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mags
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posted 02-09-2004 04:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
my fish have been with me for about one month. One is lying on it's side and is not moving. The other one appears to be fine, and I'm really worried. Help me fast!

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red devil 2
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posted 02-09-2004 04:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
will he has swimmers bladder which is hard to get rid of cheack the ammonia ph nitrite and nitrate and tell me what it is also how big is your fish, how big is your tank and what kind of filter do you have

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mags
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posted 02-09-2004 04:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
I don't have a filter, I clean the bowl by hand, and my bowl is a little smaller than the average goldfish bowl.Please help!

[This message has been edited by mags (edited 02-09-2004).]

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red devil 2
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posted 02-09-2004 04:53 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
to clean the boal you need to do a 25 percent water change thats when you take 25% of the water out of the boal and put in 25 percent conditiond water in and it has to be the same tempreture

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mags
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posted 02-09-2004 05:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
i know how to clean a bowl, I just need help!

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red devil 2
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posted 02-09-2004 05:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
add half a table spone of aquarium salt for every 1 gallon

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mags
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posted 02-09-2004 05:47 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
I don't want to be rude, but I need help fast and time is running out. she's nearly dead, and I love her!

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red devil 2
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posted 02-09-2004 05:55 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
and make ph neatural and lower ammonia and nitrite and nitrate by doing a water change like i told you

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red devil 2
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posted 02-09-2004 05:56 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
and add half a table spoon of aquarium salt for every 1 gallon also there should be medication at your nearest store but the least you could do now if you dont have aquarium salt is do the water change

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posted 02-09-2004 06:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks and sorry. I'll do as much as I can and I aprechiate your help that could make the difference between life and death.

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mags
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posted 02-10-2004 04:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
I think she died but I don't know how to tell she's not breathing. Thanks a lot.

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mags
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posted 02-10-2004 05:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for mags     Edit/Delete Message
Red Devil 2 -
This is Mags' mom. Thank you for helping her yesterday. She is young, but wanted to find help on her own -- this is the first time we let her use a UBB. She's been very good about following all directions for the care of her fish and your attention really helped her.
We did as you suggested but it didn't help little Juliette. Mags is so sad. We told her that she can use her allowance to get a tank and filter for Romeo (her surviving fish) so he has a better environment.
Thanks again. You really made a difference in helping my little girl through this.

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-10-2004 09:12 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
If you will tell us what kind of fish Romeo is, we can help you figure out what size tank, filtration, and other supplies you will need to keep it alive and healthy.

Also, if it was in a small bowl, my guess is the water parameters were off and it probably died of ammonia poisoning because the bowl was too small. In which case the salt wouldn't have done anything.

-Chelle

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red devil 2
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posted 02-10-2004 03:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
it would have helped against the swimmers bladder and i got about 20 books to prove it

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dianenm
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posted 02-10-2004 03:34 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dianenm     Edit/Delete Message
Sometimes fish just die and there's nothing you can do to stop it. It's very sad and frustrating, I know : (
I"m sorry your fish died.

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red devil 2
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posted 02-10-2004 04:21 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
same with me your fish was probley at such a bad level there was no fixing it. well at least hes in fish heaven

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-10-2004 09:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
"it would have helped against the swimmers bladder and i got about 20 books to prove it"

All mags said was the fish was laying on its side. This is NOT enough information to make the conclusion that is had swim bladder problems. There are A TON of fish diseases that will cause a fish to lay on it's side (some fish even lay on their sides when sleeping).

And quite honestly, it is very inappropriate and dangerous to jump to a conclusion about a diagnosis like that and insist on a treatment when you know so little about the what is going on. For all you knew, it could have been a scaleless fish or some other fish that is salt sensitive and the salt that you recommended could have killed it.

My point is, you need to know more about the situation before making a diagnosis and recommending treatment.

Also, aquarium salt will NOT help with swim bladder problems. Aquarium salt is for helping to regenerate the slime coat, aiding in the healing of wounds, and helping to get rid of ich. Epsom salt, which is completely different than aquarium salt, is for drawing fluid out of the body and helping with bloating and some cases of swim bladder.

-Chelle

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posted 02-10-2004 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for thor1182     Edit/Delete Message
My GF has a Beta that seems to have a problem with its air bladder. Here's a recap of the situation.

It used to be a friendly fish, now it sits on the bottom hiding, ocasionally moving to eat.

When she got it it was in a 1 gallon tak or so with an airater, and no filter. It shared the tank with a ghost catfish. We changed a bit too much water, didn't make sure it was the right temprature, and maybe a few more things before we put them back in the tank. Well the cat fish was fine but the beta started to sit on the bottom on it's side some times and just sit there.

Recently I got here a 5 gallon tank with a filter, heater, but no airater. The tank was running for about a day, and was up to about the same temp before we transfered over the fish to the new tank. The catfish is fine and seems to be enjoying the new tank alot more, but the beta still sits on the bottom and hides in the castle in the tank. he sometimes moves to get food, but has trouble swimming.

So what do we do?

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LeeTron
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posted 02-10-2004 10:06 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for LeeTron     Edit/Delete Message
Thor,

You are likely to get a better response if you start a new discussion thread with your question.

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