posted 11-04-2003 08:56 AM           

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i feel as though many people don't understand what these dogs go through...very few pit bulls are fortunate enough to belong to a loving family. most are beaten, starved, fed blood, exercised on a rope so that if they pass out from exhaustion they will pay with their lives...would you be upset if that happened to you? if you did that to any animal, or person for that matter, i believe that you would get the same reaction as you do from pits. people who believe that pits are inherently evil have obviously never owned one. the animals that have the problems you hear about should not be punished for the actions of their criminal owners. people always want to blame the dog...imagine that you have lived this life of violence and cruelty, and when the world finds out about it, instead of having compassion and empathy, they want to kill you too. i think that you should all be ashamed of yourselves for blaming a people problem on these animals, why don't you go out and get to know a pit bull, then you will see that the abuse of these loving animals twists them into an abomination of what god created them to be. if you hear nothing, or rather believe nothing else i say here today, believe this: if you truly want to protect people from pit bulls, you must first protect pit bulls from people. we ourselves are the root of this particular evil, and we are only reaping the benefits of what we have, or have allowed to be sown.

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posted 11-04-2003 11:07 AM         

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fed blood? where did you read that? have you thought of posting this message on a board that dosen't like pit bulls? you do realize that all of us here love our apbt's, right? it was a very compelling post though, interresting "facts"!!!!

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posted 11-04-2003 11:41 AM         

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most are beaten, starved, fed blood, exercised on a rope so that if they pass out from exhaustion they will pay with their lives...

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Spreading these type of things around for ignorant owners and the general public to see helps the breed about as much as actually DOING those things. That's a big part of the reason APBTs are in as much trouble as they are today, because "humane groups" couldn't believe that a dog could actually LIKE to fight, and started making up stories about how they were taught to. Now every ignorant APBT owner in the US thinks that if they want their dog to fight or to be "mean", they should beat it around, feed it gunpowder, and "teach" it to fight by using "bait" animals like little kittens and pups. You would think they would realize that those "training methods" would only make the dog weak and fearful, but hey, the HSUS told them that's what pit bull owners do.

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exercised on a rope so that if they pass out from exhaustion they will pay with their lives..

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I'm not sure what you're talking about here... do you mean exercising while tied, or do you mean hanging from a springpole as exercise? If it's the former, some people have no choice but to exercise their dogs on-leash or on tieout chains/cables, better that than to have the dog suffer from lack of exercise. If it's the latter, the dogs aren't being forced to hang there, they do it because they like it. Or is there some new "training tactic"?

I do feel that the way APBTs are treated and their living situation can affect how they behave, but in NO way does it ever surpass a dog's natural temperament. I've said this probably hundreds of times, but that's why you can have a dog who's been beaten, starved, set on fire, etc, and STILL loves people.... compared to a dog who's been nothing but a much loved housepet all their life, and snags one of the neighborhood kids while walking down the street one day. One dog is stable... one dog is not, as you can see, it happens regardless of how they were raised and treated.

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posted 11-05-2003 12:36 PM         

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Goob I believe ladybug was referring to the dogs who are chained to certain objects to build muscels.
The debate on whether or not the tortures this breed goes through being publicized is a call on to do or not to do.
When I hear someone talking negatively about pitties I just remind them that in the 1940's APBT's were americas nanny. Horrible that the media can influence the fate of this breed

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posted 11-05-2003 07:00 PM         

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Most pitbull owners know that they don't need to starve and treat their dogs cruelly for them to fight as it is in their nature to be like that. Like Goob said they LIKE to get involved with fights as it is what they were bred to do. My dog Chief recently had a fight with the next-door neighbours rottweiler after he dug a hole under the fence. Some of you will rememeber the fight with the labrador a few weeks back. While we were trying to seperate Chief and the rottie I realised how much he loved to fight. As he copped a flogging off the rottweiler and had blood everywhere on his face, he wouldn't stop! Even after the rottie had enough, Chief was still going for the throat and leg to get a good hold. I have no doubt that if they weren't seperated Chief would have kept going until the rottie was on the ground either dead or close to, and at the end all Hercules (the rottie) was trying to do was get away from him. Now I've had to cement all along the fence line so it dosen't happen again.

anyway back to the topic, anyone who beats, starves or mistreats an animal is one in a million as far as I'm concerned and it's just people making up stories like that to make the breed more feared and hated to the general public!

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posted 11-05-2003 09:54 PM         

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There ARE tons of people out there who mistreat animals... but I'm not about to blame EVERY temperament problem EVERY dog has on bad upbringing, bad treatment, lack of socialization, etc. There ARE bad dogs out there, and when those bad dogs end up with irresponsible, ignorant, or otherwise "bad" owners, it only makes for disaster. Luckily, the number of "bad" dogs is relatively small compared to the normal ones, which explains why you're more likely to be killed by lightning than by a dog of any breed.

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