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HOTTPITS New Member Posts: 3 |
posted 10-27-2003 08:17 PM
what the youngest u can breed a pit .i also want to no hw mny time can she go in heat untils she has pups. IP: Logged |
goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 10-27-2003 09:04 PM
A bitch needs to be at least 2 yrs old to ensure that she is completely mature before breeding. A male needs to be at least 1 1/2 yrs old, preferably 2 yrs also before being bred for the same reason. This would put most females at their third or fourth heat, but that's the last thing you should be considering when you're thinking of breeding a dog. The following are things that should be considered before even THINKING about breeding a dog... First, all the breeding stock should be registered with a reputable registry. There was a list of various registries in another post, but two best known reputable registries are the United Kennel Club and ADBA. Then, the stock should be proven in some sort of work, or in conformation shows. Since APBTs are supposed to be working dogs, they SHOULD be proven in WORKing, like weight pull, or the like, but it's also important that they have correct conformation. All breeding stock should be tested for the following genetic diseases (parenthesis are groups that will analyze and list the results): There are other health problems which are genetic, but either cannot be tested for, or are easily diagnosed without professional tests. Dogs with Allergies should not be bred. Dogs that have or had generalized Demodectic mange as pups should not be bred, as this is a sign of a weak immune system. In addition to all the health concerns, temperament also needs to be considered. Dogs with shy, nervous, aggressive, overly dominant, or unpredictable temperaments should NOT be bred. All breeding stock should be able to pass either a CGC test or Temperament Test. Breeding stock should also be checked for doggy STDs before bred. Some of those diseases are fatal to dogs, and can be passed to pups or even to humans handling the pups after whelp. Here are some links to direct you to more information: OFA website: http://www.offa.org/ PennHIP website: http://www.vet.upenn.edu/research/centers/pennhip/ CERF website: http://www.vet.purdue.edu/~yshen/cerf.html Hip dysplasia: http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medical/medical-info.02.html#HD More links on HD and Elbow Dysplasia: http://www.workingdogs.com/doc0090.htm Luxating Patellas: http://www.pawfectchihuahuas.com/LuxatingPatella.html PRA: http://members.tripod.com/cockerpages/progress.htm Heart disorders: http://www.cah.com/library/cardiac.html Thyroid imbalances: http://www.mirage-samoyeds.com/thyroidofa.htm#background A site that lists genetic disorders by breed: http://www.siriusdog.com/genetic.htm Info on deafness, white dogs, and BAER testing: http://www.deafdogs.org/faq/ CDA: http://www.italiangreyhound.org/cda.html Allergies: http://www.k9web.com/dog-faqs/medical/canine-allergies.html Demo: http://www.geocities.com/schlosser44/Demodex.html CGC test site: http://akc.org/love/cgc/index.cfm TT site: http://atts.org/ Those are just some basic things to do before you breed. IP: Logged |
Ahkahna Member Posts: 93 |
posted 10-28-2003 05:58 AM
Another thing to consider is this... There are more than enough pit bull puppies to go around AS IS. Why not fix your dog. I don't remember the numbers, but thousands of pits are euthanized every year (I'm sure it's more), and thousands of them go to bad homes because people are constantly breeding these animals. Instead of breeding, how about you let people save the ones that already need a home rather than create more that could just get thrown away? I'm not trying to be rude, but I'm tired of seeing people say they want to breed their dogs when there are more than enough that are living in shelters and need a family as is. IP: Logged |
Meka Member Posts: 114 |
posted 10-28-2003 10:05 AM
Hey. I agree with the last message. I can understand breeding Pits, but there are so many! Just look at it......you see tv shows all of the time where Pits go into shelters & are immediately put down. They are fought, mistreated, & abused, more than any other breed of dog in the world. I love them, but I wouldn't breed them, for many reasons. If you want to, that is up to you. You can breed them as early as 6 months, when they have their first heat, but the best bet (as the 1st message states) is to wait until they are 2 years old. Pits tend to mature slower than other breeds of dog. You can stunt a female's growth by constant breeding. Anyway, I have 6 dogs. 3 are Pits. My male Pit is 85 lbs with a 23 inch head. We just had him neutered the 3rd week in October. My other 2 Pits are his pups. I didn't breed him. The guy I got him from had bred him, & he gave me the last 2 pups. They are only 8 weeks old, & not spayed yet. As for my other 3 dogs, all are spayed & neutered. I plan on having the 2 pups spayed before they come into heat for the 1st time (before they turn 6 months old). Good luck with your dogs! IP: Logged |
benny boy Member Posts: 392 |
posted 10-28-2003 10:36 AM
