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 ok just wonderin can u eat triops_ cause there shrimp and all (iam not going to lol)
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| Author | Topic: ok just wonderin can u eat triops_ cause there shrimp and all (iam not going to lol) |
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jamin_rb Member  Posts: 55 |
posted 02-15-2004 04:03 PM
 
just wonderin l IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-15-2004 07:03 PM
I have no idea, but even if you could, they only get about 2" so I don't think they would be worth the effort. My oscars on the other hand love them. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-15-2004 10:14 PM
Yes you could, may actually be quite tasty. You should saute some up and let us know! Use Garlic and lots of butter! IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-16-2004 02:00 PM
hey someguy how about u eat a few then tell me what they taste like then ill have some and u better not lie lol [This message has been edited by Hooben (edited 02-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-16-2004 09:27 PM
I was being realativly serious  I have eaten my Oscars before, I would have no problem downing a triops. And, I bet they dont taste too bad.IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-16-2004 09:53 PM
quote: Wait a minute. You have actually taken an oscar out of your aquarium and ate it? Or do you mean have you eaten a wild oscar? If I actually liked fish, I would try oscar, but not one of mine. And I don't think I'm going to try cooking up triops any time soon. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-17-2004 07:21 AM
If you read the labels on all of the bottles of stuff that go in an aquarium (chlorine remover, stress coat, meds etc.) it says do NOT use on fish intended for consumption. The fact that it would be like eating my pet dog aside, I don't think it'd be too good for you. IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-17-2004 08:04 AM
Well, I dont use anything but the thing called Water in my tanks Yes chelle, by one big Oscar drew blood on me one too many times, and was massive trouble in the tank. So, tried Oscar, and it was GOOD. IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-17-2004 01:31 PM
good news and bad today iam starting to c some action in my tank the triops are beging to grow they look like roots or something and i dont know i might try one but then agien i probably wont lol but today i also bought a few goldfish for my sister there werent that cool when i first put them in the tank but now there flying around and they look sweet but no iam not going to ask if i can eat them lol
jamin_rb, [This message has been edited by Hooben (edited 02-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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LeeTron Member Posts: 104 |
posted 02-17-2004 01:58 PM
bon appetite!! IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-17-2004 02:02 PM
For some reason, my last batch that hatched all died after about 3 days; I'm not sure why. But I just got another batch hatching today. I'm not sure I would describe them as looking like roots, though. Here's some pics from my triop diary: Day 1: Day 4: Day 8: Day 16: It's amazing how fast they grow. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-17-2004 02:06 PM
sweet pics there
or u could just call them soome scary looking freaky fish lol do they have a hard shell top on them????? IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-17-2004 02:08 PM
and are they like sucker fish do they clean ur tank for u kinda IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-17-2004 08:15 PM
The shell isn't really hard. It will bend easier than say, a fingernail. And they will probably eat food scraps and some algae, but for some reason, they don't seem to do too good in aquariums. I tried one in my 10 gallon and it died after a day and I know of someone else who had the same thing happen. I'm not sure why, though. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-17-2004 11:27 PM
I am very easy going, but do not under any circumstances, take that as a weekness my friend. JSG Just some guy, I had to edit out most of your post because the topic wasn't appropriate. I already warned jamin about calling people names. Please be careful in the future as this is a family website. Lets keep it friendly and we must keep our topics Thanks, [This message has been edited by Hooben (edited 02-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-18-2004 05:36 AM
N/P, but I did think it was worded quite well IP: Logged |
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LeeTron Member Posts: 104 |
posted 02-18-2004 11:11 AM
JustSomeguy, Even though Oscars are an important food fish for people in their native South America, you gotta admit that eating a pet is wierd, to say the least, even if it's a non-cuddling pet like a fish. It also takes some real chutzpa to broadcast the fact that you did this on a fish lovers website. You might have frightened some people into never listening to your advice ever again. That said, I'm curious: With all the time, effort, and food put into raising your meal, what do you think was the true cost of your fish dinner? IP: Logged |
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fishybiz Member Posts: 146 |
posted 02-18-2004 11:41 AM
that is very cool t-chelle (in a weird sort of way)....the pics. What are they? What are they for? Are they expensive? What do you have them in with? How do you first get them?...eggs? Sorry about all the questions but they look kind of cool. Oh, and JSG.... That is really gross.... [This message has been edited by fishybiz (edited 02-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-18-2004 12:03 PM
u can go to walmart and buy some they only cost like 5 dollors and they come in eggs which hatch into little shrip kinda things there pretty kewl yes There called triops and there kinda like feeder fish or they can be used as feeder fish anyways
