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shmoopie Member  Posts: 361 |
posted 02-04-2003 12:58 PM
  
Well hello Thanks for noticing the dedication to the breed! I do love my dog as though he is my baby. I agree that owning this breed requires a lot of knowledge and dedication....but that goes for all breeds. A APBT is very sensitive to it's surroundings and is very intelligent...therefore, this breed requires an intelligent and dog educated master. There should be laws that require every dog owner to take a basic obedience class...EVERY DOG...not just the APBT..but all dogs need proper training and socialization...or else that white fluffy thingie could possibly be more of a threat than my 100lb APBT....all depends on the amount of time dedicated to creating an obedient/socialized dog. IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 143 |
posted 02-04-2003 08:22 PM
shmoopie, That small white fluffy thing will leave a few scratch marks on your ankles, at best I’m sure you’d agree that there is a small difference as you do come across as an intelligent person too [This message has been edited by Albert (edited 02-04-2003).] IP: Logged |
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Russ Member Posts: 147 |
posted 02-05-2003 01:40 AM
Quote"So maybe we should blame TV and newspapers and all them people who personally experienced vicious attacks instead." I like your sarcasm but I think the main point still eludes you. Blame them for what? Thousands of people are dying every day in 3rd world countries. I would rather see Front page headlines about this so it could influence more people to help those that really need it. Rather than Bucs beat the Raiders or Gold dropped $10. Why doesn't the media publish articles about responsible pitbull owners. Sad to say, but alot of people in the states are born brainwashed. Born to pay taxes. Only some of the intelligent ones see past this, they hire a good accountant and play the game. The other 75% just get in line to send in the checks. Or get their wages garnisheed by the IRS. I call it American culture influenced by censored controlled mass media. George Monkey speaking Is N Korea next? Nope, because they are backed by China and there is nothing in N Korea that the USA wants, I wonder if N Korea would be a huge bullseye target if there was a gold or diamond mine or any other type of resource that has a massive $$ value. In closing, the topic of pitbulls and the media will be a forever uphill battle for the breed. The scales are uneven, it would be a bad political decision for any politician to side with pitbulls. If it was fair and open to an honest debate, things would be different and this thread would never have been created. The media can destroy or glorify anyone or anything it so chooses. Baaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa......... Not in the herd like the rest of the sheep Russ IP: Logged |
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doc helladay unregistered |
posted 02-05-2003 07:50 AM
OK here we go again, who started this back up. Hmmmmm I could point some fingers but won't but I wasn't going to post in here either just like Albert, due to it being a somewhat old topic. But I have to agree with Albert due to when you say THE USA(media)is brainwashed people, excuse me that is so incorrect. And as far as the media, this will be my question for this post. Why shouldn't the media cover some lil baby being killed by a dog. I know DAM well if it was mine I would want it on the news. Those of you that do not agree with me please don't respond to this post here. I would rather not see any bashing going on. This is my opinion, and if you feel its brainwashed then fine you think whatever you want. The Media does not brainwash people here. Doc~2003 IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 143 |
posted 02-05-2003 09:03 AM
The Media does not brainwash people also here in Australia. This brainwash thing and sheeps baaaaaaaaaing keeps coming back on Canadian posts. What the hell is going on up there?
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-05-2003 09:24 AM
I will have to disagree with Albert and Doc.I do beleive that the media brainwashes alot of people here in the USA.The government says that games and movies make our kids more violent.That is a load of crap..Kids are going to do what they ant to do...but people still believe the government...The government says pitbulls are horrible animals and need to be put down...and people believe it...The government whats you to believe they know everything,when most of what they know is crap..In my opinion all the government knows is how to make these big weapons and kill thousands of people....and take our money.. Do not get me wrong..I love my country,but I think the people in our government suck... IP: Logged |
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Albert Member Posts: 143 |
posted 02-05-2003 09:47 AM
Princess, Alwayes sounds better when coming from you !. Cheers IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 02-05-2003 01:27 PM
To Doc, We up here in Canada are known for our outstanding education. We are taught from grade 9 alllllll about the media and the methods they use to get people "believeing" their over exagerated BULL SHIT....where's your facts on that? IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-05-2003 02:42 PM
Thanks Albert....It's always nice to know some one is really listening to you..lol.. Doc,I am sorry if I upset you.That was not my intention..You want facts...Then listen next someone from your government says something...or some stupid comercal comes on...The government thinks you should believe everything they say..That they know everything there is to know and their way is best.. IP: Logged |
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Russ Member Posts: 147 |
posted 02-05-2003 06:18 PM
