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phantom
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From:MACCLESFIELD,UK.
Registered: Jan 2004

posted 01-07-2004 11:45 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for phantom     Edit/Delete Message
I HAVE 5 GOLD FISH ONE OF THEM IS UPSIDEDOWN?
IT'S BEEN LIKE THAT FOR 2 WEEKS NOW. IT LOOKS HEALTHY AND CAN SWIM,BUT WHEN IT'S NOT MOVING IT JUST FLOATS UPSIDEDOWN!

WHAT'S WRONG & HOW CAN I GET IT THE RIGHT WAY UP?!

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ahoycatfish
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posted 01-07-2004 11:50 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahoycatfish     Edit/Delete Message
My goldfish does that too. She will swim upside down or on her side. I have no idea why she does this but she seems to be healthy. I would ask the pet store. I hope that this helps you!!!
Ashley

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puff
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From:british columbia
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posted 02-11-2004 08:45 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puff     Edit/Delete Message
i wouldnt worry about it, if shes healthy and eats then she probably just goes upside down for the fun of it.

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oscarboi
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From:Sydney, Australia
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posted 02-11-2004 10:08 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for oscarboi     Edit/Delete Message
My old goldfish did that. It stays like that and soon it will be back to normal.

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t_chelle16
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From:Missouri
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posted 02-11-2004 10:18 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
That is a sure sign of swim bladder probles which is very common with goldfish (especially the fancy kinds). Most of the time it is caused by an intestinal blockage. Gas from the swim bladder escapes through the digestive tract and if there is a blockage, there is no place for the gas to go so it builds up and makes the fish too buoyant. It is definitely not normal or healthy.

First, you should try fasting it for a few days. If that doesn't work, you can try feeding it a couple of shelled peas (microwave a couple frozen peas for a few seconds then remove the shells). You can also try adding 1tsp epsom salt (not aquarium salt)/5 gallons.

And to help prevent it in the future, cut back on feedings and pre soak the food in tank water before feeding it.

-Chelle

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angelgirl2003
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From:Waterville, Ny USA
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posted 02-12-2004 09:38 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for angelgirl2003     Edit/Delete Message
My Mother in Law's gold fish do that too. I did a lot of research into it and swim bladder is one avenue and the other is gas. Try giving a few peas to it...cut in half... and see if that helps. If not, I would def. agree with Chelle's response. Good luck

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TL1031
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posted 02-12-2004 01:42 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for TL1031     Edit/Delete Message
lol i lvoe the replies about for the fun of it but that isnt true. what chelle said is great advide and i would look into that. nice info chelle!

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t_chelle16
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From:Missouri
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posted 02-12-2004 02:32 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
"lol i lvoe the replies about for the fun of it but that isnt true."

I have to rant here . . .

I hate to sound rude, but that is one of the things that really bugs me about this forum. I've noticed a lot of people will reply even though they have absolutely no idea what they are talking about and the advice they give is TOTALLY wrong and/or could cause the problem to get worse or kill the fish.

Unless you are sure your advice is correct and helpful, it's best not to say anything at all. If you don't know something, that's perfectly fine; no one is an expert on everything. But please don't just make something up that sounds good and pass it off as legit.

::steps off soap box and deposits 2¢ in jar::

-Chelle

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kc5gvn

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posted 02-12-2004 09:37 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
Hi all, I have refrained up to this point, but since the subject of accurate posts has been brought up I wish to address something that I see posted repeatedly. I haven't said anything because I feel that people should used adequate size tanks for their aquatic pets. The posts I am referring to are in regards to Red Bellied Pacus and the inaccurate picture that has been associated with the Red Bellied Pacu. While the Red Bellied Pacu can get up to 3 foot and sometimes larger in the wild, it will not get that large raised in captivity no matter what size tank it is in. I can say this with absolute certainty after viewing these beauties twice a year for several years in a +20,000 gallon pool. The largest I have seen them reach in this pool is 2 feet. Secondly, if you will pay attention to the picture, it is obvious that this poor fellow was caught in the wild. Also if you pay close attention to the photo you will notice the bone structure is not that of a Red Bellied Pacu but is that of a Black Pacu which get a little bit larger in nature. Final note: whether or not the post is absolutely correct, the fact remains that you should house your pets appropriately. This is my rant. Everyone have a nice day.

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t_chelle16
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From:Missouri
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posted 02-13-2004 08:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
I did some looking around, and I will admit you are correct about that picture. However, that doesn't change the fact that pacus are still VERY large fish. They have circular bodies so when they're 24" long they are nearly that tall which means they still won't fit in most of the aquariums (20" tall) people here are trying to keep them in. IMO, they need a tank that is at least 3 body lengths long, 1 1/2 wide and 1 1/2 tall. That works out to a 6' x 3' x 3' which is just over 400 gallons. I don't recall seeing anyone here having an aquarium that large.

-Chelle

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dianenm
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From:austin,tx, usa
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posted 02-13-2004 09:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for dianenm     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Kc for mentioning that. I'd also like to add that it would be nice to try to remember that people are here because they are interested and care about fish and a little kindess is sometimes better than always being right.
Fish should be fun!

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t_chelle16
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From:Missouri
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posted 02-13-2004 09:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, but telling someone totally wrong info (like it's perfectly okay to keep an oscar in a 10 gallon tank, or a floating goldfish is just having fun) is detrimental to the fish. People who are asking questions are doing so because they (hopefully) care about their fish and giving totally incorrect answers isn't helping anyone and could actually lead to the death of the fish.

-Chelle

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katanas_edge
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From:Canada
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posted 02-13-2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
I'll wade in on this topic...

I agree with t_chelle to a point. Tone is important, if you look at the difference between ahoy's post and puff's. Ahoy offered an opinion and then said she's not sure and reffered her to an expert (as we know all fish store clerks are ) where as puff offered his point as an definitive answer. There's nothing wrong with offering an opinion - even a 'wrong' one, just don't give the impression you know it for fact if you don't.

The flipside is that raking someone over the coals is unlikely to change their behaviour. Tell them what's wrong, why and how to fix it. Attacking will likely cause them to ignore anything you say anyway.

Also, it's nice to see that people's spelling and grammar are improving.

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cichlids small Jaws
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From:Courtenay, B.C, Canada!
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posted 02-13-2004 11:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for cichlids small Jaws     Edit/Delete Message
what dose IMO mean?? ???
lol chelle seems to always be right so i would take her advise redily! AND you Can keep 10 Oscar fry in a 10 gallon for like 10 mins lol.... so HA HAHa.. im bord sorry

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-13-2004 12:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
IMO = in my opinion.

-Chelle

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