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megan
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posted 08-08-2002 04:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
hi, I'm not a horse owner, but this is the only good forum I could find. I have a question that I would like differend opinions about. I am in the future going to own a horse, I have always wanted a male. My problem is I'm not sure of the personality differences in a gelding vs. a stallion, if I even have all that right. My family is more that likely going to move out for much more land, so thats not a probelm. I plan on only owning one. But is there an age limit or anything on when you can get the horse 'fixed' so to speak, if I aqire another and already have a stallion. And if I've messed up any of the 'lingo' please let me know, I'm really trying to learn.

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Pauline
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posted 08-08-2002 04:01 AM           Edit/Delete Message
A gelding is preferred by many because of its more level headedness. A mare is flighty, unpredictable more, hormones is the culprit, LOL! Esp if she's in heat, a real pain.
Now, as for gelding a stud/stallion, there are sometimes a well-behaved one, but for a young teen, I would say pick a gelding. Usually, at about age 2, a horse is begun at being ridden due to the spine being therefore ready for the weight of a rider, and all the people I know had horses gelded on or about 1-2 so the hormones can fill the body and the muscles fill in nicely. Then, training for a rider is begun. I had a gelding that never knew he was gelded and would chase another horse. Some never lose that, but not common. Try horses until you drop from the shopping. Don't rush at the purchase. And beware of lame ones that are drugged to hide the lameness, etc. Make sure you get it vet-checked first. Possibly get some leg x-rays. Good luck.

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Kristin_8615
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posted 01-24-2003 11:28 PM           Edit/Delete Message
I recently was going through gelding denial. My baby, Joey was getting all grown up. He was so sweet and I could do anything with him. I didn't want to have to geld him. I mean when my dad was young he had a stallion that he rode all the time. I thought maybe Joey would be the same. Then one day all of the sudden he wasn't acting like my baby anymore. He was full of hormones and all grown up. It was then that I decided yup he will be gelded! Geldings are much more laid back. Joey is now a stallion, I haven't had him gelded yet, and he is pushy, I can't trust him, he picks at my mare(among other things he does with her), He's really horrible behaving. I would suggest that if you get a horse don't base your opinion on the sex of a horse. Go out and ride horses, spend time with them. If there is a doubt in your mind then it probably isn't the right horse for you. Two summers ago we were looking for a horse for my younger sister, I would ride the horses to see if she should even give it a try. I read an ad that simply said, "two year old paint mare good 4-h prospect" I thought what the heck it can't hurt to call. The minute I saw Trinity I knew she was the most gorgeous horse I'd ever seen. When I rode her there was no question in my mind whatsoever she was perfect. I convinced my parents to let me buy her and I am so in love with her. I don't think I could live without her. She is too perfect for me. My advice to you, be persistent you will find the perfect horse for you. Keep looking and don't overlook short or simple ads. Calling never hurts so why not. Just keep looking the perfect horse will show up.

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robyn
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posted 02-02-2003 05:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for robyn     Edit/Delete Message
i would suggest that you board a horse first untill you can learn more about horses,(it really helps,trust me) that why, there is people that know what they are doing if you have any questions. then you can meet new people and learn how to be a really good rider. Also, i HIGHLY HIGHLY suggest joing your local pony club, i know it sounds kinda dorky but you learn soooo much about the horse and how it acts and you learn so much about safety. you also can go to rallies when you are in pony club. at rallies you do every thing yourself so you learn how to be independent with your horse!! i think this would be great for you! good luck! horses are so much fun and you create such a bond with your horse it is unbelievable! if you have any questions, just email me at horsegurl476@aol.com

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PITBULL_PRINCESS1979
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posted 02-03-2003 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PITBULL_PRINCESS1979     Edit/Delete Message
hi,
I have been around horses all my life.For some one that has never owned a horse and is just begiannig to ride.I would get a mare.If you want a male horse get a gelding.Stallions are hardheaded,aggressive,and can not be trusted(most of the time).The choice is yours of course,but it take a person with lots of trainning and exsperiance with orses to handle a stud.

