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discusluvr
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From:Goshen, New York, U.S.A.
Registered: Feb 2004

posted 03-04-2004 07:36 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for discusluvr     Edit/Delete Message
HI,
i am considering getting a 55 gal. and setting up a salt water tank. I have had a tank since I was a kid (now 30 something). a few questions;
1) is a glass tank or acrylic tank better
2) What kind of filtration?
3) What kind of investment am I looking at
4) How much harder is it to keep a salt water tank as opposed to a fresh water one?
Thanks!

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tina1
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From:Marysville, CA
Registered: Nov 2003

posted 03-04-2004 09:04 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tina1     Edit/Delete Message
I've been looking into doing a saltwater tank for a while as well. I will just pass on what I found out doing some research:

1. A glass tank will be cheaper and less likely to scratch. An acrylic tank will scratch more easily but the scratches can be buffed out and acrylic is supposedly "clearer" than glass.

2. Filtration I never looked into, sorry. But I know it's not your average filter.

3. Big investment!!! You will need a large tank, the stuff to actually make the salt water, something called a protein skimmer, and much more I'm sure. Then there's the livestock. Live rock usually runs about $50 per pound where I live and the fish are anywhere $15-$200. Also, there is generally no guarantee on salt water fish in my corner of the world. They are sold as is and if they die on the way to your house...too bad!

4. I don't think keeping salt water would be much harder if you understand all the aspects of keeping it up before setting the tank up. The same thing as fresh water, if you know what your doing before buying your fish you will most likely have an easier time getting it going than you would if you were clueless about bacteria and whatnot.

Hopefully there are some people here with more knowledge to share with you. I just thought I would throw in my two cents worth. Good luck to you and your future piece of the ocean!

[This message has been edited by tina1 (edited 03-04-2004).]

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ERIC9621
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From:WBL
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posted 03-04-2004 10:15 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ERIC9621     Edit/Delete Message
IF YOU HAVE NOT BOUGHT A TANK YET, I WOULD CONSIDER SPENDING A LITTLE EXTRA AND GOING WITH A 75 GAL. YOU WILL APPRECIATE THE EXTRA 6 INCHES IN WIDTH. ALOT MORE ROOM FOR CAVES AND CORAL( IF YOU ARE GOING TO HAVE CORAL). YOU WILL NEED TO BUY LIVE ROCK. THAT COST IS ABOUT $150. YOU WILL NEED AT LEAST 3 POWER HEADS. THOSE ARE $25-$30 A PIECE. I WOULD RECOMMEND LIVE SAND AS WELL, WITH FINE CRUSHED CORAL MIX. THAT IS ABOUT $75 TO 100. YOU CAN GET BYE WITH A MAGNUM 350 FILTER, BUT MAKE SURE YOU HAVE EITHER LIVE SAND, AND/OR LIVE ROCK. AND MUCH OF IT. LIGHTING IS A TUFF THING TO EXPLAIN. DEPENDING ON WHAT YOU WANT TO BYE FOR CORAL. IF YOU ARE BUYING CORAL(ALWYAS KEEP AS AN OPTION) YOU NEED FOR MORE ADVANCED LIGHTING THAN ON A FRESHWATER TANK. GO TO HELLOLIGHTS.COM.
ANYMORE QUESTIONS FEEL FREE TO ASKE ME.

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katanas_edge
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From:Canada
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posted 03-04-2004 10:41 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
Firts of all you have to decide what kind of tank you want. Fish only (FO), Fish only with live rock (FOWLR), and reef (with coral)are the most common.

FO is basically the same as a freshwater aquarium except you use salt water. For a 55 gallon you'd probably want an adequately sized wet/dry filter and protein skimmer. It's the least expensive salt tank to set up, but is still more costly in terms of equipment, upkeep and especially livestock than fresh.

FOWLR uses liverock/livesand as an filtration aid. It can either be in the tank as a substrate/decoration or in a sump(refugium). The advantage is deep bed livesand can be used to breakdown nitrate and the variety organisms can provide a food source for your fish. High quality liverock is fairly expensive.

Reef tanks are by far the most elaborate, expensive and difficult. They're generally not recommended for people without experience with FO or FOWLR tanks. Set-up properly, they can require very little maintenance beyond addition of nutrients and "top up" water. However, expect to pay a lot to set one up. Specialty equipment includes metal halide lights, lots of powerheads for water movement, and a variety of filtration "methods". Fish and corals are both very expensive. They're nice though.

Acrylic tanks are more expensive. Their advantage is that they are stronger/kg meaning lighter tanks. As well, they can be easily shaped into bow, concave, circular and rounded tanks without visible seams. They do scratch easier, but buff kits can be bought to remove light scrapes. Acrylic tank manufacturers claim that there is less refraction than through glass, which causes distortion when looking at a tank from an angle.

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discusluvr
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From:Goshen, New York, U.S.A.
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posted 03-04-2004 10:58 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for discusluvr     Edit/Delete Message
WOW!!
Great information. Thanks very much for your replies.

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fishfood
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posted 03-04-2004 01:09 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for fishfood     Edit/Delete Message
TO TELL YOU THE TRUTH, MARINE TANKS ARE EXPENSIVE. EVERYTHING IS. SAND, ROCK, FISH, LIGHTS, AND FILTERS. OK LIGHTING WILL RUN YOU A COUPLE HUNDRED, GOOD LIGHTING WILL RUN YOU $800 BUCKS OR MORE IF YOU GO WITH HALIDES....AND YOU SHOULD IF YOU DO GO MARINE. NOT ONLY DOES THE TANK AND EVERYTHINK IN IT LOOK BETTER, BUT IT IS REQUIRED FOR SEVERAL SPECIES OF CORALS, CLAMS, AND OTHER LIVE THINGS.

NOW WHEN YOU ARE TALKING ABOUT PROTIEN SKIMMERS (A MUST) THEY ARE A COUPLE HUNDRED TOO. I SUGGEST SEA CLONES. YOU HAVE TO MAKE A SMALL MODIFICATION BUT IT WORKS SO GREAT!!!

POWER HEADS AREN'T TOO SPENDY BUT DEFINATLY NEEDED. FISH LOVE IT.

THERE IS ONE SHORT CUT YOU CAN MAKE. BUY BIG CHUNKS OF LACE ROCK AND MIX IT WITH SMALL INEXPENIVE LIVE ROCK PIECES. YOU'LL NEED LIVE SAND FOR THIS. THE RULTS WILL TAKE A LITTLE TIME BUT IS WELL WORTH IT.

ONE THING YOU'LL FIND IS THAT EVERYONE HAS DIFFERNT OPINIONS ABOUT EVERYTHING. FIND A SMALL AQUATICS STORE AND SPEAK TO A CLERK THAT YOU THINK KNOWS HIS STUFF AND THAT'LL HELP YOU SET UP.

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