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red devil 2
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posted 01-06-2004 08:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
the ph in my 55 gallon is very basic every day and is very hard to get down ive checked my carbonet and genarel hardness which is fine and i dont know if nitrates or ammoniea affects it but thats fine i need help

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bigkhan
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posted 01-06-2004 09:29 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigkhan     Edit/Delete Message
go to your LFS and get proper PH 7.0 or they also have this product at different PH levels 6.5, 7.0, 8.0, 8.2 I think there are others also.

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red devil 2
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posted 01-06-2004 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
ive tryed it before it dosnt work and the directions are one tablespoon per gallon thats like one whole bottle so its just a waist of money but thanks anyway

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ahoycatfish
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posted 01-06-2004 10:46 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahoycatfish     Edit/Delete Message
I would go to your petstore and get some Ph down.

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red devil 2
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posted 01-06-2004 10:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
ive been using that for 20 years and i still am i guess i forgot to mension i was

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red devil 2
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posted 01-06-2004 10:59 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
still it bearly helps it takes like a whole canaster just to get it to nuetral

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kc5gvn

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posted 01-06-2004 02:20 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
Hi red devil 2, What is your PH running and what type of fish are in the tank. Many fish can tolerate higher than neutral PH as long as the ammonia and nitrites are kept down. In most cases it is better to have a slightly high or slightly low PH than to have a chemical tank that can't maintain a balance. Also it would help to know what type gravel you have and what type of rocks are in the tank. There are certain types of gravel (Dolomite for example) that are used to keep the PH up. Also any rocks that contain limestone will raise the PH.

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red devil 2
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posted 01-06-2004 02:29 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for red devil 2     Edit/Delete Message
my ammonia is down i think my nitrates are down i dont have a test kit also there a no limestone rocks in the tank but maybe the gravel i have something called natural gravel and i also have another type but its larger rocks then the natural gravel the fish i have are a green texas cichlid, channel cat, oscar, red devil, 5 spot cichlid, fire mouth, and a much larger silver doller i know hes not compatible but hes going to be moved soon

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posted 01-06-2004 04:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
The natural gravel is fine. If the other larger gravel is more or less the same color it is fine as well. Most of the strata that is used to keep PH up is light grey to white. If you're doing a lot of partial water changes check the PH of your tap water to see if it is unusually high. My tap water here runs above 8.4. The rocks I thought you might have in the tank they call holy rock. It has holes all through it and is real popular here, and is made of limestone. Other things you might check. Everyone thinks of decaying organic matter as lowering the PH. This is not always the case. Decaying organic matter does strange things to PH. If you have driftwood in the tank you might remove it and check the PH after a few routine water changes. If you've had a fish mysteriously disappear, you might make sure he's not buried up in the gravel or if you have a UG filter make sure he hasn't gone down the riser tube and gotten under the filter. As to the Silver Dollar, I don't see anything wrong with where he is. I've kept Silver Dollars with Pacus, Oscars, Dempseys, Firemouths, Jewels and even Pike Cichlids and never had any of those pick on them. Thinking back the only thing that I can think of that ever picked on Silver Dollars that I've had was a South American Arowana. Keep me posted about the PH. We'll try to figure it out.

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bigkhan
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posted 01-06-2004 07:54 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for bigkhan     Edit/Delete Message
well I use the Kent Marine Pro-Buffer in my SW tank and it works great once you get the proper PH if you take care of your tank correctly you will only need to add this to new water when you make water changes and the directions are 10 ml per 40 gal of water. A 16 oz (about 472 ml) is only $5.00.

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