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SOUTHERN_PITBULL unregistered |
posted 12-10-2002 05:45 PM
I THINK IT IS CRAZY TO BANNED PITBULL..I AM A PITBULL BREEDER.IF YOU WANT TO BLAME SOMEONE BLAME THE OWNER.IF YOU CAN NOT CONTROL YOU PET THEN YOU DO NOT NEED IT(THAT GOES FOR ANY BREED).I HAVE HAD PITBULLS ALL MY LIFE AND I HAVE NEVER BEEN BITTEN..NOT EVEN A GROWL.AS FOR PITBULLS BEING BORN MEAN...WHO EVER SAID THAT IS CRAZY. I HAVE A QUESTION FOR ALL THE POEPLE THAT WHAT PITBULLS BANNED. IP: Logged |
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Albert Member  Posts: 143 |
posted 12-11-2002 11:08 AM
KILLER PIT BULLS RIP GRANNY TO SHREDS New York Post. December 11, 2002 -- Two bloodthirsty pit bulls mauled an 80-year-old New Jersey grandmother to death this week, Investigators do not know why the dogs, Shay, 7, and Onyx, 1 1/2, attacked Julia Mazziotto in The victim had long been familiar with the pit bulls, who were owned by her granddaughter and "The victim had known the dogs since they were puppies," said Bergen County Prosecutor John Click here to read the the all story.. [This message has been edited by Albert (edited 12-11-2002).] IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 12-11-2002 02:02 PM
I REALLY DO NOT CARE WHAT THAT WOMAN'S GRAND DAUGHTER SAID THERE ARE JUST ABOUT ALWAYS SIGNS OF ARRESTION IN PITBULL.... I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THE WAY YOU DO ABOUT THESE BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS...ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE BREED ..DO NOT BUY ONE,BUT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THERIGHT TO BAND A BREED... WHAT IF I WANTED WHAT EVER TYPE OF PET YOU OWNED BANNED..WOULDN'T YOU BE PISSED OFF!!! IP: Logged |
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Holly Member Posts: 13 |
posted 12-11-2002 02:55 PM
The owner is generally the problem behind a dogs behavourial problems. I have recently taken back a GSD bitch, 16 months old, that I bred. This puppy, as a baby was a gentle and easy going puppy. For the past 12 or her short 16 months of life, she has been living with a Grandmother that is too fragile in health to cope with a young dog, she had her tethered to a running wire chain, beside a road, with no fence or kennel for protection. At the moment, she is highly strung and a bit of a fruitloop, I am afraid. She is a product of being owned by the wrong person. She has had no pats, attention, grooming or training since 6 months of age. The 40 y.o daughter never made it clear to me that she intended dumping the dog on Mother, because she was moving to a luxury estate in Brisbane, otherwise the puppy would have stayed here. I do not blame this dog for her behaviour, I blame the humans in her life for letting her down. There was a teenager in our street, who owned a English Bull Terrier, he would 'sic' the dog onto everyone as a joke. His second dog, came 4 years later a female EBT, he treated her differently and she was a lovely dog. The older dog snapped one day and attacked the boys elderly and sickly Mother, whilst her back was turned and in a bent position, if it wasn't for the neighbour, Shirley would be dead, the second dog, hung back and didn't join in. Does this tell you something? A good and ethical dog breeder, will not sell their progeny to just anyone wanting a dog, a good dog breeder asks questions and follows their intuition as to whether the buyer is suitable for their particular breed. Some breeders are unfortunately letting buyers and puppies down too. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 12-11-2002 04:55 PM
