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caliqu
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From:Britton, Michigan, United States
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posted 06-17-2003 06:26 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caliqu     Edit/Delete Message
My pitbull is 10 years old. He can be a little agressive at times. Once when he was about a year old he chewed up my couch I swear it looked like it snowed in my living room. That's why I don't let him stay loose in my house anymore. So since that incident he stays in my backroom where I have a child proof gate so he can see me anytime. He stays back there with my chihuahua named pete, my pits name is harley.
Also my cat will go back there and lay with him at times. The 2 dogs will bicker sometimes, it seems as if the 6 yr old chihuahua always runs the roost. They get along pretty well together. My pit will bark which is his way of talking to me when I ask him if he wants a treat. He is the greatest (my son) is what I refer to him as that I have ever had. I couldn't ask for any better of a pet. I believe it's how you raise them on how they turn out and it sickens me how people fight them and make them mean.

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katkrazy
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posted 06-17-2003 10:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
I agree - it truly does depend on how you raise them up. I used to have a pit that I actually rescued from a breeder that fought pits when I lived in Florida. He must have had about 13 or so pits with their own individual runs with all kinds of toys and ropes to swing from to make them agressive. Than he had one chained up to a tree on the side of his house that was severely abused and used to train the other pits. He had no shelter and a filthy old bucket with moldy water that he couldn't get to because his chain was so twisted up. So, about 3am one Saturday morning a mysterious person showed up with bolt cutters and took him to the vet and on to her home. I had "Astro" for close to 8 years, he was a darn good dog and very protective of me and my home. He never did sink a tooth into anything but his toys. Sadly, I lost him to pancreatic cancer and to this day I still can't even look at another pit with bursting into tears. Thanks for the good memories.

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Freedom
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posted 06-18-2003 11:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"I believe it's how you raise them on how they turn out and it sickens me how people fight them and make them mean."

I'm sorry but raising your APBT only has a small part on how your dog will react to other animals when mature. This breed was developed to be animal aggressive, so it is in their blood. This is an animal aggressive breed and every book on the breed will tell you that. It is genetic in them and the majority of APBTs ARE animal aggro. You could raise your APBT from 6 weeks with a house full of other dogs, and the dog could be 2 years old and be fine and then one day a fight could break out and the APBT will cause severe damage, even death. My male was raised and socialized with other animals ALL the time and he IS animal aggro. It doesn't surprise me though because the breed is supposed to not be very tolerable of other animals. Socializing does help cut back on the APBT to not act like a total fool in the presence of other dogs, but a lot of the times even the site of another dog will send an APBT up the wall even IF they were raised with other dogs.

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katkrazy
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posted 06-19-2003 08:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
I agree Freedom - they are an animal agressive breed naturally - its just how the breed is. But don't you think there is a difference between the behavior of one who is brought up in a loving home and treated with respect and has had nothing else but loving attention compared to one who is kept outside chained up or caged and has owners who abuse and torment it or train it to fight or attack other people and animals. If you take the two of them to a public place and let them off leash - which one is more likely to attack another animal or person.

I'm not disagreeing with you at all by any means - but there is a difference in their behavior even though they both are the same breed and both are "animal agressive" - what do you think?

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caliqu
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posted 06-19-2003 02:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caliqu     Edit/Delete Message
You know we talk about aggressive dogs. My sister got a shih tzu about a couple months ago and he is so aggressive around my pit bull he'll jump all over his head and goes crazy very hyper dog. My harley never jumped on people or bit on people like this dog does. Actually even my vet says that my dog is different than what he has seen or heard about pit bulls he'll give a kiss meaning he'll lick ya but he just really likes people he is a people dog he likes to show affection. He will try to go under your leg and flip it up so it sits on his back so your leg will lay on top of his back and he just stands there. You know I do know he is aggressive and he can be dominating too that's a word I'd describe him as also. He likes to take his nose and jab me in the ankle like he's sniffing at the same time he pokes you with his nose and he can be strong at times. I haven't figured that one out yet on what he gets out of doing that cause I've seen him do it to my cat on occasions toowhen he sniffs her head.

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caliqu
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posted 06-19-2003 02:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caliqu     Edit/Delete Message
DOES ANYONE KNOW HOW YOU CAN PUT YOUR PETS PICTURE ON HERE. I TRIED TO PASTE IT BUT IT DOESN'T SEEM TO WORK FOR ME. ANY INFORMATION WOULD BE SOOO APPRICIATIVE.
THANK YOU
CALIQU

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Freedom
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posted 06-21-2003 03:38 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"But don't you think there is a difference between the behavior of one who is brought up in a loving home and treated with respect and has had nothing else but loving attention compared to one who is kept outside chained up or caged and has owners who abuse and torment it or train it to fight or attack other people and animals."

Yes, but that's not what I am talking about. I am talking about their animal aggression, no matter how much socializing you do and no matter how much your dog is spoiled chances are he will more then likely be animal aggressive.

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caliqu
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posted 06-22-2003 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caliqu     Edit/Delete Message
You know the people that fight these dogs are just the most stupid people in the world they have no respect for the animal. I think some states have a limit on how many you can have in your household.

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katkrazy
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posted 06-23-2003 01:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
Freedom perhaps I am misunderstanding you - could you please explain to me what you mean by "animal agressive"
Do you mean that no matter what we do as APBT owners in raising our beloved pets, and no matter how much we spoil them and love on them - they could burst out and attack any creature human or animal at any moment with no warning?

