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Doc Helladay
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posted 12-22-2002 12:23 AM           Edit/Delete Message
It's a message that is being repeated in different languages round the world: the necessity of responsible dog ownership.
These reports are a chilling testament to what has become agrowing health concern throughout the world.
The Centers for Disease Control and Prevention (CDC) in Atlanta, Georgia,estimate that over 4 millio bitesinthe U.S alone, with more than 756,000 cases requiring medicalattention.
Tracking of dog bites, many countries including Australia, Canada, Denmark, England, Hungary,and the United States have implemented restrictions regarding"dangerous dogs" to stem the attacks.

Dog bites are a major child-health problem in the United States,exceeding the total number of cases of measles, whooping cough,and mumps each year. Dog attacks are also one of the most commn causes of severe facial lacerations in children. Each year,approximately 44,000 facial bites are reported in the U.S.;16,000 of them requiring plastic surgery requiring plastic surgery.


Yet despite the immense number of physical and psychologicalscars from dog bites, the public seems

A well-trained, neutered Rottweiler will probably make a much better pet than a poorly socialized dachshund.

Immense number of physical and psychologicalscars from dog bites, the public seems largely unaware of a serious problem that could exist; literally; in its own backyard.

Dogs may be Mans best friend, but they may also bite the hand that feeds them.

The most comman attack is usually the family pet, not a stray, and the victims are under the age of 10. Most bites occur while the dog is leashed, fenced, chained, or indoors. Another statistic: nearly one half of all attacks occur on the street,sidewalk, or alley adjacent to the dog owner's property.

People or children are most likely to be bitten by your own dog, or a dog owned by a friend or neighbor.

Two other groups most comman to attacks are the elderly and the postman.

The Human Societry and the United States Postal Service sponsor the National Dog Bite Prevention week, which is public information campaign which directs its information to 125 million houshold with advice of how to prevent a dog bites.
(BTW I live in the US I never got any literture like this)
Over the years media reports have focused in on the Rottweiler and the Pit bull terrior, but yet report reveals that if the dog has been neutered the male dog is three times less likely not to bite.

Large dogs are capable of bone-snapping jaw pressures of 200 to 450 pounds per square inch. The Pit Bull clamp down with steel-trap jaws capable of exerting nearly 1,500 pound of pressure, which is several times that of a German Shepard.

Some of the smaller breeds can be just as aggressive, but they will tear up an ankle instead of someones face.

In a effort to take the bite out of costs, the U.S insurance industry has listed some of the breeds which they have paid liablity on and are considered HIGH Risk. Boxer, Chow, American Staffordshire terrior, Doberman pinscher, German Shepard, Siberian Husky, and Great Dane.

In the 70's which ones were reported were German Shepard, collie, and cocker spaniel, as of today the Rotweiler, pitbull and chow and a victin of their own demand.

A USA newspaper reported a poll that showed 38 percent of households have a dog of fear due to crime being. A number of people are buying dogs as weapons, either for offensive or defensive purposes. People are buying dogs for protection rather than for companionship (Loaded gun in your home)

Breeding protection dogs have become big business. People are willing to pay as much as 1500 to 7000 for a professionally trained guard dog. Unfortunately, drug dealers, gang members, and gun runners have turned to these same breeds named above for their illicit interests.

Statsitics show that out of 150 attacks in the home only 1 was a burglar.

In England, due to the rash of pit attacks, the goverment implemented the Dangerour Dogs Act of 1991. They are banned from import to the UK. These inclue the American pit bull, the Japanses tosa, and 2 south American breeds, the argentino dogo and filas brasileiro.

In the US some communities require the owners of high risk breed to carry liablity insurance and muzzle their dogs in public.
Many of these ordiances have been ruled unconstitutional and are under fire from their owners for being unfairly singled out because of the breed they own.

In Washington Dc (approving) legislation that classifies all pits and rots as now being dangerous dogs, and mandating that they be muzzled and leashed in public. Owners must be at least 18yrs and carry a $50,000 liablity policy.

Dogs roaming in packs in Russia, since 1995 there has been 40,000 attacks requiring medical attention.