HOLLY, I TOTALLY AGREE WITH YOU ABOUT RESPONSIBLE BREEDERS...I DO BACKGROUND CHECKS AND HOLD INTERVIEWS WITH MY CLIENTS.1ST INTERVIEW IS HELD BEFORE THE PUPPIES ARE EVEN BORN.THEN I DO A BACKGROUND CHECK.I DO ANOTHER INTERVIEW WHEN PUPPIES ARE 1 WEEK OLD,ANOTHER AT 3WEEKS,ANOTHER AT 6 WEEKS TO MAKE SURE THEY STILL ARE INTERESTED AND TO SEE IF I THINK THEY CAN HANDLE THIS BREED OF DOG. IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 143 |
posted 12-11-2002 10:49 PM
Quoting: PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 I REALLY DO NOT CARE WHAT THAT WOMAN'S GRAND DAUGHTER SAID THERE ARE JUST ABOUT ALWAYS SIGNS OF ARRESTION IN PITBULL.... I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THE WAY YOU DO ABOUT THESE BEAUTIFUL ANIMALS...ALL I HAVE TO SAY IS IF YOU DO NOT LIKE THE BREED ..DO NOT BUY ONE, BUT NO ONE SHOULD HAVE THERIGHT TO BAND A BREED... ...end quote Well i bet you don't. Judging by your nick name and the fact that you are a breeder of pit bulls. I DO NOT hate any type of dog or any particular breed. I love all type of dogs and greatly appreciate the nature and loyalty of these great wonderful animals . Man's best friend !!! However unlike you, i do realise that some dog breeds are dangerous and should not be sold as pets. They may be used for law enforcement preposes and under strict supervision, license etc. BUT SHOULD NOT BE SOLD FREELY AS PETS. People are getting KILLED and in a most vicious way as a result. It is that simple. [This message has been edited by Albert (edited 12-11-2002).] IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 12-12-2002 12:53 PM
ALBERT, THE WAY YOU TALK ABOUT THESE DOGS DOES SOUND LIKE YOU HATE THEM....AND I AM SORRY YOU FEEL THIS WAY.I DO BELIEVE THAT THESE DOGS SHOULD BE SOLD TO RESPONSEBLE OWNER..I AS A BREEDER TAKE IT APOND MYSELF TO MAKE SURE MY DOGS GO TO GOOD HOMES. IP: Logged |
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Doc Helladay unregistered |
posted 12-15-2002 06:53 AM
I believe there are good breeders in all breeds. Where things go wrong is when after the breeder goes to all the work, checking out the homes, making sure the pup Doc~2002 IP: Logged |
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Doc Helladay unregistered |
posted 12-15-2002 07:15 AM
By the way: This post on pitts is becoming a novel, I don't even take my local newspaper anymore  Doc~ IP: Logged |
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mini_pony_gal Member Posts: 33 |
posted 12-15-2002 06:21 PM
I think they should not be bred anymore, they have the instinct to kill. EVERY SINGLE ONE. IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 12-16-2002 11:21 AM
WELL FOR ALL YOU PEOPLE THAT THINK PITBULLS SHOULD BE KILLED .......snipped by admin
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boxer owner unregistered |
posted 12-18-2002 04:38 PM
