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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 03:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Meka, i noticed that you live in Tn. I will be home in Tn in jan, and wanted to know if you knew any good kennels or dogs i can check out. thanks

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posted 12-11-2003 04:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I know the ? was directed to Meka. But what kind of kennel are you looking for? That could help in the answer you get. Game, conformation, weightpull, just a pet from good stock? What bloodlines?

Weightpull dogs http://hometown.aol.com/solidrockennels/

These don't seem to be anything special but they are located in tennesse http://johnsonspits.tripod.com/
Breeding hemphill/wilder/woods and some others. Have a few tracing back to some game dogs such a Lug POR out of Jeep and Turpin's Blu Trouble & Blu rowdy. They are really just scatterbred though.

Here is a kennel located in TN with well bred dogs that will excell at anything. http://offdachain.ms11.net//
They also have this bitch forsale is she is still avalible. Jeep/Redboy w/ some Rascal http://www.apbt.online-pedigrees.com/public/printPedigree.php?dog_id=71657

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Daddyfs. I don't really know of any good kennels. I will check around. The guy I got mine from, is pretty good. He takes really good care of his dogs, but doesn't breed anything more than pets normally. However, he's just bought a blue & white double registered purple ribbon pup that he's going to stud, but that won't be until later in the year. Let me look around & see what I can find. There is a good kennel in Va. though.... Let me get her info if I can find it. You might like to talk to her. I'll get back to you as soon as I find her info.....

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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 04:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks True_pit for your reply and thanks Meka for lookin for me. Im not really lookin for a show dog or weight pullin dog. Jus a dog to sit at home with me and my wife, run with me in the mornings and a all around good friend. I gotta question tho.. Some of these kennels (offda chain for exapmle) say they have game dogs, but dont support fight dogs. From what i understand, gamenest is tested by fightin the dogs.. please correct me if im wrong..

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 05:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
You know....I thought the same thing!! I'm not sure about that one. Maybe TruePits can help? He seems to be really well educated, & he's been a HUGE help to me.... Anyway, I can't find the info for the kennel in Va. Not sure what I did with it. I'd lose my head if it wasn't attached! Sorry! I'll keep looking for it. I found the same kennels in Tn that TruePits found. I'll keep looking though. I'll let you know if I can find anything else. Any particular color or blood lines you're looking for?

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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 05:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
not really lookin for bloodlines or a color. jus a healthy good lookin pup.. all that matters to me.. dont plan on doin shows or anythin like that.. i have been lookin myself and havent really found any in TN that caught my eye.. Im gonna be stationed in florida so i guess i can wait til i get there

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
I had that problem too! lol Almost everything in Tn,(unfortunatley), is BYB. I'll continue to keep my eye out. Do you want a male or female, or does it make any difference? Any certain price range? There is a long story as to why I ended up getting my dogs from the guy I got them from. Don't get me wrong, he's a nice guy, & he takes good care of his dogs.

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posted 12-11-2003 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
i would like a male.. i have had a female and loved her. i really want a male to run around with. not concerned about price.. tho im not payin 3 gs for a pup

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Ok. What part of Tn are you coming to? Here's a silly question... do you want a standard sized Pit, or an oversized, muscly, big headed Pit? Sorry for all of the questions. I just need a general idea of what you are looking for, so I can see if I can find something that may interest you. I don't blame you... I would pay 3 gs for a dog either! lol That's too much $ if you aren't going to show it....I promise, I'll keep my eyes opened & see if I can help you out....

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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
close to nashville.. im from clarksville. its close to symrna.. im not into the oversize pits. about a 65lbs dog. my main thing is temperment.. if they have a good tepmerment and good health.. everything else will fall into place.. thanks for your help Meka.. it is truly appreciated

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Oh! You won't be very far from me then.... I'll keep an eye out & see if I can find something that will interest you. Temperament is always my key thing as well.... I'm sure I can find something by the time you come to Tn.

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posted 12-11-2003 05:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
check that.. if you can find a place where i can get a dog like your Diesel.. Wow thats a great looking dog!!

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 05:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Hey, what about a rescue dog? There's a rescue in Tn. They have some BEAUTIFUL dogs, of all ages. They temperament test them, etc.... here's the link. www.heartsofgoldpitrescue.petfinder.com(Chance is my favorite, he's solid white.....you'll see him). The adoption fee is $200. That includes spay or neuter, shots, & any medical treatment they've provided. Let me know if that link works or not....

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
I can e-mail the guy that I got Diesel & the girls from, if you want me to. He breeds some big Pits, but he also breeds smaller ones. I can ask & see what he's expecting to have available around Jan. I'm not sure which dogs he has papers on, & which one's he doesn't though.(You do want papers, right?) This guy is a really nice guy.
Diesel's HUGE. He's almost 100 lbs. He's one of those "overly large, muscley, big headed brutes. lol He thinks he's a lap dog. He doesn't realize that he's way too big & I'm way to small for him to sit on my lap! lol He has the best temperament I've ever seen in a dog. Very quick & eager to learn as well.

