referring to "The Pit Community" blaming all pit owners in a generalized format over the irresponsibility of one idiot!!!
If that is how she is trying to meet
Pit Lovers as well as learn about the breeds good side then she started off in a bad way. Maybe she should have posted in a I HATE PITBULLS SITE instead???
I have been involved in animal rescue for quite some time now. Even though my breed of choice is American Staffordshire Terriers/American Pit bulls and pit mixes, that does not mean that I discriminate against any other breed. I love all dogs. I can safely say that. I have been bitten by a yellow lab and a poodle in the past. That does not mean I am quick to jump on lab owners (oh yea I happen to own a yellow lab and he harmonizes nicely with my pit bulls) or do I categorize all poodles. Bridgett used some strong words and responsible dog owners should be upset if people continue to catorigize us all into one group especially with irresponsible dog owners. Just because we own pit bulls does not make us irresponsible. On the contrary, some of us are more in tune with our dogs needs.
It is nice that your shih tzu plays with other breeds. Apparently you can break past the media hysteria. That is noble of you. Also, your dogs other play friends showed YOU BY THEIR ACTIONS that they are SAFE for your little dog to play with.
People like Bridgett and the way she wrote her thread only add to the media's already poor judgment and their love to quickly ruin all pit bulls character. (That's even if this dog was a pit bull from the start)

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posted 02-03-2004 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
I would never come back to this board if ya'll responded to me like that, and thus I may never have learned from this board what nice friends pit's can be...

Honestly, I don't know what you are referring to. I went through all of the replies to this person and none of them were ignorant or smart-assy. Do you actually mean you wouldn't come to this board because the repliers incinuated they had a little more common-sense NOT to repeat an 'accident waiting to happen'? Or giving some good advice and also sharing some of their past experiences with dealing with dogs of OTHER breeds who attack our dogs? Come on. All were trying to help! Anyway....seriously.....what would YOU think if someone came onto your specific breed board and said they had a problem with the entire community just because of one A-hole? Not fair is it? I personally think these people did VERY good in their replies. My goodness, you should see most pit bull boards. She would have left in tears. (And thats putting it nicely.)

She says:

Furthermore, what is up with you unresponsible dog owners? I would like to be able to side with fellow dog owners regarding dog rights but these experiences have made me very angry with the pit community. Any constructive advice would make much appreciated.

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posted 02-03-2004 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MyPetTherapyDog     Edit/Delete Message
chickee
VERY NICELY PUT!!!!!

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posted 02-04-2004 08:14 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cindylou-poo2     Edit/Delete Message
OKay, after re-reading thriugh the posts, Chickdee maybe you are right. I just find that when reading through some of the posts, it seem sthat people are only coming to this board to try to understand the pit's or simimalr breeds and that immediately they are accused of discrimination, accusing thr wrong breed, etc. Then again, I am not in your shoes, and I don't take discrimination from anyone about my dog, so maybe I would be defensive...

I dunno, anyways, I wil head back over to the all dogs and toy dogs forum...

signing off,

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posted 02-04-2004 08:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for benny boy     Edit/Delete Message
yeah well that was brigets only post, and personally i dont believe that he/she came here to learn anything, only to point fingers and cast blame on for something that she was upset about. if it were me common sense would kick in and tell me that if my dog got attacked when i walked over there then i probably should want to walk somewhere else? call me crazy....she could also sue the dog owners for vet bills and stuff like that. my previous post may have been a little snappy, but im sorry im not going to let an ignorant person blame the "pit community" for the actions of one irresposible owner. in my neighborhood i see about 10 unleashed dogs running around everyday (out in the country), none of them being pits, but yet we're accused of being irresponsible for the simple fact that we own, like, love our apbt's.....im sorry but this is something that i have little patience for, im sick of the looks and reactions that i get when i tell people that i own a pit. i just got into a huge argument with my friends girlfriend bc she was telling me how pits were born mean...yeah that lasted a good hour....i think we should ban narrow minded people who aren't capable of understanding anything...i think that someone hating a dog for it's breed is the same as being racist, well sort of anyways....they dont like it for how it looks instead of getting to know its little doggy personality they dont even give it a chance...sort of like what happened in WWII...okay im gonna stop now, i think i rambled enough.......

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