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Fish Addict
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posted 02-04-2004 05:44 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all look for the best filter for 108 gal tank i don't if i should go with a hangover the back filter or a canister fitler i want to find the best thing out there for the least amont of money
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posted 02-04-2004 06:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dvross     Edit/Delete Message
The best filter would be a wet/dry. Barring that, I would prefer the cannister over the HOB filter anyday. They're much more efficient and do a remarkable job at both biological and mechanical filtration.

As a recommendation I suggest the Eheim cannisters. For that size tank, a 2028 would be awesome. The 2128 is the same filter with an integrated heater. This would keep the tank a bit cleaner looking.

If you're looking to save money, go with a Rena Filstar XP3 or an Eheim 2217.

p.s. If you really want to be fancy, get two. This will provide you with a bit of redundancy should one fail. If you go with two, go with the Eheim 2026 or 2126 on the high end. Low cost recommendations are the same in this case.

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posted 02-04-2004 09:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
hi dvross thanks for replying i was just wonder how much better quality is the wet\dry compared to the canister i have looked at the filters you recommonded and i found this site is that the wet/dry would you recommonded http://www.superfishstore.com/eheim%20filters2.htm
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posted 02-04-2004 09:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dvross     Edit/Delete Message
Me and a bunch of my mates actually purchased from a single e-tailer on Ebay. He makes a very high quality product, is extremly friendly, good shipping and most of all honest (and no I don't work for him )
http://www.stores.ebay.com/id=8472162&ssPageName=L2

I personally run this model on my 125 gallon. It's paired with a Mag Drive MD1800 pump and about 20 dollars worth of PVC and PVC Supplies to make the return lines:


The deal with wet/drys is that although they have a higher initial learning curve for setup and maintenance - once you get the hang of it, nothing can touch it as far as its ability to keep your water sparkling clean. Because the water is oxygenated from being gravity fed through the bio-ball chamber, there's no need to have to agitate the aquarium surface to aid in oxygenation - so the tank top is still as a pond but super rich in oxygen nonetheless.

There's two stages of mechanical filtration on this: The first is the filter pad wraps on the overflow risers and the second is a similar material spread evenly on the drip tray (which cannot be seen in the photo).

I've paid the extra $30 bucks to fill the chamber up completely with bioballs so there is more than enough surface area for the nitrifying bacteria to grow. This filter could easily handle a 250 gallon tank.

The overflows are rated at 1700 gph and the pump is rated at 1600 gph (approximately) at 4 ft so I'm running 1600 gallons per hour through the tank. I don't even have to vacuum the substrate anymore. I quit after trying 3 times and getting nothing .

Let me know if you decide to go that route and I can help you work your way through the process.

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posted 02-04-2004 09:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
? for you how is it hooked up to the tank you don't have it put holes in the tank right ??

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posted 02-04-2004 10:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dvross     Edit/Delete Message
The box hanging off the sump in the picture is called the overflow. There are 3 parts to that component. It sits over the back edge of the tank with the blue box (skimmer) on the inside and the white box (with riser tubes) on the outside. There are U-Tubes that sit with one side in each box.

Connected to the back of the overflow are the two 1 1/4 drain tubes with connect to the input elbows on the top of the sump. Both the overflow and skimmer are filled with water. The U-Tubes are also filled completely with water (no air bubbles at all).

The 'basic' theory is this. The water will flow into the skimmer box as long as the water level in the tank is above the highest edge. Since the U-Tube is full of water it works to maintain equilibrium between the skimmer and the overflow. In other words if the water rises in the skimmer, it will allow water to pass through these tubes to make the water level the same in the overflow. Water is constantly flowing into the skimmer, thus it is constantly flowing through the U-Tubes, into the overflow and down through the drains. Eventually the water level would drop below the skimmer edge and the siphon would stop. The beauty of the system is that the pump is pushing it back into the tank - so as the water levels rise,it starts flowing again. It's basically a closed loop system.

there's a bit more to it than that but that's the basic idea. Sorry if it isn't clear enough - I'm a bit tired.

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posted 02-05-2004 06:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
hey dvross what do you think about this filter http://www.superfishstore.com/Eheim2229WetDrycanister.htm

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posted 02-05-2004 08:11 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dvross     Edit/Delete Message
Those are excellent filters... I can never recommend Eheim enough. They are the cadillacs of the cannister world..

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posted 02-05-2004 04:07 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
ok thanks for all your help dvross i think i will go withe Eheim 229 wet/dry Canister or eheim new pro II 2028 which one would you pick out of the two ??
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posted 02-06-2004 06:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
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posted 02-07-2004 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustSomeGuy     Edit/Delete Message
DVross is very knowlegable. I seen you are going to go canister, but you should just reconsider it. Thats how much better a wet/dry set up is.

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posted 02-07-2004 04:43 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Fish Addict     Edit/Delete Message
i just don't want to be drilling holes in a brand new aquarium i can 't bring my self to do that

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posted 02-08-2004 09:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for JustSomeGuy     Edit/Delete Message
Whoa brother, you dont need to drill holes in your new tank!!!! Use whtas called an Overflow.

They hang on the back of your tank, and suck water out via a safety syphon.

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