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posted 01-31-2004 12:36 PM         

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i have a 6inch oscar and i want to put in a 2inch with him. hes not a very aggressive oscar but i dont know how he will repond to the little one. if i separated them until the little one is bigger will the big one still pick on it or will he get used to it
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posted 01-31-2004 01:04 PM         

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oscars do not fight. they will only bother or eat what they can fit into there mouth.

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posted 01-31-2004 10:59 PM         

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THEY WILL BE FINE I HAD A 6IN OSCAR I PUT IN 2 1IN OSCARS AND NOW THEY SWIM IN A PACK IM NOT EVEN JOKING

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posted 02-01-2004 06:47 AM         

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i still have my little one
(about 2 inch)seperate from my other two a 6 inch albino and a 3 inch tiger.
they dont try to eat him they just beat the hell out of him so i moved him to my 10 gallon till he gets atleast 3-4 inch. then i will put him in with the others

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posted 02-01-2004 05:03 PM         

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My 7 inch oscar beula keeps my 4 inch oscar, LuLu in a corner. I had to completely rearrange the tank so Beula would have to pick "new territory". She now allows LuLu out.

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posted 02-01-2004 09:30 PM         

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In your previous post you mentioned you had a 29g. Your tank isn't big enough for two adult oscars.

As far as introducing smaller fish. There's absolutely no guarantee he won't be bullied or eaten. Some O's are tolerant and some aren't. Be prepared to snatch him/her out if it doesn't work. As AngelGirl said, sometimes rearranging the decor works wonders by removing the "Territorial Boundaries" that you water dogs like to mark. But this is not a definitive solution.

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posted 02-02-2004 08:03 AM         

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no its not a 29 its a 35 and ive gotten more ppl saying it would be fine. ive already gotten it and they swim around together and never fight.

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posted 02-02-2004 10:09 AM         

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there's a whole 6 gallons difference. It's ultimately your decision but you're not making a very wise one with regards to the long-term health of your fish. Sure it can live in it because it physically fits. But by that same logic you yourself can live in a closet because you fit as well. That's not enough room for the fish to 'thrive', and that's the difference between surviving and thriving. Oscars are very hardy fish - and because of this, they take alot of abuse before they show physical damage. Maybe this is the reason too many people think his 12" fish can live in a 30 gallon tank - I don't know. Whatever the reason you're doing your fish a disservice and you should really take a moment to think about it.

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posted 02-02-2004 05:43 PM         

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well ive already gotten the fish and i dont need anymore replys so thanks for the help

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posted 02-02-2004 05:46 PM         

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puff do it yur way and do it how you like.. its your fish anyways but i would recommend that it isnt like cruelty but if there small oscars its not like you need a huge tank yet.. soem ppl are finatics and it bugs me

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posted 02-02-2004 06:12 PM         

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Oscars are very messy fish. They grow to be atleast 12 inches long, and will not fit in a 35 gallon tank. Oscars are larger fish that produce 30 percent of their body weight in watery, ammonia-filled fish waste that can poison them slowly over time and cause them to die. It's not a question of doing it ''your way'', it's a question of doing the right thing so that your fish is happy and it thrives. Imagine living in a closet, in your own waste. How would you like it? A 35 gallon tank isn't enough to support the bioload of 2 Oscars. Seriously, and not because I'm a ''fanatic''.

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posted 02-02-2004 06:58 PM         

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puff do it yur way and do it how you like.. its your fish anyways but i would recommend that it isnt like cruelty but if there small oscars its not like you need a huge tank yet.. soem ppl are finatics and it bugs me
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That's pitiful advice. I truly emplore you to research the requirements of Astronotus Oscellatus before you start telling people it's OK to pack them in a shoebox.

Two O's will quickly outgrow that 29 and then you're left with an interesting dilemma. Either you play stubborn and your fish suffer ammonia/nitrite/nitrate poisoning, stunting and most likely HITH/HLLE OR you do the right thing and get a sufficient sized tank FIRST. This will save you money in the long run. You'll only have to purchase, cycle and maintain a single tank instead of 2. It frankly amazes me how apathetic and uncaring some people are to their fish.

