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From:fort riley. ks. usa
Registered: Sep 2003

posted 09-06-2003 09:40 PM         

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Hey every one I got this friend and her mom I think most of you here will like her and want more people like her. She has a pitbull name titus and he is a red nose and he is one of the most friendlyest dogs you will probobly ever meet you walk in the house and his tale is waggin and is happy to see you and you can tell by the look in his eyes that he is happy and I started to talk to my friends mom and she says that he jumps 6 foot fences when he gets lose to play with the neighbor dog and they get scared of what kind of breed he is and they all freak out and she says that he won't hurt them and just wants to play there like no no he will attack my dog and she told alls I'm trying to do is porve a point and that is that it all depends how you raise your pitbull wich is all true but look what the radio, news and breeders and trainers have done to the breed they make the whole entire world afraed of the breed and they don't even try to get to know the breed.

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From:Wonewoc, Wi. USA
Registered: Aug 2003

posted 09-13-2003 08:08 AM         

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I agree with you 100%. We have 2 pitt bulls, and you should see the reaction we get for having "such dangerous dogs". We have children, too, and our dogs are EXTREMELY friendly. All the bull s**t reputation pitt bulls have is all from talk. It is not the dogs that is bad, it is the occasional owner that treats the dog bad, which, in turn, makes the dog mean. A friend of ours, raised his pitt bulls to be mean, now, the only person that can go anywhere near them, is the owner, they will attack anyone else. People don't understand, raising any kind of dog, is alot like raising a child...if you raise them right, they will turn out as nice as you make them, if you treat them bad, they will turn out as mean as you make them. It's common sense. However, any dog will defend them selves if attacked. If your friend's mom lets her dog out to play, and he attacks a dog in defending himself, however, she should probably be prepared for a law suit. It seems to be a no win situation. good luck. You're not alone.

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From:Everett Wa
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posted 12-01-2003 10:34 AM         

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I agree with you 100% it is all on how you raise the dog but some people don't understand that my goal is own a pitbull but for now i just like to study them that's one of my hobbies

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From:lewisville, texas, united states
Registered: Oct 2003

posted 12-01-2003 01:29 PM         

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i disagree with you guys 100% it's not ALL how you raise the dog. genetics and instinct also play a pretty big role. lots of pits are dog aggressive naturally, even if they're raised in a loving environment. and in my opinion the lady who allows her dog to jump over the fence isn't a very responsible owner. sounds like she needs a taller fence.

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From:Brisbane, Australia
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posted 12-01-2003 01:42 PM         

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I disagree as well, allowing her dog to jump a fence is irresponsible even if he is friendly. Granted her dog may be friendly but if i am walking my dogs on leads down the road for exercise and her dog jumped the fence and came up to us, it would be all out war. I should have the right to know that whilst i am walking my dogs are safe from dogs straying and in my backyard my dogs should not have to put up with other dogs jumping the fence. Friendly or not!
I have amstaffs and staffords and 1 APBT.

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From:Dallas, Texas
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posted 12-01-2003 03:28 PM         

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I don't have a pit, but I would not want to be walking down the street with my dog, and see ANY kind of dog jumping over a fence! That lady DOES need to heighten her fence! I had a run in once with a dog who was loose, and it wasn't pretty! Well, now I have a new dog who is nicer and more socialized, but still. When my mom was young, she lived in Diball, and no-one had fences. Well, she got to see the new German Shepherd in the neighborhood rip into and kill a little dachsund, that kind've scarred her for life, and she doesn't like loose dogs at all!

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From:Australia
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posted 12-01-2003 03:35 PM         

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I also disagree, we had a pure bred female APBT who we raised around childen, she never bit our children but she did bite another child although I didn't personally see it happen, I think the child did something to her as he is not a nice little boy. Anyway she was raised lovingly but if a stranger tried to pat her she would try and bite them so we had to muzzle her when we walked her. I am not saying that all pitbulls are like that and my girl nellie is super friendly towards people but Benny boy's right, the instinct is in them and its the owners responsibility to make sure they are not put into a situation where they can get into trouble. As for the fence, it is your friend's mum's responsibilty to make sure her dog cannot jump her fence, maybe add another half-metre or so to the height.

