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Auspetian

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posted 12-25-2002 11:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Auspetian   Click Here to Email Auspetian     Edit/Delete Message

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Should Pit Bulls be banned ?
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Russ
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posted 12-26-2002 07:50 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Good breeders cull out aggressive dogs and find the good pups good families. Bad breeders sell their pups to anyone who will pay or take one off the backyard breeders hands. I was approached at my supermarket the other day from a fellow who I would stereotype as a drug dealer shady person. He asked us if we wanted a pitbull because he had 7 left at home, I aske how old they were, he said 4 weeks. Yikes. He most likely has never read a single book about dogs, let alone dog breeding.

In conclusion, there are more backyard breeders than responsible ones, therefore more dogs are put into unqualified homes, to be used for protection or macho image.
Ask any qualified pitbull owner how they feel about their pitbull. I would die to save mine or sell my house to finance any emergency.

Most of the losers who own this breed won't even have a thought out opinion.

Most people who have never owned one do not have a valued opinion either.

Russ

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Gary
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posted 12-26-2002 08:56 PM           Edit/Delete Message
It's very sad how some people choose to flaunt their ignorance about the pit bull. It's very easy to find out actual facts about the breed online. (check out http://www.nyx.net/~mbur/apbtfaqfaq.html#q3, also try www.pitbullpress.com) My own pit bull is one that I found on the street. He was obviously abused in his life, yet he's never shown any agression towards humans. He won't even bark at the mailman. Many dog bite incidents are wrongly attributed to pits. The San Francisco incident mentioned above was wrongly said to be done by pit bulls for up to a week after it happened. Any pit bull that shows agression towards humans should be put down. Owners of vicious dogs should be prosecuted. Backyard breeders need to be prosecuted. People need to educate themselves on this subject. Although I'm sure that all the positve info available on this breed won't make you want to own one, at least maybe you won't want them all eradicated.

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Malcolminthemidddle
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posted 12-27-2002 11:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I was bit on the face by a German Shepard when I was about four years old. I required 268 stitches and twoo plastec surgeries to have my skin and eye re-attached. I am now 26 and have had to walk around with this horrible scar on my face as a remainder of what a bad dog owner is capable of.
My parents nor I have ever blamed the dog or the breed itself for the attack (this might be because we are a little smarter than the average boob and we think rather then react). The man who owned the dog knew it to be dangerous and left it around children unsupervised. When dealing with ANY breed of dog you should know not to do this, especially smaller dogs who are possesive.

As an adult I hear people all the time relating stories of attacks and how viscious this breed or that breed is. But here in the U.S. the amount of people who die from guns is almost 15,000% higher. Between 1978 and 1998 roughly 300 peopole were killed by dog bites. 300 is a pretty low number considering in that same period we had almost 1 million homicides by firearms alone. We have over 1,000 drownings a year. That is a hunderd times the amount of fatal dog bites. Do you know what the number one animal is for human deaths annualy? Horses. By twenty to one over the next animal..dogs. Considering there are far fewer horses in the U.S. than dogs don't you think we should focus on them? Not as glamorous though is it? Nothing like a snarling pitbull to boost the ratings, especially if you show it next to a young black male.

I now have two female pitbull terriers who are viscious. One time I saw them rip the wings off a defenseless moth only to swallow it minutes later. Worse than that they often attack friends and family with kisses and licks to the point of submission. I've been thinking of having them culled. I know I shouldn't allow these monsters to live.

Please do me a favor and do a little reading and a little living before you spew off nonsense about a breed and a cause you know little about. You sound strikingly familiar to another group of people who wanted to rid soceity of the wicked.......The Nazis.

Thank you for your time.

malcolmb33@attbi.com

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Doc Helladay
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posted 12-28-2002 01:25 AM           Edit/Delete Message
You blamed the owner of the dog that mamed you but not the dog your words were "The owner wasn't watching him..Then I have a guestion for YOU..Why weren't your parents watching you...? Now remember its just a question dont get all bent out of shape over it.

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Russ
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posted 12-30-2002 03:36 PM           Edit/Delete Message

Hi Rott lover,
So sorry to hear about the tragic loss of your pup =(

I am no pitbull expert, but I do love mine and have many books about them in my dog section.

Most pits are not bred for fighting anymore. At least here in Canada and USA. Where your friend got his pits from could answer alot of questions. Reasearching the Bloodline could tell you alot about how your dogs will turn out. There are many lines now that are bred for the more desireable traits in the pitbull, like; courage, loyalty, strength, agility, intelligence, desire to please master, gameness. ****Good breeders do not breed dog aggressive dogs.**** This is what is being bred out of the line.