Please explain because I don't want to mis-interpret what you are saying. Thanks
By the way - I agree caliqu - people who breed these animals to fight ought to be ashamed of themselves! There's no reason to do that to any animal - it's cruel.

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Freedom
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posted 06-24-2003 06:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
"Freedom perhaps I am misunderstanding you - could you please explain to me what you mean by "animal agressive"
Do you mean that no matter what we do as APBT owners in raising our beloved pets, and no matter how much we spoil them and love on them - they could burst out and attack any creature human or animal at any moment with no warning?"


How much have you researched this breed? How many responsible and knowledgable owners and breeders have you talked to? Do you not know what animal aggression is? Animal aggression is just that, aggressive towards other animals. HUMAN and ANIMAL aggression are NOT the same thing. APBTs are inherently animal aggressive. They were bred for this traight ever since the breed started being developed hundreds of years ago. Majority of APBTs ARE animal aggressive, there are some that aren't but those are few and far between. Just because your puppy gets along with other dogs and animals now, doesn't mean it still will 3 or 5 years from now.

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caliqu
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posted 06-25-2003 12:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for caliqu     Edit/Delete Message
My harley is 10 yrs old I've had him since he was a pup. He sleeps in the backroom with my chichuahua and my cat likes to rub up on him. She use to lay in the backroom with him but now the other dog is out there she doesn't cause it bothers her by wanting to play. I think it comes down to being a responsible owner on having a dog like that. For an irrisponsible person it can be too much of a dog. I mean there was a guy over here in my area that got attacked in his own house by someone that brought their dog to his house and wanted to fight his dog with this guys dog. The guy said no and the other guy hit him over the head and tried getting in too let the dogs fight. People are completly NUTS and this was someone this guy didn't know trying to get into his house.
I really don't know what this world is coming too.

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Louisiana_Pitbull
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posted 06-25-2003 12:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Louisiana_Pitbull     Edit/Delete Message
I agree that genetics do play a big part in the animal aggression that most APBT's have,but there way to teach your dog to maintain their temper.The way you treat and train you dog have a big part in how your dog will react to most things.

I just want to use one of my males for example.He comes from a very long line of champ. fighters.Knowing this I had him around other animals from the first day I got him.I have 9 pits,they all stay in the house and they all share the same yard.He is 3 1/2 years old ad he has never showed the first sign of animal aggression.(Do not get me wrong we do have a few grawles and snips,but that wouldhappen with any dog).My point is that it is not all genetics.With the right training for YOU and YOUR DOG,these tings can be controled

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katkrazy
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posted 06-25-2003 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
Freedom - again, why are you being so harsh. Don't even start to insult me or make me feel belittled in asking me how many books I've read, or have I researched the breed. If you read my original post in the first place you would see that I don't have a puppy. I had an adult APBT for 8 years that passed away from pancreatic cancer.
You talk about reading books and articles on the web all the time that educates you so much about APBT's "animal agression" - maybe you should start reading posts in their entireity before you open your mouth.

I was simply asking your opinion on what you think would happen in a certain situation based on the raising and caring a family gives to their APBT compared to another. And like always you spout back about the breed being "animal agressive" and dictate from whatever book you're reading. I asked your *opinion* on a situation. But, par for the course you avoid the question as always. Why don't you speak from your heart and mind and put down the encyclopedia.

To all others - sorry for being so crude and sounding mean, but I've had it with these kind of responses. We're here to ask questions and try to help each other or have conversations about different APBT issues we have. We are *not* here (at least I am not) to belittle or make harsh statements or make fun of people. I should not have to defend my opinion or be told that the way I am or think is wrong or be quized on whether or not I've read books about the breed of dog I owned. Thank you to those who have been kind to me.

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Freedom
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posted 06-25-2003 03:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
Quoting from a book? Not quite sweetheart. More like quoting from my own lifetime of experience with this breed. You asked my opinion and I gave it to you, whether you like it or not, I answered your question. I said ANIMAL aggression, you were the one that added human in there so it made me wonder if you knew the difference.

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katkrazy
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posted 06-26-2003 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katkrazy     Edit/Delete Message
Maybe I don't know the difference in your eyes, but I now have learned something from you Freedom and I thank you for it. I have always been told that if you don't have anything nice to say - don't say anything at all.

Now because of you Freedom, I have learned that there are people in this world that don't have that belief and I should have stopped while I was ahead and not drag myself down to your level. I have no more hard feelings and nothing but love for ya. Thank you for teaching me the reality of society. Best of luck to you and your endeavors and continue your stride to teach people about the pittbull.

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Freedom
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posted 06-26-2003 11:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Freedom     Edit/Delete Message
Quite Welcome katkrazy.

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RottyMommy

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posted 06-26-2003 04:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for RottyMommy     Edit/Delete Message
This thread is now closed! I will remind everyone that this is a friendly site to learn and ask questions about our pets or others. Avoid confrontational posts. You are welcome to start a new thread however please keep it civil there is no reason for harsh responses and please dont assume things about other people we dont know anyone on here. Keep it civil guys that is all where are asking. We have no issues with different opinions but pleas present your opinion maturely and respectively. Thank you

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