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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 03-27-2003 12:15 PM
Criminal Charges brought against Phoebus Blues Posted By: Lisa Jenkins/Full Moon Kennel They bought a puppy - Sandy - and had the woman who runs the store, Rene The procedure is considered cosmetic surgery that requires anesthesia, When the couple returned for their dog Feb. 8, they were stunned at her "She was in a cage and the floor was covered with blood," Jessica Holmes "There was blood on her head. She kept shaking and crying." Last week, Hampton police obtained arrest warrants against Schreiber, Schreiber left town before detectives had an opportunity to search her Authorities tracked Schreiber to Pinellas County, Fla., where she was Both Virginia charges are misdemeanors, punishable by as much as 12 months Had either dog died, the cruelty charge would be a felony, said Hampton It was unknown Monday whether Schreiber planned to return voluntarily or "We have the right to extradite for misdemeanors, but we rarely do because "But I consider this case fairly serious." Veterinarians in the area say they've been aware of medical complications About 21/2 years ago, Dr. John Freed, president of the Greater Peninsula Dr. Gary Farwell, another local veterinarian, says he sent letters Feb. 9 to Detectives started investigating Schreiber on March 15. They interviewed veterinarians who treated Daniel and Jessica Holmes' pit When the Holmes family bought Sandy, they said they trusted Schreiber. "We were naïve, but she said she had been doing this for 15 years and After picking up Sandy, Jessica Holmes drove the sickly pup to the Armistead "It wasn't too far away from death, within a few hours," Farwell said. Farwell cleaned the infected tissue and administered antibiotics. Sophia Holmes of Newport News - no relation to Jessica and Daniel - also Her dog is the other one Schreiber is accused of mistreating. "When I picked up the puppy the next day, there were splotches of dried After a week, Sophia Holmes took the dog to Warwick Animal Hospital in Dr. Paul Gustafson examined the pup. Both pit bulls are continuing to recover. Some veterinarians say the recent complaints about Schreiber aren't new. "About three years ago we received a complaint against this woman that she "The animal came in with excruciating pain. The ears had been crudely cut City officials as well as the Peninsula Society for the Prevention of A spokeswoman for the SPCA said the organization had no comment on the Commissioner of Revenue Ross Mugler confirmed that his office received a City records showed Schreiber obtained a business license on June 15, 2001. David Chernicky can be reached at 247-4743 or by e-mail at IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 03-27-2003 01:49 PM
Things like this blow my mind.I have been around pitbulls and other animals all my life and never once have I ever thought about doing something like that.That is the reason people go to school to be vet...For people like me that have no clue on how to do something like that.That b***h is crazy.I think some one needs to do to her,what she did to those poor babies.That woman makes me sick.... IP: Logged |
tybrax unregistered |
posted 03-27-2003 08:23 PM
HOW RIGHT YOU ARE PITBULL PRINCESS, THIS WOMEN NEEDS HER EARS CROPPED ,SUCH A SADISTIC CREATURE SHE IS , I HOPE THEY THROUGH THE BOOK AT HER, LOCK HER AWAY FOR GOOD. MAKES ME SO WILD. IP: Logged |
goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 03-27-2003 10:51 PM
I hope she gets a harsh punishment, she deserves it. This is an example as to why ear cropping and tail docking shouldn't be outlawed... when vets won't do it, the owners do it themselves (though in this case, maybe the person was just trying to save money ). And if poeople wouldn't buy from irresponsible breeders, then they wouldn't be making more pups that would get the "home job". Poor pups IP: Logged |
PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 03-28-2003 10:40 AM
As a breeder I can honestly say that I do not have my dogs ears cropped.All my dogs are natural and are very beautiful this way.I don't not have anything aginst it,as long it is done right(by a real vet). The woman in the above artical is why I do not trust people.My dogs are by far to important for me to just let anyone work on or with them. Plus,I don't have to much nice to say about the pitbull puppies owners.How could they just trust that lady with out doing some research on her.I guess some people just don't care for their animals like I do. IP: Logged |
shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 03-28-2003 11:36 AM
Hello everyone. This really made me mad when I viewed it. I never understood why people do this to their animals....they are so beautiful with their natural ears...I think it is very ugly to do this and also resembles fighting dogs because they used to crop the ears of fighting dogs so they wouldn't be torn in a fight. I see no point today in doing this as dog fighting is outlawed, strictly for cosmetic reasons, I guess. Where I found this topic it has been closed as they think the resporter has made a big deal outta nothing...can you believe it? I can't, I see nothing acceptable about a dog hours away from death. And just to let you know I got this where all these people are supposed to be the best APBT breeder and handlers in the US....I highly doubt it now... if they were so responsible with their dogs, then I'm sure that this person would have been reffered to a vet and not a person at a dog food store lol IP: Logged |
Russ unregistered |
posted 03-28-2003 03:50 PM
It takes away so much of the dogs expressions and personality. I can see removing dew claws as ok, but cropping and docking is a no go in my opinion. IP: Logged |
goob Member Posts: 552 |
posted 03-31-2003 06:16 PM