I've grown up with several breeds of dog throughout the past 30 years; from Schnauzers to Old English Sheepdogs, to Boxers (which I have now). From my experience with training and raising dogs, those who say personality is based on each individual are certainly correct...when it comes to THEIR dogs and THEIR personal cases. But on average, studies and statistics do not lie. There are simply breeds that are naturally more aggressive due to generation after generation of breeding within the same bloodline. Pit bulls have been bred to fight for so long, it is now their natural instinct to be an aggressive..and easily aggitated...breed. And to respond to an earlier writer, there is DEFINITELY an issue when one breed has a stronger bite than another. For example, if a boxer clamps down on someone's arm, you can get the dog off that person. If a pit does the same thing, studies and actual occurences have shown that nothing short of shooting that dog will loosed its grip if it has attacked in "defense mode". And besides, what other breed can "lock" its jaw other than the pit bull? Being able to stop a prolonged bite from a dog can mean the difference between life and death! Allowing such a breed to flourish is irresponsible. Add the aforementioned information to an irresponsible dog owner and you have a lethal combination. Too many "inner city" groups and certain ethnic and racial backgrounds see the pit bull as "cool" to own. They promote the already aggressive nature of this breed to the extent that attacks are rampant. Check your statistics anywhere and you'll see. Bottom line: is it the Pit Bull's fault it is the way it is? I say no. It's 100's of years of breeding it for fighting that it is the way it is. However, what's done is done. What should be done is simple. This dog should only be permitted to breed for show and sold to certified & documented owners. The average Joe Schmoe who is buying these dogs for protection or to be "the shit" should not be allowed to own one.....PERIOD. The banning laws should be upheld in their current locations and instituted in those areas without them. I GUARANTEE you will see a drastic reduction in dog-attack related injuries and deaths if pit bull terriers are not on the streets and in back yards. MKK IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 12-18-2002 05:48 PM
I HAVE TO DIAGREE WITH YOU ON A FEW THINGS.I BREED PITBULLS AND HAVE BEEN AROUND THEM ALL MY LIFE.I ALSO HAVE HAD BOXERS.DID YOU KNOW THAT BOXERS AND GREAT DANES ARE OFF OF THE SAME BLOODLINE AS PITBULL?DID YOU ALSO KNOW THAT BOXERS WERE USED FOR BULL BAIT ALSO?A BOXER CAN AND WILL BITE JUST AS HARD AS A PITBULL.I LOVE ALL DOGS AND HAVE HAD MANY DIFFERENT BREEDS MYSELF,I HAVE CHOSEN TO BREED PITBULL BECAUSE A TRUE AMERICAN PITBULL IS A DYING BREED BECAUSE OF PEOPLE LIKE YOU.YOU HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE YOUR OPION JUST AS I HAVE THE RIGHT TO HAVE MINE.I THINK BANNING THESE DOGS IS STUPID.IF THAT IS THE CASE,THEN THEY NEED TO BANNED EVERY BREED THAT IS CAUGHT BITTING A HUMAN OR ANOTHER DOG.THESE DOGS WERE NOT BREAD TO FIGHT THEY WERE BREAD TO HUNT.YOU PEOPLE NEED TO GET YOU FACTS STRAIGHT BEFORE YOU UNJUSTLY ACUSE THESE DOGS OF BEING MONSTERS. THERE IS NOT ONE BREED THAT I CAN THINK OF THAT NEEDS TO BE BANNED.ALL DOGS BITE..ALL DOGS GROWL..ALL DOGS EAT...ALL DOGS POOP..ALL DOGS NEED LOVE.. I BET NOT ONE PERSON IN THIS ROOM NEW THAT PITBULL WERE THE PRIDE OF THE USA IN WWI.THE US GOVERNMENT ISSUED A SEVERAL POSTERS WITH A PITBULL WITH AN AMERICAN FLAG AROUND ITS NECK.PITBULLS ARE MORE THAN JUST DOGS..THEY ARE PART OF OUR HISTORY.I AM PROUND OF THESE DOGS AND WHAT THEY STAND FOR.PRIDE,HONER,LOYALTY.... YOU ALL CAN SAY WHAT YOU LIKE ABOUT PITBULL,BUT YOU NEED TO REALIZE THAT THERE ARE ALOT OF BREEDERS OUT THERE THAT ARE JUST LIKE ME..WE WILL DO WHAT EVER IT TAKES TO KEEP THIS BREED ALIVE...AT ALL COSTS. IT YOU WANT TO CHECK OUT THE POSTER I AM REFURRING TO CHECK OUT MY WEBSITE @ http://southern_pitbull.tripod.com A picture of one of my puppies. [This message has been edited by Auspetian (edited 12-19-2002).] IP: Logged |
