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cops5476
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From:iowa
Registered: Dec 2003

posted 01-19-2004 12:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for cops5476     Edit/Delete Message
do goldfish need air pumps?

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!fuzzypeach!
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posted 02-05-2004 07:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for !fuzzypeach!     Edit/Delete Message
no, just as long as oyu have a gallon for every inch of fish and they should be fine.more surface area of the tank will also get more air in the tank, also get some live plants and they should live little happy lives.

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-05-2004 10:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
That gallon/inch rule ONLY applies to small bodied fish like tetras, barbs, and danios. And even then, you have to take into consideration the ADULT size of the fish.

The rule of thumb for goldfish is 10 gallons/fish (believe it or not, goldfish get quite large).

As for aeration, as long as your filter is agitating the surface of the water, you should be fine.

-Chelle

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gr8fuljames
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posted 02-06-2004 07:40 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for gr8fuljames     Edit/Delete Message
Realy it depends on what type of goldfish you buy. some require 30 gal. and some will even grow into a 50 or 55 gal. I know alot of people won't agree with me but then again alot of people put them into bowls and they only live for those people for a short time.
go to this link it has an index of several goldfish click on the info next to the goldfish your interested in then it might try to give you a video download but thats not needed. then scroll down a ways and it has the requirements for a good home for that fish.http://www.aquariumfish.net/indexes/goldfish_and_koi.htm

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Samsintentions
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From:Columbus, Tx ,USA
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posted 02-06-2004 11:00 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Samsintentions     Edit/Delete Message
I have gold fish...

My experiances have taught me never to use a thermometer heater...they will grow. no matter what breed. I have a normal feeder fish that was a 1/2 inch when I got him and until he died he grew to about 13" long, and weighed in over 3 lbs....
I currently have two fantails...one I got at the same time as the feeder, he's the size of a soft ball, and the other I got a month later is the size of a tennis ball....
They out grew their 10 gal, then the 30, now their in a 50.... Ihave two air pumps that seem to help withthe currents, and debris build up.

I've also got 2 filters. Goldfish have to be the nastiest fish out there... I can clean their tanks, and the next day, its foggy and slimy again. I have two alge eaters. one's about 12" long and the other is smaller.....so its not alge. I was told its from the slime on them??

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katanas_edge
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posted 02-07-2004 07:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
10 gallons/inch goldfish seems a little much (that would require a 120 gallon tank for one fish!) but they do get large and require a fair bit of space. They are coldwater fish, and if the tank is kept cooler they will grow slower and live longer. As far as being nasty, they can be. My brother ponds his fish in the summer and brings them in for the winter. The ponds big enough to stay clean, but sometimes you can hardly see the fish in the aquarium. Use a lot of mechanical and biological filtration and do weekly water changes to keep nitrates low.

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-07-2004 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
Actually, I said 10 gallons per fish (not inch of fish). But as someone else pointed out, that's on the low end and they really should have more than that.

-Chelle

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katanas_edge
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posted 02-09-2004 07:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
My mistake, sorry. I have read several items on sizing tanks for goldfish. Many size by surface area of the tank, but my fish tend to use the whole volume (top to bottom). I'm of the opinion that it is the overall volume and filtration requirements that matter most. As well, common GF and comets are fast, active swimmers and require several body lengths of tank so you may be looking at a 3 to 4 ft long tank for one fully grown fish (12" is not unrealistic). They are not territorially aggressive though, so more the size requirement is not for linear for more than one fish. It doesn't say how many GF you have, but a 55 gallon would probably be fine for quite awhile. Other types like lionheads/bubble eyes etc. aren't effective swimmers and therefore the biggest requirement is bioload. They grow about 8" long and are VERY fat bodied fish - so you're probably looking at 20 gallons minimum for one - with good filtration. As for aeration, you probably don't need it if your filter stirs up the surface of the water. An airstone or bubble wall certainly won't hurt anything though.

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