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PetloversinIdaho
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posted 02-08-2003 03:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PetloversinIdaho     Edit/Delete Message
I agree with pitbull princess. It is really not a good idea for an unexperience person to be even around a stallion. There is to much that can happen to fast and you can get very seriously hurt or even be killed by a stallion. Good luck on finding the right horse for you.

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Maisey
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posted 02-18-2003 02:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Megan,

Mare or gelding, handling a stallion is for the experienced. I don't know how old you are but 4-H is a wonderful way to learn about horses. You also get riding partners and friends in the deal! I live in Oregon and have two daughters 14 and 10 they are both in 4-H and have a blast. We also have non-horse 4-H, meaning the kids don't have horses, but they do tons of learning about them, and participate in activities that involve horses. They offer opportunities for college scholarships and much much more. That may be an option until you do get one. you can find out about 4-H in your area by calling your County Extension Office. Smiles

PS 4-H has many programs, not just animal related.

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mini_pony_gal
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posted 02-23-2003 02:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mini_pony_gal     Edit/Delete Message
I advise you NOT to get a stallion. My mini colt is only a year old, he is my first ever pony but he behaves REALLY badly. Stick with mares and geldings unless you are willing to put up with non stop biting and kicking, and want to build up a trusting relationship with your horse

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Cassie
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posted 05-01-2003 12:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Cassie     Edit/Delete Message
I would say that if you have never owned a horse before and you don't know the atitude difference between a Gelding and A stallion that you most deffiently do not belong owning a stallion... as far as mares and Geldings go.. one is not better then the other it all depends on the horse... some mares may be flighty and ignorant people just blame this on the horse being in heat or it being a mare and some geldings have the same problems and people blame it on a medical problem or the season... please don't let anyone tell you that there is a better Sex or a better bred... it all depends on the horse and the rider...

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demingletsride
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posted 05-14-2003 10:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for demingletsride     Edit/Delete Message
You have gotten alot of good advice already, something can be taken from each responce but the best advice is to spend time learning about horses first. Gelding or mare diffently not a stallion, they have a very complicated personality that is driven by the fact that they want to be in controll and they can be very agressive. I had a breading stallion who I was very happy with but it was a great deal of work and you have to understand complete equine behavior. You could really benifit by taking riding lessons for at least 6 months to a year to get familar with horse behavior and to by books on how to care for these animals, they have a very complicated systems and if you don't understand and feed or care for them improperly you could be the cause of serious conditions or even death,please if you truely want to be a horse owner educate yourself first and not learn along the way at the horses expense of it's suffering.
I don't mean to sound condeming but I have watch horses at the hands of ignorate people with love and good intentions, they just didn't know better.
I have a feeling you will search for the opportunity to learn, If lessons are not in your budget, volinteer at a local stable for anything in return, to work along side someone who is willing to coach you on the care, or riding lessons, and consider volinteering at a vet. that works on horses. Tell them what your goal is before you go searching for your horse.
Geldings are more even tempered than mares generally, but a horses behavior is determined by the previous handers so a gelding can be nastry all the time and a mare can be sweet all the time even during her heat cycle, just learn about the horses personality, take an experienced person with you. Make a list of questions about the horses back ground, it's personality under many conditions, and it's experience with different age people, you would be surprised how you can rattle some one that has something to hide with alot of questions or even weed out the traders who know very little about the horse they are tring to sell you, Please stay away from the traders unless you have a very experienced person coming with you, my opion is they will sell you a dangeous animal to make a buck no diffent than the drug dealer who sell's drugs to children.
I hope I have helped and if you would like any more info you can email me.
Carol

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jessicarabbit
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posted 10-18-2003 05:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for jessicarabbit     Edit/Delete Message
they are both good horses but i prefer stallion to a gelding they are better riding