Yes a lack of education is much to blame in most pit bull scenarios. Pit bulls require advanced dog handlers and factual knowledge, not myths or rumours.
1. 3 dogs equals a pack and everthing we think we know about the everyday common dog , changes, to pack mentality, a hierarchy is formed.
2. The dogs need to be socialized with dogs & people starting from 16 weeks
3. Don't believe what Joe smoe says, do your research correctly and buy some books that were written specifically on this breed.
4. Never let 2 pits from the same pack play with one dog from another, they will dominate it.
5. Owning a pit bull is a much greater responsibility than owning other more familiar breeds. It requires more knowledge, dedication, responsibility and dicsipline.
6. Know the pit and how it thinks, yes it is a dog and thinks like a dog, however, it is like a Great white shark. It is above all the lesser breeds in a physical presence.


"This might just be rumor, but one of the things I have since heard is that part of the reason that they attack is that they are bred in such a way that their brains are bigger than their skulls, putting pressure on their brains and causing paranoia which leads to the attacking."

Yes this is a rumor, it does sound ridiculous when you really think about it.


Best regards,

Russell


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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 01-02-2003 02:17 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
NICE POST...GLAD TO SEE ANOTHER PERSON IN HERE THAT LOVES PITBULLS.

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Russ
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posted 01-02-2003 04:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Most dogs that bite, have not been properly socialized. That goes for all breeds.

Chain a dog up in the house backyard or the warehouse, don't play with it, don't take it out for walks, don't introduce it to new dogs and people, don't let it see anyone at all. Hmmmmmmm I wonder if after 3 years of isolation, it could tell if a stranger was trying to be friendly or attack it???

How can anyone be so absurd to blame a dog?

Let your unsocialized untrained dog run free in the suburbs. Hmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm, is it possible it could run into a situation where it felt threatened? It was scared? It was being chased by kids throwing rocks?

Just a few thoughts I had while driving home for lunch.

Russ

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tybrax
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posted 01-02-2003 11:27 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for tybrax   Click Here to Email tybrax     Edit/Delete Message
hello springer, are your puppies cute , and gorgeous, and cuddly, if so give them a big hug and kiss from me , from a queensland gal thet loves pitty's

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sassy_pants
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posted 01-03-2003 08:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassy_pants   Click Here to Email sassy_pants     Edit/Delete Message
TYBRAX....THANK YOU(FROM SPRINGER,THIS IS MY NEW SCREEN NAME)THE ARE ADORABLE!!!!

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spimman8x
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posted 01-11-2003 04:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for spimman8x     Edit/Delete Message
How do u make a poll?

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 01-13-2003 04:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
I have been reading over everything that has been wrote on here.I want to thank everyone that has stood up for this breed.I thank you and all 10 of my pitbulls thank you.
I do have a question for everyone that thinks pitbulls should be banned.Are you saying just pitbulls or pitbulls and all pitbull related breeds need to be banned.
Be cause do you know that Great Danes,Boxers,Mastiffs,Enilish Bulldog,American Bulldog,AMStaffs,Bull Terrier,and a few more out there are all related.Do all these dogs need to be put down too?

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bigboots22
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posted 01-14-2003 01:40 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Doc, why on earth would anyone put blame on the dog? If a dog viciously attacks someone, it needs to be put down; however, a dog can never really be "blamed" for anything, because a dog does not have a sense of right and wrong. The only animal that has that gift if the human being. That places a heck of a lot of responsibility on our shoulders, doesn't it?

It bugs me that so many of us want to be thought of as superior to all other animals, but at the same time, so many of us refuse to be held accountable for anything.

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sassy_pants
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posted 01-15-2003 12:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for sassy_pants   Click Here to Email sassy_pants     Edit/Delete Message
SPIMMAN...YOU MAKE A POLL BY CLICKING ON "POST A NEW MESSAGE"...THEN FOLLOW INSTRUCTONS.

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Russ
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posted 02-03-2003 08:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Russ     Edit/Delete Message
Hi bigboots,

Your post makes alot of sense, people want to use the dog as a scapegoat. To escape the responsibility/liability of their dogs actions. They shouldn't even own a dog in the 1st place. If ones dog cannot act correctly in public places, do not take him where trouble could possibly arise. Sounds like a logical thing to live with. LOL some people can't and will never figure out this simple formula though. God PLEEEEEZ help them

Russ
To me a dog is not a pet, it is a lifelong companion. Adopting it out is not an option. It's a lifelong relationship and commitment to each other.

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