This is a little off the original topic, but here's my thoughts on "cosmetic" surgery for dogs... Ear cropping- first, most dog fighters prefer natural ears on their dogs... the reason? They'd rather the opponent gets a mouthful of their dog's ear than a mouthful of their head and a tooth deep inside their "open" ear canal. The only real function ear cropping has today is for dogs that are going to be working in conditions where they're likely to tear their ears, like boar dogs and some "guardian" type breeds (mostly the mastiffy breeds), and as a "preventive" surgery. Other than that, it's pretty much just a cosmetic thing based on personal preference. I will say though that a torn ear can be a huge pain, they bleed A LOT, and sometimes they take forever to heal, with the risk that they'll end up tearing again anyway. I doubt that I'd ever have a dog cropped (probably the only way would be if it was going to be in a situation as described above), but at the same time, I won't condemn a good, caring, responsible home/owner if they choose to do so to their dog (not saying that anyone here is condemning, but I have seen it in real life and other places online). Docking- if it's done properly, on a 2-4 day old pup, there seems to be minimal pain, the pups forget a few minutes (sometimes seconds), and they're completely healed within a few days. There are some breeds of dog that have really thin, bony, or non-furry tails, which are particularly susceptible to being split open on walls/crate sides/tables when the dog wags. These injuries are sometimes impossible to heal, and take forever if they do, usually by the time they're "normal" again, the owner's walls, ceiling, and floors are so bloody it looks like someone was murdered there. If the owner opts to try and the split of their adult dog, it usually involves several weeks (at least) of keeping the tail wrapped so it's not broken open again... then of course most dogs will "wag" the wrap off, so it has to be taped onto the fur. There are also the dogs who see that "nifty toy" on their tail, and either remove the wrap, or chew their tail, causing worse damage than before... so most dogs with split/wrapped tails are also suited up with a "cone". Then, even if the tail does heal, there's a good chance that it will be split open again at some point, so you spend a good part of your time teaching your dog "GET AWAY FROM THE WALL(crate/doorway/stove/etc)", and frantically diving between them and whatever they're bashing their tail against. If the owner opts to have the tail "docked" on an adult dog, it is considered to be an "amputation", and will have both mental and physical effects on the dog. The dog may have problems with balance/coordination afterwards, or may become severly depressed. This route also involves aftercare, wrapping, and taping for the tail, but at least after one time, it can't happen again. I prefer a dog with a tail, but would consider having a pup docked if it was of a breed at especially high risk, or if I knew that other dogs in it's line had similar problems. Dewclaws- I like dewclaws, and think that they're an imprtant thing for dogs. I know that some owners prefer dewclaws removed if the pup is going to be hunting/doing anything involving brush/harsh terrain, and that some take off dewclaws because they can scratch pretty hard with them. We have four dogs here with dewclaws (one without, but she does have "nubs", so they must have been nipped off as a pup), and I keep them filed down, plus if we go out someplace where I'm afraid of them snagging and ripping a nail, I wrap a little piece of vetwrap around their "ankles", covering the dewclaws, so there's no way they'll get snagged. They use them for holding things while they chew (bones, toys, etc), and for climbing hills and ledges when we go to the beach. Goo also uses them when we're fooling around on the agility stuff in the yard, and when she tries to climb trees after squirrels. I don't think I'd have a dog's dewclaws removed, unless they were particularly "flappy" (with no bone there to hold them "in", or if they were extra "loose"), or I was going to be doing a lot of work in bad conditions where they'd be likely to get snagged. Annie demonstrates what a torn ear (her left ear) looks like 2 yrs after stitches, cauterization, wrapping, and glueing (the tear was originally around 1/2" long, by the time it was done, it was only around 3/8" (obviously all the medical stuff was a huge help :rolleyes ). There's also a smaller tear beside it that you can't see in this pic: Goo demonstrates proper use of dewclaws ( ): Goo shows her disgust at being "wrapped" (not originally a wagging injury, but her wagging it against things has kept it from getting any better): [This message has been edited by goob (edited 03-31-2003).] IP: Logged |
rene Schreiber New Member Posts: 4 |
posted 02-04-2004 09:34 PM
I really think it is pathetic for LIsa Jenkins to continue to trash someone.Have you nothing better to do. The things you wrote aren't even true. My animals have never run loose ./I helped a friend get his dog from the spca that was loose.I have never got a citation or ticketed for anything.Everyone has skeletons in there closet but somehow lisa thinks she is free from all criticism.... ****MODERATOR EDIT**** This topic doesn't need to be restarted. The original poster posted this news article almost a year ago. If you want the "trashing" to stop, there is no need to state this and then proceed to start "trashing" back. Rene you are posting hearsay about someone (which I have removed) and this is NOT the place to do it. If you have a problem take it elsewhere. TOPIC CLOSED! Further references to this will be deleted and membership terminated. Moderator [This message has been edited by Jas (edited 02-05-2004).] IP: Logged |
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