(My personnel note) At this point in time I feel it doesnt matter whether its a owners problem, dog problem or whatever the case is. The problem is here and due to all the lawsuits being filed more and more cases being reported and such a variety of type of dogs, eventually they will consider all dogs to be dangerous, and make us all pay in one way or another whether small or large breed.
Right now they are aimed on the large dogs due to damage they do, but it wont take long for their list to increase. Future might hold for us liability on any type of dog owned. (this is just my opinion)
What do you think?


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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 12-23-2002 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
HEY DOC,

I AM GLAD YOU ARE DOING RESEARCH ON ALL OF THIS..AND I DO THINK ITS PRETTY COOL THAT YOU CARE...YOU SOUND LIKE A GOOD PERSON.

I HAVE ALSO DONE ALITTLE RESEARCH OF MY OWN...PITBULLS DO NOT BITE ANY HARDER THAN A BOXER,MASTIFF,GREAT DANE,OR ANY OTHER BREED IN THIS BLOODLINE..PITBULLS DO NOT LOCK THEIR JAWS WHEN THEY BITE....AND MOST OF THE DOG BITES THAT DO ACCURE ARE MOSTLY BY SMALLER DOGS..

PITBULLS ARE NO DIFFERENT THAN ANY OTHER LARGE DOGS YOU CAN BUY.

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Albert
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posted 12-24-2002 08:20 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
Question to princess.

If pit bulls and are no different then any other large dogs, nor in bite power
or ferocity then why on earth councils around the world (state by state slowly but surly) are taking steps to ban the breed.

Don’t you think they (councils) would have specialists that check these matters, identify and recommend banning certain breeds. They must have vets and other professionals that work on these issues and recommend accordingly.

Or maybe is it just a world wide pit bulls conspiracy ?


P.S.
Here we go again starting a pit bull thread

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Albert
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posted 12-24-2002 08:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Albert     Edit/Delete Message
Quote Doc >>
(My personnel note) At this point in time I feel it doesnt matter whether its a owners problem, dog problem or whatever the case is. The problem is here and due to all the lawsuits being filed more and more cases being reported and such a variety of type of dogs, eventually they will consider all dogs to be dangerous, and make us all pay in one way or another whether small or large breed.
Right now they are aimed on the large dogs due to damage they do, but it wont take long for their list to increase. Future might hold for us liability on any type of dog owned. (this is just my opinion) What do you think?

Doc here in Australia they’ve already started charging all kind of fees for owning a pet. We had to pay last month $100 just for max to be registered with the council.

This was a new law introduced this year forcing all pet owners to register their pets with the council (dogs, cats, not sure about other pets) or fines of up to $200 apply. It would have cost only $36 if the dog is de-sexed (we are being kind
of fined for not having Max’s pride and joy removed). Line was silent for a moment there when I called the council to ask how exactly them $100 will benefit max in any way.

A hidden pre-liability fee to my opinion.

P.S.
We've paid the $100. Having Max's pride and joy removed is entirly his decision and not ours (humans). That's what i think anyway.

[This message has been edited by Albert (edited 12-24-2002).]

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Doc Helladay
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posted 12-25-2002 05:57 AM           Edit/Delete Message
New Update From New Jersey and American Kennel club is as follows:
NJ Looks at “Pit Bull” Restrictions
[Monday, October 28, 2002]
New Jersey is considering new legislation that would severely restrict ownership of pit bulls—including “American Pit Bull Terriers, American Staffordshire Terriers, Staffordshire Bull Terriers, Staffordshire Terriers and any dog determined to be a pit bull type.” This new bill (A2906) was introduced in mid-October and appears to be quickly making its way through the Assembly. Immediate help from New Jersey dog owners is needed to defeat this unjust, ineffective, and extremely poorly written bill.

A2906 Requires:

A special license for all “pit bulls” ($150-700)

A municipality may require anyone who owns a dog to prove that it ISN'T a pit bull (municipality will visually inspect the dog to determine whether it is a pit bull). Very few municipalities have staff with any breed identification knowledge or experience.

Confinement in permanent enclosure (including a secure pen AND a 6-ft. fence).

Pit Bulls must be muzzled when off owner's property and leashed with a tether not more than 3-feet long. The tether must be approved by an animal control officer.

The municipality must inspect the enclosure and the licensee's property at least monthly.