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posted 12-11-2003 06:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
i cant get to that page at work for some reason.. if they have pups i will definately check it out..

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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 06:11 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
yes, if i can get a dog like your diesel.. i definately cant complain!! he looks like a good compaion.. papers would be nice, but its not the most important thing.. i dont plan on breedin.. but if you could contact them for me or see if its ok if i can contact them i would appreciate it.. thanks!!

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
No problem! Thank you for the compliments by the way.... Diesel is an amazing companion! I'll e-mail them, & make sure it's ok for me to give out their e-mail address & or phone #. Wouldn't want to do something like that without asking! It usually takes them a few days to get back to me. They stay sooo busy! lol I'll let you know something the minute I hear from them. Ok? Did you see the pictures of Catfish, in my photo album? He's Diesel's dad. He's about Diesel's size, but he has a bigger head!

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posted 12-11-2003 06:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
The dog Meka mentioned is on this page: http://www.pbrc.net/dogpages/south/heartsofgold6699_2.html

And there are more dogs listed here: http://pbrc.net/dogpages/south/dogsouth.html

Also, did you ever find out if the place you're moving in FL has breed bans? I know there are several counties with bans, and even mroe with restrictions.

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daddyfs
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posted 12-11-2003 06:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
thanks meka.. i will be checkin for it!! hey Goob, i have checked and called down there and havent seen anythin on BSL in Tampa. if anyone knows different please let me know!!

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Meka
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posted 12-11-2003 06:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Thank you Goob! Don't know why it wouldn't work. It was the address to their website. Anyway, Daddyfs, they don't have any small pups, but I do think they have some as young as 4 or 5 months. They've got some really pretty dogs. Check out the link Goob sent. At the bottom, you can click on the link to their website, & see some more dogs. I e-mailed the guy for you. I will definitely let you know what he says, the minute I hear from him.

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posted 12-11-2003 06:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
Here's all I managed to find for Fl.

Pit Bulls are banned in North Miami/Dade County (click for Dade codes) - Both pure and mixed breed Pit Bull dogs are classified as dangerous. It has been illegal to acquire a new Pit Bull dog since January 1, 1990. Failure to register, muzzle, confine, and insure a Pit Bull is a violation of the law subject to severe penalty. Section 5-17.1, Miami-Dade Code.

Restrictions in Cape Coral, Sunrise, and Tamarac (click here).

www.pbrc.net/breedspecific.html

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posted 12-11-2003 07:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
i will be in hillsbrough county.. and i dont see any breed restrictions.. so im in the clear!!

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True_Pits
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posted 12-11-2003 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
DADDYFS, Almost every Pit Bull website states they do not condone or participate in illegal activities, ect . Its just a disclaimer and so not to get in trouble with the law. Also stating All accounts are fictional and for entertainment purposes is another thing you will see a lot. That way when talking about match reports and test the law cannot be called because the sport is illegal in US.

Breeding true game dogs is breeding match or fighting dogs.
Many Hog Hunters claim to breed game dogs and say hog hunting is a way to test gameness. Also some people do both.

Oph Da Chain Kennels has some very nice, very wel bred dogs. At reasonable prices but the don't sell very many dogs.

Hey but if you are going to florida there are many good kennels down there. Lots of BYBs though. But plenty of nice ones.
Daddyfs quote,
"im not into the oversize pits. about a 65lbs dog."
"if you can find a place where i can get a dog like your Diesel"

Diesel although he is a great looking dog is an oversized pit @ 100lbs. I have to admit he is one of the BEST huge dogs I've ever seen in my life. Probably because he is pure...lol. Most the ones I have seen were mastiffs and other mixes with the pit having hung papers.
65lbs is even out of standard for a Pit Bull, although its becoming common to see big dogs like that. I'm going to check some of the florida kennels I know a couple really good ones. I have also run by some that I don't really know much about but seem to be breeding right. well I'm off to check let you know what I find.

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posted 12-11-2003 08:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Meka     Edit/Delete Message
TruePits, thank you for the compliments on Diesel. I appreciate it.