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posted 02-02-2004 07:49 PM         

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How can any of youeven possibly think that, thirty-five Gallons is close enough for addiquate space for not one but two oscars? In my oppinion what many people are saying is pure ignorance, and white stating that i belive everyone needs a lesson in tolerance. Many people disregard the correct ways to do things because they cant tolerate it to say that they are doing it incorectley. Also, many people need a lesson in biology one is in a state of pure absentmindness if they can even think that fish ony grow to the sise of a given tank. Or that there fish are happy, For all of you who comply to what i am saying, I pitty you, and see you as imature in unaccepting your unrichous ways.

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posted 02-02-2004 08:03 PM         

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Ok, I can not believe the bad advice here.

DVROSS and mewantfood are about the only sensible ones here.

Now, I know, everyone can be think headed, but just a picture of caution.

This is an average sized full grown oscar, goes 14".

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posted 02-02-2004 08:08 PM         

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posted 02-02-2004 08:14 PM         

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OK OK leave me alone, i already have the fish, ill consider getting a bigger tank . but if anybody is WILLING TO LEND ME 500$ it aint gonna happen for a year or so so STOP replying to this question!!!!!

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posted 02-02-2004 08:15 PM         

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and its not a 29 gallon its a 35, i dont care if thats just a 6gallon difference its still ******* ** ***!!
Hi puff, Please be careful of the language. This is a family forum with young readers.

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posted 02-03-2004 04:32 AM         

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Puff: ok, nobody is attacking you...you already bought the fish and its not only 6 gallons of water, but the actual dementions of the tank. Do your fishy friends a favor and go to your local walmart and pick up a complete 55 (includes filter etc) and it will run you about $250.00...its better than $500 and that price includes the stand. Good luck.

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posted 02-03-2004 10:06 AM         

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get a bigger tank **** *** . your fish is going to die and have deformed fins because he is to big for the tank

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posted 02-03-2004 10:21 AM         

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"and its not a 29 gallon its a 35, i dont care if thats just a 6gallon difference its still ******* ** **!!"

Even a 35 gallon tank isn't big enough for 1 oscar. We're only trying to help. You really need to keep the best interest of your fish in mind. They are living beings and deserve proper care. I can guarantee that if you try to keep both of them in that tank, they will be severely stunted, sickly and won't even come close to living a normal lifespan.

A healthy, full grown oscar can get 14" - 16" long (not including the tail) and 5" - 6" tall. Try this: take some paper and cut out 2 ovals that are 14" x 5" and tape them to the front of your aquarium. After doing that, can you honestly tell me you think that tank is going to be big enough?

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posted 02-03-2004 04:46 PM         

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i have a question about this.. how big can the oscars be before transferring them to a bigger tank.. couldnt they get like 4 inches before you get a bigger tank?

cause i have 2 oscars in a 75.. and they are about 5 inches each.. when will they need a bigger tank?

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posted 02-03-2004 04:50 PM         

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They won't unless you have problems with aggression. This one is very hard to predict. 2 O's will live quite nicely in a 75. They would prefer something larger but you are well within the minimum tank requirements. Just make sure your filtration is adequate. This assumes a 10x turnover if using HOB filters and a 3x-5x turnover if using cannisters or wet/dry's.

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posted 02-03-2004 04:53 PM         

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alright thnaks alot.. i will try to get a something bigger as the oscar get bigger.. thanks for the help dvross you really know what yur talking about. the oscars do seem to get along nicely but as you ssaid agression is unpredictable thanks!!

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posted 02-04-2004 03:54 PM         

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yah i know your not fisically attacking me but having 7 mail messages a day can get REALLY ANNOYING and calling me a **** *** isnt going to help my fish skid. when i have the money then ill try and get that one from wallmart thats 55gallons but my walmart is welfare and probably wont have it so ill look around. thank you for the help and STOP REPLYING TO THIS MESSAGE. it is over by my standards and anymore replys wont be read , just deleted and a waste of your time.thank you.

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posted 02-04-2004 05:09 PM         

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Well puff, allot of times these threads go into a direction, much like this one is. If you dont need anymore info from it, dont read it anymore. But the last thing you want to do is start hollering to quite posting to it.

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posted 02-04-2004 05:22 PM         

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And here's another thought. This thread, although posted by you, is for the benefit of every other aquarist that may read it. For that reason it is important to not only answer your question, but answer it thoroughly and correctly for anyone else who may read it with a similar problem. Don't take it as a personal harrassment. Often times just because YOU started it, doesn't mean WE can't discuss it. perhaps you can turn off your personal notification for the thread to ease your pain..

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