Liability insurance.

Violators are subject to fine up to $1000/day.

Seized dogs will be placed in no-kill shelter until properly adopted or until the dog dies of natural causes.


Other Points about A2906:

NJ state law prohibits labeling a dog “dangerous” based on breed alone. A2906 is contrary to existing state law.

NJ has a good dangerous dog law in place—they key to solving dangerous dog problems is not to pass arbitrary new restrictions but to enforce the existing law.

Breed-specific laws are unfair to responsible owners of the restricted breeds. Deeds, not breeds, should be the determining factor.

Breed-specific laws increase costs for the community. Administrative costs, enforcement costs, and shelter costs will skyrocket under A2906.

Uniformly enforced dangerous dogs laws—like the existing NJ state law—will force all owners to be responsible, regardless of what breed they own.

Countless national animal organizations—American Kennel Club, AVMA, ASPCA, National Animal Control Association, National Animal Interest Alliance, and others—oppose breed-specific legislation because they know it simply doesn’t work.

What You Can Do:

Immediately e-mail, call or write your NJ Assembly member and urge him/her to oppose A2906. (To find your legislator’s contact information, visit http://www.njleg.state.nj.us/members/legsearch.asp.)

Contact the sponsor of the bill, Assemblyman John Burzichelli, to let him know that New Jersey dog owners oppose A2906.
The Hon. John J. Burzichelli (D-3)
State House Box 098
Trenton, NJ 08625-0098
609-292-5339
AsmBurzichelli@njleg.org

Share this information with fellow dog owners in New Jersey.

(My personel note: For those that truely love their dog I feel its important that everyone has the right to have some say in the matter........................)
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Info on tips to prevent bits regardless of size or breed. It beginds with responsible owners. The second step is selecting the right breed for you. Also consult with a responsible Honest dog breeder or your veterinarian for additional advice.
¿ Leash your dog, when you allow your dog to run in the yard, to keep it safe and in a safe fenced enclosure. While electric fences may keep your dog in your yard, they do not keep PEOPLE and animals from approaching it.
¿Keep a current shot record avvailable at all times.
¿Socialize your dog, when you bring it home. Ones that feel uneasy when approached by strangers, even loving dogs bite out of fear. ( My personel note I would always make a point when I fed my dogs for years to take my hand in and out of their feeding bowls so they knew a human would not take their food)
Teach them to always drop their toy that way if they had a face or ankle they would know to DROP instantly.
Tug of war is a bad habit for most dogs Maybe: (maybe use your big dog with your head as a pillow might be more in order) gets them use to heads around their body) my thoughts.
Dogs are protective this is their nature. So we give them what they want but in a different way.
The dogs body language can tell the owner alot, so keep your QQ's open.

Alot of people say its bad to stare a dog in face. Well I do agree with that one. But if that comes to be always have a toy (Something that doesnt look like a doll baby nor a toy that resembles one either. Use plain colored objects in color.

Well thats my 3 cents for today and HO HO HO and Merry Xmas..Hope alot of homeless dogs arent freezing out there in the cold.. LETS HOPE NOT...... <3 <3 <3 my 3 hearts

Doc~


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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 01-03-2003 11:19 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
DOC,
ITS COOL YOU YOU WANT TO TALK ABOUT THE LAWS AND EVERYTHING,BUT PITBULLS WILL ALWAYS BE AROUND.PEOPLE LIKE ME WILL NEVER GIVE UP OUR DOGS NO MATTER WHAT.I DO NOT CARE WHAT THE LAWS SAY,THEY WILL NOT KEEP ME FROM OWNING PITS...THAT IS JUST THE WAY IT IS..THEY WILL HAVE TO KILL ME ....TO TAKE MY DOGS...I WILL NEVER PAY A FEE TO OWN MY PETS AND I WILL BE DAMNED IF SO STUFFED SHIRT IS GOING TO TELL ME WHAT KIND OF DOG I CAN OWN.
PLEASE DO NOT TAKE THIS THE WRONG WAY..MY ANGER IS NOT TOWARDS YOU ARE ANYONE ELSE...
IT IS JUST THIS SIMPLE..IF YOU DO NOT LIKE PITBULLS DO NOT BUY ONE AND DO NOT GO AROUND ONE...IT IS THAT EASY.