They try to brainwash us up here to I should add. Most people laugh at the concepts though. Most of the under 23 beer drinking smokers go for it though. But if you can't figure out that smoking will kill you, well I guess you are not that intelligent. The media does cover little babies killed by dogs, that should be front page news, at least it is up here in the FAR FAR North where it's all ice and trees. But down in the USA, football and baseball are far more important. It's a #1 priority for millions down in the USA Also, it is an ongoing topic, not an old one, Doc, just cover your eyes and it will all go away ok. Trust me on this one. Oh, I should word this better, the media brainwashes the weak ones. Not everyone, just the ones that fall for it. I am not saying that Doc or Albert are brainwashed, I am just replying to ignorant comments/opinions. Not the recent ones but the old ones from when this thread 1st started. I still haven't seen anything from either to demonstrate that they understand what the whole point was. They both just left and said I give up. Russ I add this after it was posted. [This message has been edited by Russ (edited 02-05-2003).] IP: Logged |
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shmoopie Member Posts: 361 |
posted 02-05-2003 06:25 PM
Doc, I do agree that if a dog attacks a lil wee baby....that should be made public; however, they are pointing the finger in the wrong direction. The real issues here are all the dog attacks, it is not one specific breed, but the combination of all the dog attacks (most have but few Pit Bull's in them). The real issue here is why are these attacks taking place? If you were to talk to a dog trainer or someone with experience with dogs, they will always ask what occured to create such a situation...never saying it is the breed. I am so sorry to burst your bubble, but you should know this if you have done your research. When MAN created the Pit Bull, at any sign of aggression towards a human the dog was destroyed....that is why today almost all APBT dogs are the friendliest cuddliest creatures with humans...any APBT that is not friendly with hunmans(in this day and age) will most likley be destroyed (sad, but true)and is the result of an abusive owner/handler or a medical condition. One medical condition is within the brain. It causes sezure related aggression and usually happens due to over breeding. We need to have laws that protect mans best friend..not laws that put them to death. And it should be required that all dog owners partake in basic obedience....I won't hold my breath too long though....because hey look at all the drug addicts giving birth to wee lil babies...they don't require any knowledge...what's so important about a dog when we don't even take care of the human race. IP: Logged |
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Doc Helladay unregistered |
posted 02-06-2003 07:07 AM
To Princess: I totally agree with you in regards to your statements about the gov, etc> wants people to believe. Our system is not for the good of all, remember me posting all they are looking for is MORE money for their pockets. So many posts hard to remember them all but, I am glad too see people are finally opening their eyes to what is wrong with our system, I feel only weekminded people can be brainwashed and not see through all this. For others that have directed messages to me I feel you are responsible dog owners with lots of info which also include your Russ. The sad part here is the ones that are not being responsible are not even reading information from and learning anything about the breed. Doc~ IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-06-2003 12:04 PM
I just wanted to say thank you Doc.I try my very best to help any one that wants to learn and understand this breed.If is was not for Russ,myself,and other responsible pitbull owners no one would ever really know the truth behind this wonderful breed.I do not exspect everyone to love or own this breed,but I do expect people to respect this breed,as I do any other breed. There is no one to blame for these dogs actions,but man kind.We have made them what they are...that includes the good with the bad.No breed is perfect and there never will be.Does this mean we should kill every breed that has any kind of problem we (as human) do not agree with.If this is the case,then this will be a very sad world.For we,would not have any dog breed left. IP: Logged |
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doc helladay unregistered |
posted 02-07-2003 05:31 AM
To Princess and Russ: Between the 2 of you and the knowledge you both possess, why don't you two start a foundation, with a website that is linked. Foundations are started all the time, and people donate to them to help. I know prin..you have been writing letters that is great, someone has to speak up, and most of the time it only takes 1, then it grows. Bad part about legistlative law is the majority of them are attorneys in there writing laws so when they get out of office they can go back to their practice and use them to their benefit. Then we got the person out there trying to get things on a ballet xx,xxxx amount of signatures.. which sometimes works but then we got the other side with I say get the info out there, start a foundation make the difference. I truely believe with determination which you have this can be accomplished, it will take dedication, time and along with it will come frustrations too. On the network 2 weeks ago, AKC made sure to address the pits when they came up..making the statement "For the breed that has gotten a bad rap" I am not sure if that was the exact words but it was addressed..Have you checked with AKC if any type of foundations to support this breed has been done.. Doc~2003 IP: Logged |
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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979 Member Posts: 414 |
posted 02-07-2003 11:32 AM
Doc, I heard the stament you are talking about on the dog show..I thought it was pretty cool how the hosts were standing up for this breed. As for the foundation,i am in the prcess of getting the paper work together.There are alot of thing I have to get in order before I can start. Saving this breed is the most important thing in my life besides my family,which consists of 10 pitbulls.It will be a very long and hard road,but it is a road I am willing to travel.Hopfully I will not have to travel it alone,but if I do.Well,every bump I come to will be worth it.Even if I just save one pitbull from abuse or death,it is all worth it.All I can do is do my best and put the rest in GOD's hands. IP: Logged |
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