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TR
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posted 10-20-2003 12:43 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for TR     Edit/Delete Message
If you're a new horse owner the best horse for you is probably a gelded or castrated male, otherwise known as a gelding. You would probably do best as a new horse owner with a horse that is ten years old or older and has 'been around the block' or 'bomb proofed' by having been exposed to all kinds of situations in his life.
Stallions, regardless of what kind of 'sweety' their owners think they are, can be unpredictable when exposed to new horses or when in smelling distance of a mare in heat (which can be several miles if the wind is right). They can be Very dangerous to novice owner or handler. Mares are great too, but since mares are rarely spayed due to the cost (usually around $1200 in the US in most places) they too have hormone ebbs and flows that make them unpredictable at times. However, if they don't live near a stallion they are generally not nearly as hard to handle as stallions, and some mares have no problems at all. If you're going to get a gelding, be sure it's one that was castrated at a young age (one or two years old max) and was never used as a stud. Some horses don't forget. Good luck, find a good trainer who will teach you safety, as well as all the fun stuff with your horse!

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saddleup
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posted 10-20-2003 12:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for saddleup     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Megan. It seems you brought up a pretty hot topic. I really feel that unless you are wanting a breeding farm with a stud and many mares, you will be much more satisfied with a gelding. (If you choose later on to do a small amount of breeding, it is more feasable to pay a stud fee, but you will probably find that you would rather buy each horse so you can see what you are getting and not have to wait nearly a year on the birth and then wait even longer on training) In my experience, a gelding is more likely to become a best friend than a stud, and the rides are so much more enjoyable when riding with others. I have taken a stud on rides and really felt left out of the conversations because I had to keep my horse away from the mares. It also was not fair to my stud on overnight rides to have to stand in the trailer all night because he might "get into trouble" if able to get away. I personally find a gelding to be the most pleasurable and relaxing whether I am trail riding or showing. You might also consider taking riding lessons. The instructor will help to pair you with a horse to fit your personality and ability. It is quite possible that when they pair you with the right horse, "it" may very well be the one you want to buy and they may be ready to sell so they can obtain new stock. This avenue would also get you riding sooner than waiting until you move and find a horse to buy, and will teach you valuable information on being an equine owner. You will need to figure out before you buy if you want to just ride your horse of if you want to show. If you choose to show you will want a chance to figure out whether you want to do speed events, western pleasure, etc. You don't want to buy the wrong horse for your area of interest. It would be hard to buy a horse, fall in love, and then find out he is too slow for barrel racing. Good Luck!

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mateybubbles
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posted 10-28-2003 07:12 AM           Edit/Delete Message
Err how come that Jessica rabbit reckons she knows about riding a stallion when elsewhere on this board she's asking about what age to start riding and what type of horse to be on?? Genuine replies only please to people's discussion issues. Don't try to pretend you know stuff you don't. Riding a stallion is seriously only for the experienced rider, they are unpredictable animals and more powerful that you can ever imagine. Not a decision to be taken lightly. If you are unsure about riding a stallion then I would say, that's your decision made, don't. Sorry to sound severe about it but this is quite a serious point and involves personal safety as well as the safety of those around you.

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charmedagain
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posted 10-29-2003 01:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for charmedagain     Edit/Delete Message
All horses wether Mare, Stallion or gelding can be dangerous in the wrong hands.

I Agree join a pong club or something similar to get more experince of horse.

Stallions i have to agree are for people who exerienced and even then the most experienxed of us all will still have problems.

I personally prefer stallions and i can tell you from experience they have a mind of there own when they want to do something they will do it, Even when out on a ride if a stallion plays up they can be hazardous to both you and others around..

You would be better off with a mare or gelding and make sure either is the correct height for you..

A horse that is 100% bomb proof in everything from shaoodin( replacing shoes) to traffic and strange noises..

Good luck with your search and hope you find what your looking for..

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Casey
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posted 10-31-2003 01:46 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Casey     Edit/Delete Message
HI,

I personally think it depends on the horse. Some stallions CAN be trouble but some can be very sweet. My stallion named Jack is the sweetest and is almost bombproof. One thing he loves is to folllow me around the ranch, therefore i hardly use a lead rope! Many say that is risky but when there is a fence around your ranch , hes not gonna go anywhere. Mares are very nice most of the time except when they go into heat then they are worse then ANY stallion or gelding. So what I am trying to say is it depends on the horse. Don't just look for one gender, try them all out! I wish you luck!

Casey

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