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ReDnOzEr
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From:Texas
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posted 09-30-2003 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReDnOzEr     Edit/Delete Message
Hello Everyone, ive been reading for about a month now. Im currentlly now owned by a female 4 month old rednose pitty named Cinammon. She is light brown, with green eyes. She was given to me by my girlfriend. Ive had success with Boxers and rottwillers, having them as pups. My question is about dicipline. Today i left my dog in the house for about 1 hour. She was in her crate, but managed to escape. She ran around the house unsupervised. Peed and pooped everywhere. I guess marking territory. I was wondering if pits can be broken of bad habbits, like being left alone indoors and not destroying everthing they can reach. It was too late to punish her beacuse she had no idea what she had done wrong. Anything would be great Guys.
Love this site. Learned alot.
Thanks Vic

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goob
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posted 09-30-2003 10:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
She may need time to adjust to being crated. Two ways you might try....
First one: leave the door open all the time, with a comfy bed and bone/toy she likes in there. She'll probably go in there to snooze at some point, and when she does, praise. Once she's comfortable with being in there, try shutting her in for just a minute or so while she's busy eating or chewing a bone/toy. Slowly progress up to longer times. This one works for most dogs.

Second: If the first one doesn't work, this one may... Put comfy bed and toys/bone(s) in there, but keep the door CLOSED. She should start investigating, just ignore her. Get her dinner ready, put it in the crate as well, close the door again. Wait a bit and let her see what she's missing out on by not being in the crate, then calmly open the door and let her get in. Let her eat with the door open. After a few times of this, shut the door on her as she eats, but open it before she's even completely done. Slowly work up to her staying in there for a while after she eats, and going in at other times for rewards like stuffed kongs, biscuits, bones, etc.

Either way, some other things that might help are:
- giving her rewards for getting in the crate
- plenty of exercise before putting her in there (you know what they say about tired dogs)
- putting her in there for short periods of time when you're home to get her used to being in there, worknig up to longer lengths
- getting all excited and happy when you put her IN the crate, but not making a big deal when you let her out

How did she get out of the crate? If she flipped the latch or just managed to wiggle the door open, buy a couple cheap aluminum carabiners (the kind you can get from Walmart and the like) and use two or three to hold the door shut (one top corner, one bottom corner, one middle). If she's pushing the sides out or up, first check to make sure you put it together right. If done properly, the sides shouldn't slide up, but it's easy to miss something and not set them right. If everything is in order and she's just being a savage, buy a pack of those plastic zip ties and put one every 3rd-5th space to keep the crate together. If she chews or breaks them, you can get brass/metal clippy-type-things from some hardware stores that will hold them together, but it can be a bit more expensive if you need to reinforce the entire crate (still not too bad, especially when compared to new household things and/or vet bills for blocked pup).

A young puppy (especially a young pit bull puppy ) is going to tear things up if left alone. If you don't want to/can't crate her, try to find a room you can block her off in (either by closing the door or babygating it off), and make safe for her.

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ynot2k
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posted 10-02-2003 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ynot2k     Edit/Delete Message
Sir:
If you owned other dogs i hope you didnt crate any of them. I got my pit at age of 2 weeks. Most people said he will die because he was premature. At 3 weeks he already knew not to pee inside but sometimes just couldnt hold him self. At one month old he already knew 2 tricks and di all his biz outside. Some trainers may insisit on crates but i dont. The way i trained every single one of my dogs even cats is to put em on a leach and leave them outside at a very early age. Obviously it has to be summer and warm for this to be possible. Pits dont like crates. They can only sleep in crates. A crated dog will not be 100% friendly to everyone. If you own a house dont crate your dog. If your dog bites a person you dont want to have to put up your house as collateral. Let your dog play with everyone no exceptions. He will grow up to be super friendly.

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True_Pits
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posted 10-02-2003 05:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
ynot2k-
Crate training is one of the best things you can do with your dog.
I would never leave a uppy outside like that. I would rather have my dog inside secure in a crate, or loose in the house once it can be trusted, rather than left outside where it can be stolen, poisened, get loose, ect.


"A crated dog will not be 100% friendly to everyone."

I would very much disagree, ALL of my dogs are 100% friendly to everyone. They love everyone a crate doesn't have a damaging affect on them, why should it when they are naturally den animals and feel secure in a crate. I crate train my dogs. I may crate them at night, on the way to vet visits at shows where it is MANDITORY. I wouldn't want to go to a show and have a dog mess in its crate or have a dog freak out if it has to go crated on trip.

Crates are wonderful things for almost any dog. Dogs are den animals and many pups feel safe in the crate. Much safer then being left outisde.

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ReDnOzEr
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posted 10-02-2003 05:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for ReDnOzEr     Edit/Delete Message
Hmm im concerned now. I owned a boxer and he too was crated. Im just concerned because my pit is very much stubborn. She is perhaps the smartest pup i have ever owned. She dose several tricks too. She is shown around too alot. I take her everywhere. It freaks people out that my pit drives with me in thor front passenger seat. Dunno if that is legal, i havent been pulled over. Shes just stubborn. She wont whine or anything shell just relive herself. Shell poop outside though.
She gonna see a vet friday for sure, im concerned it migght be an infection.....

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Jas

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posted 10-02-2003 07:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
ynot2k
i'd be careful about cautioning people not to use crates and telling them that crating will make them not 100% friendly to everyone. I highly disagree - a crate, if used properly will NOT make a dog less friendly. That has more to do with upbringing, socialization, temperament and the dog on a whole. If someone can not constantly supervise their dog/puppy (whether they are at work, or at home) and leave their dog out the dog could get seriously injured. Especially a puppy who is bound to chew on an electric cord or a toxic plant, knock something over etc... I know plenty of pits who are crated and behave just fine.

OTOH if crating is abused/overused this could cause a dog to mentally destruct.

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bella_rena
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From:glendale,wi. US
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posted 10-06-2003 06:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bella_rena     Edit/Delete Message
I have a 1 yr old red nosed named bella. She has never been crated. I did however keep her in a room in my home that had no furniture at the time. Only while I was gone of course. At 6 months of age, my mother had her for the weekend, went out for a few hours and left her out with her new furniture. I was amazed to hear that she had not touched a single thing. So, from that point on she has had the complete run of my home while I was gone. She amazingly has been an angel. Although she just recently was broken of the habit of chewing on our back door(which was started by her father) which now needs to be replaced. Every dog is different though. Her father had to be crated. He was a handful. My botfriend would put him in his crate and by the time he got home he would be in his crate but the crate would be on the other side of the room He is a great dog now. Don't underestimate the pitty's intelligence. You said she didn't know she was doing anything wrong. You MUST let her know and be stern otherwise you will continue to be owned by your little girl. I'm not talking about hitting your dog either.Good luck.

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