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sassy_pants Member Posts: 13 |
posted 12-18-2002 09:19 PM
I THINK THIS WHOLE POLL NEEDS TO BE SUMMED UP IN SOME SORT. WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE WHO DO NOT LIKE THEM DUE TO NEGATIVE STATISICS, AND PERSONAL PREFERNCE ECT. WE HAVE OUR PEOPLE WHO LIKE THEM DUE TO POSITVE STATISTICS, PERSONAL PREFERNCE ECT. WE CAN ALL TALK TILL WE ARE BLUE IN THE FACE OR WE CAN ACCEPT THAT EVERYONE HAS THIER OWN OPINION. WHICH WE DO. UNTIL THESE LAWS ARE MADE, THIS IS REALLY NOT A BIG DEAL. I REALIZE SOME PEOPLE HAVE HAD BAD EXPERIENCES WITH THESE DOGS AND I AM NOT SAYING THAT THIS IS OK. ALL I AM SAYING IS THAT PEOPLE HAVE A RIGHT TO CHOOSE WHAT KIND OF ANIMAL THEY WANT TO OWN. I TRULY BELIEVE THEY ARE NOT ALL THEY SAME JUST AS IN US AS HUMAN BEING WE ARE NOT ALL ALIKE IN ANYWAY SHAPE OR FORM. WE ALL HAVE DIFFERENT PERSONALITIES AND WAYS OF DOING THINGS. WE CANNOT SAY EVERY SINGLE PIT BULL IS BAD. I AM A PIT BULL OWNER, NOW OF TWO BECAUSE MY PIT JUST HAD PUPPIES. I UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES. ALSO TO THE COMMENT THAT WAS MADE EARLIER IN THE POLL ABOUT "WANTING A PIT FOR PROTECTION OR TO BE THE SHIT" I DISAGREE. I ADOPTED MY PIT AT A VERY YOUNG AGE DUE TO HER BEING ABUSED, MISTREATED AND UNDERFED. ALSO FOR PROTECTION. I HAVE WORKED VERY HARD WITH HER IN THE PAST 2 YEARS TO TRAIN HER TO KNOW WHEN TO PROTECT AND WHEN NOT TO. SHE WILL TAKE TO ANYONE THAT COMES IN OUR HOUSE AND IS OVER FRIENDLY. SHE ALSO IS A SHOW DOG. SO I HAVE HER FOR A MAJORITY OF REASONS. NOT TO BE "THE SHIT". I AM 28 YEARS OLD AND A MOTHER OF TWO. I THINK I AM A RESPOSIBLE ADULT. ALSO WHEN I GET RID OF THE PUPPIES I HAVE MADE UP A PAPER FOR THE BUYER TO SIGN STAING THAT THEY WILL NOT USE THESE DOGS IN ANY WAY TO FIGHT. I WILL DO A BACKGROUND CHECK AND ALSO USE MY PERSONAL INSTINCT FOR THESE PEOLE WHO BUY THEM. I KNOW THIS WILL NOT KEEP THESE DOGS FROM BEING FOUGHT OR MISTREATED BUT I CAN DO MY BEST TO CHANGE THE WAY PEOPLE FEEL ABOUT THEM.(JUST AS IN ANY DOG) LIKE I SAID I TOTALLY UNDERSTAND BOTH SIDES AND DO NOT WISH TO OFFEND ANYONE. I REALLY COULD NOT ASK FOR A BETTER DOG. COULD SOMEONE THAT DOES NOT LIKE THESE DOGS GIVE THE "GOOD ONES" A CHANCE? JUST FOR THE RECORD I WAS CURRENLY UNDER THE NAME SPRINGER AND THIS IS MY NEW NAME. ( FOR THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE REPLIED TO ME BEFORE) [This message has been edited by sassy_pants (edited 12-18-2002).] IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 143 |
posted 12-19-2002 02:34 AM
WOW This post is going places. Should turn into a web site by its own right. Maybe "The never ending pool about Pit Bulls story".... Did you see what you've started geisthexe?. Where are you anyway?.. dropped a bomb shell and went. A good healthy hot debate....just the way i like it. Comes to show that the problem is very real. [This message has been edited by Albert (edited 12-19-2002).] IP: Logged |
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