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From:TX, USA
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posted 12-02-2003 02:04 PM         

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She has already helped prove there are MANY irresponsible dog owners out there and that she is just one of the many irresponsible pit owners. If the dog harms anyone or any other animal it will come back on all of us. But those kind of owners don't care. People of ALL breeds need to learn to keep their dogs in their own yards and obey the leash laws, it so annoying when loose dogs run up to you. I almost forgot last week I came close to probably being bitten by a loose dog!
If people were more respobsible with their animals then maybe i could get Home Owners Insurance!

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From:arlington,TX u.s.a.
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posted 12-02-2003 02:59 PM         

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Ive owned,handled, babysat, and raised countless pitbull over the years and Im certain of two things.
One is that a pitty should NEVER attemt to bite a child,no matter what the child does to him.My son at around 4 and 5 really could put the hurt on my pits, pulling ears and biting them and so on,and they always just acted like they loved it, or that he wasnt there.A pit that has snarled or snapped at a child has proven that he has it in him and can never be truly trusted.
An old freind of mine used to have a beautiful golden-brindle pit named Scratch,who was a five time winner and producer of several winners(hence,he was a fighting dog).'Ol Rob(my friend),would punch that dog in the ribs as hard as he could and that dog would go rollin' and then come runnin back for more,tail-wagging!They would do this over and over,for fun,and to be honest I didnt like it but it serves to illustrate just how easy going a pit should be.Scratch was also a gentle babysitter,and would let even strange kids swarm all over him!
The other thing I am certain of is that occasionally, just as with people, a dog is born that is just a creep, and no amount of training can help it!
The woman with the fence jumping dog doesnt need to raise her fence,she just needs to train her dog.If a pit wants to get out,it will scale a 20 footer, if it has to. I have trained all of my dogs to stay within the limits of my front lawn,no fence(I dont leave them alone).It can be done!

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From:Australia
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posted 12-02-2003 10:34 PM         

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Well my pitbull did! As I said she was lovingly raised, never abused, so why did she bite a child?? Why has she bitten people who have tried to pat her?? Why did she kill 5 of her pups?? Chemical imbalance in the brain?? Or was something genetically wrong with her?? Who knows!! She went to a property with lots of room, no other dogs or kids and she is very happy there. She didn't bite the kid hard, just nipped him but I reckon he deserved it and if parents don't teach their kids to be animal friendly then they deserve everything they get when they are nasty to an animal!! I'm sure alot of people will disagree with me about that! I don't, and never will blame the dog for biting him as she never bit one of my own children, or me or my boyfriend!!

Dogs can sense cruelty and if I was an dog and was treated nastily I would bite too!!

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From:Austin ,Texas, USA
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posted 12-02-2003 11:38 PM         

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My dog is very very easy going. In fact, when I first got him I didn't allow him to bite b/c I had read that I wasn't supposed to. Anyways, now that he's about 2 years old we play with him quite a bit and he actually likes playing pretty rough. Never biting, but he kinda likes to be "pushy" but tugging hard on a rope, standing up on his back legs and growling etc. but he is always playing and if he accidentally get's me too hard he knows b/c he all the sudden stops and starts wagging his tail furiously and his ears drop like he's in trouble. Actually to be honest, I didn't want to treat him rough at first b/c I feared that I might make him mean, but after we got to know each others personalities we play rough and love.
My dog also is insanely smart!! When little kids come around (my roomates girlfriends daughter) he gets really excited but knows to play soft. It's actually really cool to watch. Any accidental steps on his paws or accidental eye poke etc wont provoke any aggression in him, he just thinks its all in good fun and comes back for more. Not saying that I don't think that there aren't cases when people are cruel and provoke the attacks, but I'm simply saying that atleast in my case, I think my dog would die before retaliating against anyone!
However, about a month ago we had a bum wander into our front bushes and was changing clothes. Drake saw him and almost jumped through the window he was so angry, so who knows. I just know that he seems to know exactly when and when not to show aggression and is the best/smartest dog I've ever had.

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