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BIGPIT
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From:JAckson, MS USA
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posted 07-18-2003 04:15 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for BIGPIT     Edit/Delete Message
Which registry have more weight with you guys and why? I've seen UKC advertised more than CKC.

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desertAPBT
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posted 09-30-2003 08:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for desertAPBT     Edit/Delete Message
CKC as in Continental Kennel Club? If yes they are crap! They will register any MUTT off the streets and that is no good!

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goob
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posted 09-30-2003 11:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for goob     Edit/Delete Message
There are two registries commonly known as "CKC" and two known as "UKC", so here's a rundown of some of the most common pit bull registries...

APBT only:
American Dog Breeders' Association (ADBA)- I think they were the second registry to accept APBTs, they are also considered reputable, though there seem to be more cases of paper hanging (false papers) than in the UKC. The gamier looking dogs are preferred in ADBA conformation shows.

All American Dog Registry (AADR)- Registers dogs of unknown lineage, with NO proof that they are in fact, APBTs. NOT reputable.

All American Pit Bull Association (AAPBA)- Same as above. NOT reputable.

American Pit Bull Registry (APBR)- Same as above. This group even touts themselves as a way to get papers on rescue dogs. NOT reputable.


Multi-breed registries:
United Kennel Club (UKC)- The first kennel club to accept the APBT breed, a dog's parents must be registered for them to be registered. They also implement DNA-profiling on commonly used sires, and encourage it in others, this helps to ensure that dogs are from the lines breeders say they are. They are a reputable registry.

American Rare Breeds Association (ABRA)- Registers rare or uncommon breeds of dog. Not sure exactly WHY APBTs are included in that, but they seem to be a pretty reputable group from what I've seen/heard.

Continental Kennel Club (CKC also)- registers dogs by picture only, not even seeing them in person. That means that ANY dog that looks like an APBT to them can be registered as one. They also register mixed breeds, like the "designer" Cockapoos, etc. NOT a reputable registry.

World Kennel Club (WKC)- Also registers dogs with no proof as to whether or not they are APBTs. NOT reputable.

Univeral Kennel Club, Inc (UKCi)- Same as above. NOT reputable.

Dog Registry of America (DRA)- Same as above. NOT reputable.

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desertAPBT
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posted 10-01-2003 07:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for desertAPBT     Edit/Delete Message
All American Dog Registry (AADR)- Registers dogs of unknown lineage, with NO proof that they are in fact, APBTs. NOT reputable.


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HMM that is odd. I dont agree. I mean he wont even register dogs over 70 pounds. I believe this is a good registry just not as known as the ADBA or UKC. That is only my oinion as I know the registry well.

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Angie
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posted 10-16-2003 09:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Angie     Edit/Delete Message
A lot of people that I know (if buying a pitbull) will only buy ADBA registered pitbulls.

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Jas

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posted 10-16-2003 07:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
The CKC can also stand for Canadian Kennel Club, which is the main, well known and reptuable KC for Canada.

It is comparable to the AKC.

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JJ Luchiano
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posted 11-10-2003 03:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JJ Luchiano     Edit/Delete Message
ADBA and UKC are the most common and reputable that I've seen too.

I went to an AADR show yesterday in Seguin, TX and I wasn't very impressed. The even was really unorganized. Most ppl there didn't even know what bloodlines/pedigree there pits were. There were even pits there that had NO papers at all. I hope the AADR gets better.

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Pit Lover
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posted 01-05-2004 12:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Pit Lover     Edit/Delete Message
The American Pit Bull Registry is reputable. This registry is the only Pit registry that has taken an active stance in promoting the Pit Bull in a positive manner. Their registration process is just as valid as any other registry and their tracking is the most advanced in the industry. They even provide free updates as a Pit "Family" grows. All Pits in their registry are visually depicted as well. Saying someone is not legitimate just because their Pits parents were not registered is simply an ignorant statement. Registration has nothing to do with purity, and if a Pit is obviously a Pit why should it not be able to enjoy the privilege of registration simply because its parents were not registered even if this means it was adopted. Check them out yourself at www.AmericanPitBullRegistry.com if you still think Pits are for fighting or you do not believe in their cause don't join. If you do believe in promoting the positives of the Pit Bull breed and its ownership the answer will be obvious who supports you and your ownership. Come on people we have to stop thinking of the Pit Bull as a fighter. This type of mentality will drive it into extinction. Just look at how prolific Breed Specific Laws are already and then read some of the literature of the other registries some people still call legitimate.

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True_Pits
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posted 01-05-2004 01:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for True_Pits     Edit/Delete Message
"and if a Pit is obviously a Pit"

You can't tell if a Pit is a PURE Pit just by looking at it.

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Samsintentions
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posted 01-05-2004 01:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
I'm going to have to disagree with the statement that CKC will register anything. They won't. We had to take several steps for them to register a pup of ours. He came out with Lesser tan on his forelegs, and that created a problem with them.

To me it didn't seem like a big deal, some Dalmations have less spots...
My pup had all the breed standard could ask for, plus a pedigree to back it up and DNA tests....

Still they gave us crap about it, I've been looking into the WKC "world kennel club" does anyone know anything about them???
reputable???

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MikeIPK
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posted 01-05-2004 07:40 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for MikeIPK     Edit/Delete Message
APBR is a reputable source of lineage? What they do may be fine and dandy and yes we all should promote this breed in a positive way. I would have to dispute the fact they are a reputable registry for lineage iformation. If the parents are not registered as APBT's, They are not registered for a reason. the most likely reason is they are crossed somewhere. Just because it looks like an APBT does not mean it is an ABPT. That IS the problem we are having with BSL. The dogs are very hard to ID as PURE!

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chickee
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posted 01-05-2004 10:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for chickee     Edit/Delete Message
AADR is reputable. An all pit bull registry not unlike the ADBA. Their shows are FUN. Their nationals are even better. Gamedoggers from all over the US go to the Nationals. And members include some very well known gamedog breeders. CKC (Continental Kennel Club, NOT the Canadian Kennel Club) sucks the big one and any dog registered with them isn't worth much to anyone except their owners. Not that they aren't worth anything, but when you are talking legit, breeding, lineage, etc., those papers would be considered a joke to any serious fancier.

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