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Bobfactor7
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posted 11-12-2003 01:19 AM           Edit/Delete Message
My roomate and I keep a variety of fish, and all are doing well, but I am wondering if I should remove some. We have a 10 gallon with 2 underwater frogs, 2 white tetras, a plecto cat, a snail, and a goldfish in there. I suppose i should remove the goldfish soon (he just keeps eating, and has almost outgrown the frogs)would it be alright to put something else in with the goldfish in a 5 1/2 gal? Also all of the fake plants (5) get uprooted, should I take some out?
She also has a tiger barb that had to be removed because it stared to eat the other fish, and is now in a 1 gal with a snail. Just 2 days after a water change the water green and has a film on top (she changes 100%). Any help would be the best!!!!
Thanks

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Ahkahna
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posted 11-12-2003 10:03 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ahkahna     Edit/Delete Message
you need to keep the goldie in the 10 gallon. A 5 is way too small for any goldfish.

Do you mean plecostomus? If so you're going to need a much larger aquarium, pleco's can get up to 18" and unfortunately they don't stop growing with the size of a tank.

It'd be best to move your semi-aggressive fish to the 5 gallon. But I suggest that you buy another 10 to put them in.

Never change the water 100%!!!!! Only 20%-25. That can cause some aweful stress on your fish and possibly cause it to die or get some nasty infections.

Keep the plastic plants in the tank anyway, just get some good sized rocks to hold them down with. Hiding places are a great stress reducer for fish, whether they are live plants, fake, wood, or planting clay pots. It gives your fish something to do.

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katanas_edge
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posted 11-12-2003 11:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
Ahkahna is right, you will definitely need a seperate tank for your goldfish. If it is a "fancy" goldfish, you can expect it to grow to 8". A common goldfish or comet can get considerably larger.

Also, goldfish are coldwater fish. They do well in an average room with no heater in the tank. Tetras and barbs like the water a little warmer.

I would guess that the plant culprit is your goldfish - they like to root around plants - although you don't actually say how big it is. The snail is another possibility. I have no experience with frogs.

Put the tetra in the 5, with a small filter and give your goldfish a ten for now. Place the fake plants deep in the gravel and weight them down. Also, large marbles and river rock are things the goldfish can push around and root under without creating havoc in the tank.

Also, tanks in direct sunlight are more prone to algae problems.

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Bobfactor7
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posted 11-13-2003 02:15 PM           Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Guys!

The goldfish is about 2 1/2 inches, it is from a fair- but I think it is a fancy tail. The problem is, we live in a dorm. We have 2 different gallon tanks (tetra &snail)(betta & snail) and the 10 gal. with the 4 fish, 2 frogs, and snail. We move alot - and it is a real pain. If all of the fish live till next summer what size tank would you suggest (if I can afford it)?
Thanks Again!

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simbiz
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posted 02-12-2004 06:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for simbiz     Edit/Delete Message
Yes, Just remember that is suggested that only 1 Inch of fish is added to the tank per gallon.
Watch for how big they grow because some fish like my dad's pleco-cat will be claustrphobic and jump up and out. We didn't find him by site but by smell.

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katanas_edge
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posted 02-13-2004 10:39 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for katanas_edge     Edit/Delete Message
What kind of goldfish is it? Fantails and other fancy GF will require at least 20 gallons fully grown, but would likely do better in 30. They can live for 15-20 years. I'm assuming you have a plecostomus. Do you know what kind it is? They can grow large as well depending on the species.

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t_chelle16
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posted 02-13-2004 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for t_chelle16     Edit/Delete Message
What kind of frogs are they? The 2 most common types of aquatic frogs sold are african dwarf frogs and african clawed frogs.

Dwarf frogs will only get to be 1 1/2" - 2" and will do okay with most non-aggressive fish. You should allow for at least 2 gallons/frog.

Clawed frogs, on the other hand can get to be 4" or 5" and will end up eating most small fish. For these you'll need about 5 gallons/frog.

Two of easiest ways to tell the difference are dwarf frogs have webbed front feet and their eyes are on the sides of their heads. Clawed frogs don't have webbed front feet (they look like claws, hence the name) and their eyes are on the top of their heads.

-Chelle

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