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:01 PM
They're mainly intended to be sort of like sea monkeys. A simple little pet that kids can hatch and watch grow. But I use them as feeders for my oscars. Here is a more in depth version of my triop diary. It includes the full life of the very first batch I hatched up until day one of my second batch. http://www.oscarfish.com/viewtopic.php?t=21379& -Chelle IP: Logged |
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red devil 2 Member Posts: 200 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:28 PM
wait a minute arent they like prehistoric i have a fossil of one also how do you feed them? IP: Logged |
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red devil 2 Member Posts: 200 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:31 PM
also do they need filtration or heat and what kind of ph IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:33 PM
Nobody needs to listen to me anyways My tank is farther advanced than 99% of tanks out there, so i am working on a different set of variables anyways Seeing as I hadnt raised him, but aquired him, he was worth it IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:39 PM
The kit comes with triop food (for the first couple days you have to crush it) but they also eat regular fish flakes and they like algae waffers, but I don't give them those very often because it fouls the water quickly. I don't use filtration or a heater. I just 100% water changes every few days and my bedroom generally stays at least 75*. The pH from my tap is 7.8 but they seem pretty hardy so they can probably survive a wide variety of water conditions. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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red devil 2 Member Posts: 200 |
posted 02-18-2004 01:44 PM
jsg stop your making me never want to see an oscar again and no offense but i have seen better tanks then yours but they were really really good. IP: Logged |
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fishybiz Member Posts: 146 |
posted 02-18-2004 02:02 PM
thanks t-chelle, I read your diary with pics- very cool! I am surprised at how big the one got. I may get them for a friends kids because their parents wont let them have an aquarium-- this will teach the parent!!! HA! I will take a bowl and triops over -- HEHEHE IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-18-2004 02:10 PM
Red, never said it was the nicest. There is always someone out there nicer. What I said is it is more advanced than 99%, with the technology behind it. It is not gravel swept, and does not require water changes. Its a naturall enviroment. You can hate oscars, or me, thats ok. As we are all different people. You can think its nasty to eat the fish, your aloud to do that. but, you are are going to have a harder time proving my tank is not a far superior home aquarium in way of water quality, and maintence. IP: Logged |
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Fish Addict Member Posts: 122 |
posted 02-18-2004 05:35 PM
hey justsomeguy what kind of filters do you use and how would i get my tank to be like your ?? IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-18-2004 10:09 PM
I am using a DIY large bio-chamber of about 70 gallons, and then a 100 or so gallon sump with tomatoe plants growing under a 1000 w metal halide. Sand in the tank, in a nice equalibrium of trumpet snails, that the Oscars keep in check. Turn over I am still experimenting with, I have had it as high as almost 3000gph actuall, and as low as 500gph actuall. Right now, its at about 2000gph. Tempature is another thing I am messing with also. Actually having trouble keeping 70+F at the moment, which about the time I get that figured out, Ill be trying to keep it cool...lol IP: Logged |
kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 02-18-2004 10:25 PM
Hi JSG, Just as a guess, I'm guessing the reason you're having a problem maintaining temperature is because the current flow is so high that the water doesn't have enough contact time with the heater to warm it up. Possible solution is to go to a 3 or 4 heater system. 1 or 2 heaters in the tank, 1 in the bio-chamber and 1 in the sump. Good luck. IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-18-2004 10:28 PM
Actually, I think know what the biggest problem is. My sump is sitting directly on a plywood floor, and has a pretty big surface area, and the floor is not insulated. So its acting as a big heat conductor. I just need to insulate under the sump with some blue fiber board, and I do think that should help out a ton. I already run 3 seperate heaters, located in diffeent places, as the water travles about 25 feet or so one way to the sump, and another 25 back. [This message has been edited by JustSomeGuy (edited 02-18-2004).] IP: Logged |
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red devil 2 Member Posts: 200 |
posted 02-19-2004 06:12 AM
Just as a fact I don't hate oscars or you and so what your saying is you don't use chemicals or anything in your tank just a filter and a heater. Intresting. IP: Logged |
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JustSomeGuy Member Posts: 65 |
posted 02-19-2004 06:40 AM
Yes Red, no checmicals in my tank. I never have used any chemicals, even on my smaller tanks. I do have to feed very heavy though, to keep all the nutes up in the tank for the plants. IP: Logged |
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red devil 2 Member Posts: 200 |
posted 02-19-2004 11:04 AM
i found a good link on triops and how to take care of them. http://rds.yahoo.com/S=2766679/K=triops/v=2/SID=e/l=WS1/R=1/H=0/*-http://www.wzip.uakron.edu/biology/triops.html IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-19-2004 11:09 AM