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pittypat
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posted 02-03-2003 07:30 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Doc, I'm fairly new here, so forgive me (and correct me) if I'm wrong.

All I have seen you do is come here to cut and paste inflammatory items.

What is your point, if I may ask?

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shmoopie
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posted 02-03-2003 07:41 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for shmoopie     Edit/Delete Message
I'm kinda confused ?

You posted info that supports all dogs big and small bite...depends on the amount of training and personality of the dog, wether it is APBT or white fluffy thingie...all dogs bite.

I think your sitting on the fence and your not sure which way to go???

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Russ
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posted 02-03-2003 07:57 PM           Edit/Delete Message
If one wants a 1st time dog, don't get a pitbull. If you have had many working dogs already and are already an experienced dog handler, getting a pitbull makes alot more sense than a 1st time dog owner getting one. A pitbull is more of a dog, it is the King of dogs. Try finding statistics on responsible pitbull owners. I am sure that alot of these statistics are based on unqualified owners that cant even take care of themselves let alone a strong working dog that requires commitment and proper training.

Actually, I believe that there should be a pre req to own a pitbull. Unqualified people should not own the breed. Theoretically, if all pitbull owners were responsible, took the time and money it takes to properly own a pit, and were educated about the breed ( just as it is in CANADA to own a gun, you have to take a course) The bad stats for pitbulls would dramatically decrease.

I don't deny that pits can be vicious, I just don't agree with banning all pits becouse of a few rotten apples and alot of POS owners.

Dogs will always bite, there is always statistics to dig up. Responsible dog ownership will always be the main problem. I think that raising the prices of owning a strong working breed like bull breeds is a good way to screen out the trash owners. Make it harder for the less commited to get one. If pits were as hard to get as a gun and you had to take a dog handling course to get one, that would sure decrease the demand and make sure only commited people were getting them. *Im not saying that all these people would be responsible though*

The breed deserves the respect, as do guns

*change topic*

Someones quote

quote>>"Tug of war is a bad habit for most dogs Maybe: (maybe use your big dog with your head as a pillow might be more in order) gets them use to heads around their body) my thoughts.
Dogs are protective this is their nature."<<

I just wanted to add, when both my dogs are tugging with me, I say "let go" they obey.
If I put my hand anywhere close to either ones mouths or the rope as if to grab it, they instantly release it without me saying a word.
When I put my face close to my dogs they snort through their noses (bull breeds do this as saying hi [very common for this breed]) and lick/kiss my chin.

Regards,

Russ

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Russ
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posted 02-03-2003 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
LOL, it's funny how we all posted to the same thread which hasn't been posted to for 1 month.

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Russ
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posted 02-05-2003 08:03 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Here are some stats to look at.
Stats on dog attacks

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Doc Helladay
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posted 02-07-2003 06:15 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Hi Russ, good link I am glad you found that at least people will know IF THEY READ IT, and I sure hope they do that it is not just 1 particular breed even though it from 1997 it was very informative. As you know we have been through 2 severe dog attacks and guess what, one of the severe dog attacks on my son the particular breed was not even listed. The second attack we went through I can say was NOT on top of list which I already knew this. This is why for some you think I am sitting on a fence, quite the opposite, in things I have posted I make my own personnel notes such as But I do state my opinions and my feelings, and that is not to hurt anyone else's feelings. I also been around the dog world and a few rings for over 30 yrs. I know you are new smoo and also pitty, that is why I haven't addressed either of you in past but I am now. If the 2 of you go back far enough in posts, its kinda hard to follow, somethings got erased when they made just a pit forum. Its hard to post ones feelings in typewritten form due to you can't feel emotions..(PRINCESS we know when you are upset we see dollar $$$$$$ signs..we all kinda have learned as we have gone along what other people mean and sometimes it is taken wrong and of course people takes over and our defense mode comes into place. When this happens your keyboard is going 100 mph.
Doc~2003 BTW it is sometimes good to read each line in a post I know sometimes I kinda scan over so I am sure alot of us have made this mistake..I know I have

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 02-07-2003 11:22 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
Hey Doc,

lol..Thats right I will always let you know when I am upset....lol..Atleast I know you read my post..lol

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