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posted 12-11-2003 08:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
wow 65lbs is outta standard?? i believe you. my last girl was a pit and was 65lbs.. i seen diesel, and he is a big boy, but i would love to have a dog that looks like that.. thanks True_Pits for the info

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posted 12-11-2003 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
Here are some of the florida ones. A lot of kennels don't have websites but heres a few that do. http://www.freewebs.com/shock_therapy_knls/[/URL]
Greenwood, Banjo, Sorrells, Hollingsworth, and Mayday

http://hometown.aol.com/fast90st/TICK.html


I think this one was in florida or around there. I may be wrong but you can email and see where they are located. http://www.corbinskennels.com/puppys.html They have some very nice looking, well bred dogs. I really like them looks and pedigree wise.

http://www.flsunshinekennels.com/


One of the top kennels out there. Tatonka Kennels Ecellent Sorrells blood. http://www.ampitbull.com/introduction.htm

There are some good ones in florida just hard to find. Because it has been flooded with so many peddlers over the past few years.

[This message has been edited by True_Pits (edited 12-11-2003).]

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posted 12-11-2003 08:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for daddyfs     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks TP.. i will be sure to look these up when im off work.. i cant go to some of these sites on a government computer for some reason

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posted 12-12-2003 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
I suggest Arch Angel Kennels, they are located in Sevierville, TN. http://www.archangelkennels.com

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posted 12-12-2003 01:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I thought Arch Angel was an Am Staff kennel? Maybe I'm wrong, guess I could click the link and find out.

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posted 12-12-2003 02:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I looked at the site and it was. I was assuming the individual wanted an APBT, but guess nobody asked that question.

Do you want an APBT? An AmStaff? Or does it matter which?

On the subject of over sized pits, I think some really look good when bred RIGHT. I was really thinking about that. The first dog appearing in my photo album is only about 46lbs chain weight around 41-2lbs conditioned, but his sire is a little over-sized @ 60lbs the last time I saw him. Now he could easily drop weight but even at 50lbs he'd be a big dog. He's a good sized dog and has a big head, looks almost twice the size of my dog's which is 18 or 19 inches. I know its not 2xs that size it just looks really big. Even though the dog is rather large he has nice conformation and obviously can produce the same. His sire (my dogs grandsire) was a smaller dog, did have a good sized head though while the dam was a little bigger, its her dam however who was the larger dog probably close to 55lbs chain weight, so I'm sure thats where the size comes from on top of the other solid built dogs, with solid heads. So its kind of strange the 55lbs female has a 50lbs grandson(my dog's sire) even though her daughter is about 45lbs. Which means my dog may produce larger dogs than himself , hopefully not too large. Its just something I've been thinking about. If I take him to something close even if the female is smaller she can still have genes to produce larger dogs and I may end up with biger dogs than I want.

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posted 12-12-2003 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angie     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, i dont know if this will help you out any. Maybe you are willing to travel. my brothers female is having a litter on Dec. 25, 2003. We are located in Louisiana. The pups will be ADBA registered. Please email me if interested. they will be short and stocky. parents are sweet. Please email me if interested.
thanks.... angie_marie_p@hotmail.com
hope we can help you out!

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posted 12-13-2003 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"If I take him to something close even if the female is smaller she can still have genes to produce larger dogs and I may end up with biger dogs than I want"

If you want regular sized puppies, like around 40 lbs. then take a regular sized female and breed her to your male. You should end up with larger ones and then regular sized dogs. If you take a small apbt then you will end up with small and large dogs. A lot of times people think that if they breed a smaller female to their larger male they will get average sized dogs, but you will just get small and large dogs as a result. If you want regular size, then you need an average sized female.

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posted 12-13-2003 10:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.edelhauskennel.com/
http://finalfrontierfarm.tripod.com/
http://sunntarra.amstaffs.net/

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posted 12-13-2003 05:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
I'm starting a different thread about the offspring size. I'll welcome anymore input I just don't want to fill up this thread that was created by daddyfs to find them a pit. It was just a spur of the moment post.

Freedom I appreciate your response to my little post, but I disagree or maybe agree to some degree. If that make sense. I know there is NO WAY to know 100% the size of the pups but genetics still play a role. I'm taking my average size 45lbs male and breeding him to an avarage size female I think she is just under 40lbs CW. They can produce and may produce larger pups. I can't say either way if they will but their is a good chance sense they are close and this will be a line breeding. The female's grand dam is 55lbs CW and that same female is my dogs great grand dam 2xs and grand dam 1xw because of the son/mother breeding on bottom. It is already clear to me that its a possibility that they can have larger dogs because his sire is 50lbs and is out of a 40lbs sire and the dam a little over that. So both average sized parents produced a dog bigger and the sister is a monster too. Well I'm not going to go into all the detail that I'll save that for my own thread.
I know i should get some regular sized ones though, just won't know until it happens.

"If you want regular sized puppies, like around 40 lbs. then take a regular sized female and breed her to your male. If you want regular size, then you need an average sized female."

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posted 12-13-2003 05:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
If the female and male are consistent in their weight through their pedigree then what I said normally does hold true. But it sounds like your dogs aren't consistent in size through their pedigree, so who knows.

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