A total of 170 gallons for a refugium seems somewhat large to me - what size tank is it for. Did you try smaller and find it didn't work? Also, why tomatoes - for the edibility? A guy who set up a 220 used a 55 gallon "nitrate polisher" with hornwort. The other advantage of hornwort is it oxygenates the water. Another that I've heard works well because of it's rampant growth is water hyacinth - but it's not legal everywhere for the same reason. A common plant for garden pond filtration is Norfolk Reed, but that would grow too tal indoors and I don't know if it could survive constantly being cut back. In salt and reef tanks they use algae and liverock - and they've started manufacturing algae filters although I've read mixed reviews on them. Does anyone here run FOWLR or reef systems? Is there anything new that you're doing? One interesting thing that this made me think of is rather than a sump set it up as a hydrophonics operation. I don't know if nutrients would be concentrated enough for this. Why stop at tomatoes? When the RCMP break down the door you can say "But officer - it's for the medicinal treatment of my fish!" IP: Logged |
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fishfinder Member Posts: 38 |
posted 02-19-2004 11:36 AM
Are triops sea monkeys? IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-19-2004 11:48 AM
No. "Sea monkeys" are brine shrimp. But the basic idea is the same: add water & watch them grow. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-19-2004 12:50 PM
I was reading an article about European triops that grow to 11cm and live a little longer than American ones. They might make better feeders if you can find them (and import them legally?) IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-19-2004 02:18 PM
wow iam amazed at how many people repieled to my topic on the wierdest thing
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 02-19-2004 02:47 PM
Hi katanas_edge, VERY MARGINAL. I'm in Texas. You don't have to be from Canada or California. LOL IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-20-2004 06:33 AM
Sorry KC, for the kids out there - I in no way endorse or approve of the use of the aquarium hobby for purpose of committing a felony offense. The RCMP will get you - the mounties always get their man! (seriously - just my attempt at a bad joke) Back to the topic of triops, I haven't seen them around - has anyone else in Western Canada come across them? [This message has been edited by katanas_edge (edited 02-20-2004).] [This message has been edited by katanas_edge (edited 02-20-2004).] IP: Logged |
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jamin_rb Member Posts: 55 |
posted 02-20-2004 09:20 AM
what do u mean seen them i have them and mine arnt growinng and its making me mad  w/e though they dont cost that much and i didnt even use all of the seeds IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-20-2004 10:41 AM
I'm really having trouble keeping my new batches alive. The last two times I've has about 10 hatch then within about 3 days, they all die. I'm not doing anything differently than I have in the past so I don't know what's going on. My remaining adult triop died a couple days ago (old age) so I only have one batch of eggs left. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-20-2004 11:07 AM
It could be a change in your local water system (if you're still using tap water). Try aging the water for 4-5 days (aerater in a bucket). Might help...? IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 02-20-2004 11:09 AM
Hi t_chelle16, I know you are doing complete water changes periodically. Are you rinsing the gravel out occasionally when you do this? What I'm thinking is the possibility of old tank syndrome. IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-20-2004 11:42 AM
As the 2nd batch got bigger, I did rinse the sand when I cleaned it. My 1st attempt at raising a 3rd batch came from some of that rinsed sand and they all died after a couple days so I was thinking that maybe the chlorine was somehow damaging the eggs when I rinsed the sand. After that batch failed, I still had the adult triop laying eggs so I stopped rinsing the sand, but two days later, I only have 2 baby triops from that batch of sand. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 02-20-2004 12:12 PM
One site I read from a university researcher studying them said he hatched them by placing mesh in the tank as a medium for the triops to lay the eggs on. He could then take them out and dry them as he liked. I can't remember the site, but I found it through google.ca (google.com will give different, but probably still adequate sites) IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 02-20-2004 02:17 PM
Hi t_chelle16, Knowing how well you maintain your tanks,I have to really think of some things that are a little off the wall. Some hand soaps, especially the antibacterial type, if not rinsed off well can be devastating in a tank. I had one customer who put perfume on the pulse point on here wrist, which is common for a lot of women. With the perfume on her wrist and then working in her tank she was killing out her fish. IF the Triop tank is close to a high humidity area like a dishwasher or washing machine where pesticide has been sprayed, then everytime that unit is turned on the temperature and humidity will cause pesticide fumes which can get into the pump or an open filtration system. Other than that I would have to believe that the eggs themselves have somehow become contaminated. IP: Logged |
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LeeTron Member Posts: 104 |
posted 02-20-2004 03:33 PM
All five of my triops died after a 100% water change. IP: Logged |
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t_chelle16 Member Posts: 501 |
posted 02-20-2004 07:49 PM
I've always kept the triops on my computer desk or on my aquarium stand next to my desk. And I'm using the same 1/2 gallon fish bowl I've used in the past (just cleaned with plain water, no soap). If this batch doesn't work, I may just give up on them. -Chelle IP: Logged |
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