i have a ? in the last post Meka was saying that he planned on having his pups spayed before having their first heat. is that a factor that will change how the dog turns out. i'm just asking because i have a female about 5-6 mo old(has not yet had her first heat), and i've just been trying to decide on a good time to get her fixed. also why do some people say that's it's better to let a dog reach physical maturity before they are altered? IP: Logged |
Meka Member Posts: 114 |
posted 10-29-2003 09:18 AM
Benny. What's up? It doesn't change ANYTHING to have a female dog altered before their first heat. I always heard that it stunted their growth, if you did it before they had matured. BUT, now, even the vets will tell you that isn't true. A dog is proven healthier if altered before their first heat. It absolutely will not change a THING about the dog. It will just keep them from having pups! There temperament, behavior, everything will stay the same. This also keeps them from fighting (or fighting as much). IP: Logged |
neek Member Posts: 291 |
posted 10-29-2003 03:06 PM
Breeding dogs is a costly and sometimes unrewarding experience. Inexperienced mothers can sometimes turn on the pups with devastating results!! It happened to me. Also, many other things can go wrong. PLEASE leave the breeding of Pits to the registered breeders as they know what they are doing. Sorry HOTTPITS. IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 01-30-2004 03:23 PM
Hello: I have to tell you this! I have been involved in animal rescue for about 7 years now. I specialize in Pitbull Rescue I don't know if people are aware of this ~~~ but pitbulls are the number one dog across the United States to be euthanized daily. So many people get them for the wrong reasons. We try so hard to find them good homes, they are NOT EASY TO PLACE. On the average, 85% of pitbulls/American Staffordshire Terriers, as well as pitmixes get euthanized!!! What is their crime??? Please SPAY AND NEUTER YOUR DOGS DO NOT BREED, SAVE LIVES~~~~ DO NOT CREATE MORE HAVOC ON THE DOGS ALREADY NEEDING DESPERATE HOMES, ITS NOT FAIR!!! THE LAST THING WE NEED IS MORE PITBULL PUPPIES CREATED BY BACK YARD BREEDERS!!! Let the experts handle that!!! IP: Logged |
jenny052601 Member Posts: 80 |
posted 01-30-2004 08:45 PM
I think the statistics are something like only 1 in 600 pit bulls gets a home and the rest are euthenized. Think about it. Jenny IP: Logged |
shanean Member Posts: 43 |
posted 01-31-2004 01:00 PM
You want to start breeding and you don't even know when the time is right?SCARY...Since you haven't done any harm yet why don't you go have a talk with your vet ask what risks you could be exposing your dog to,not to mention the money you're looking at spending.If your dogs don't have papers and are not well breed they are a dime a dozen Don't believe that look in your local paper.If you care about your dog don't risk her life. IP: Logged |
MyPetTherapyDog Member Posts: 157 |
posted 01-31-2004 02:51 PM
In RI alone in 2002, (The SMALLEST STATE) 3,862 pit bulls were euthanized in shelters. 78% of those dogs were put down simply because NO ONE wanted to ADOPT THEM!!!!! Only 9% were considered vicious. THIS IS NOTHING SHORT OF AN EPIDEMIC!!!! In most shelters pitbulls/pitmixes/American Staffordshire Terriers are CONSIDERED UNADOPTABLE REGUARDLESS of their TEMPERAMENT!!! Please LISTEN DON'T BACK YARD BREED!!!!!!! IP: Logged |
akooker Member Posts: 18 |
posted 02-02-2004 09:41 PM
Alot of people want to breed their dogs and do not realize the harm.I myself originally wanted to breed my two pitbulls,however my female is 5 yrs old now and my male is 4 yrs old and i would have loved to see their babies,but will never breed them now,because i truly love this breed and now realize what a problem overbreeding is.Even if you try to get them all wonderful homes,you never know what could happen to those puppies in the future.Please think again and do not breed your dog.And a message to MEEKA,you sound like you know what you are talking about,except for when you said that he could breed the dog at 6 months,DO NOT DO THAT it could be very hazardous to your dog's health!!!That will surely stunt her growth she is just a baby herself,if you do breed wait till 2 yrs of age.Please listen to what everyone is saying and do not breed,we need to save the ones on this earth now before we create more! IP: Logged |
Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 02-04-2004 05:42 AM
Just curious... Why do you want to know how young they can be to breed them??? Any responsible owner wouldn't breed, unless they are already proven, up to the standards and have a COMPLETE set of tests and come out clear on all of them. They should wait until at least 2 1/2-3 yrs....that should be the up most earliest, a dog can not be proven before that. They are not fully grown until then, and honestly, you can't really tell how "good" a dog is until its fully matured. Good luck. IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 02-04-2004 05:20 PM
Please note as an FYI - this is an old thread from last October Thanks IP: Logged |
JJ Luchiano New Member Posts: 7 |
posted 02-06-2004 03:49 PM
You really need to know what ur breeding. What bloodlines are ur pits running? What is your goal for breeding? You need to have your dogs established either as game, weight pull, show, etc. IP: Logged |
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