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idgaf15
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From:los osos california Usa
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posted 11-09-2003 06:22 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for idgaf15     Edit/Delete Message
My 1.5 inch albino oscar seems to be devoloping black fins. can anyone help?

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Lildab
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posted 11-10-2003 10:16 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
mix breed

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Ahkahna
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posted 11-10-2003 01:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ahkahna     Edit/Delete Message
No, it's not a mix breed, . You need to check the ammonia levels. Anytime a fish develops black on it's fins, that means it's getting ammonia burn.

Check the levels and do a 20% water change for the next several days until you have no ammonia. Keep track of these levels and eventually the black will go away.


-_- mix breed.*claps her hands on her head*

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 09:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
I have an Albino Oscar that is 10inches long. I do a 20% change every Sunday. I have no Ammonia, Nitrite, Nitrate or anything wrong ever in my tank and she has black tips on almost all her fins. I've asked a proffesional that came to my house and looked at the fish and told me it was mix breed. My wife bought it from Wal-mart 3 yrs ago. So don't be a jackass and tell people there are no mix breeds when I have one. This person didn't tell you anything else but that his/her Oscar is getting black on his fins. Could be a # of different reasons.

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 09:31 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
Here is a couple pics of a beautiful Albino Oscar with nice black marks on his fins.

http://kingsoftheaquarium.tripod.com/oscars.htm

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Ahkahna
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posted 11-11-2003 01:13 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ahkahna     Edit/Delete Message
The fact that it is developing black on it's fins is a sign of ammonia burn.


If your oscar is a mix the black should have already been there.

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also: I wasn't rude to you, and I feel you have no reason to call me a jackass. I hope you feel much bigger now. I have never in my life seen an albino Oscar with black fins, so instead of insulting me you could have just corrected me without being an *** yourself.

Thanks.

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imikec
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posted 11-11-2003 04:10 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imikec     Edit/Delete Message
As we all know lots of animals come in an array of colors that change over time periods, especially some fish.
Iv'e had goldfish, that have went from orange & brown to all white, or all orange. Iv'e had oscars before, but have stayed their color. I think we have to much confusion, from knowledgable people, "but I won't exspect to know what to believe, with insults involed".
Ammonia levels mostly increase with over feeding, unchanged water causing fish waste to build to high, dirty filtration system. Amonia won't take long to disable or kill your animals once set. The person with the oscar claims it has a great deal of added coloration It may well be normal, if the fish has be eating swimming, and doing its thing (normal behavior) maybe there's know need for concern.

The effects of high ammonia levels may be summarised as follows:

1. Increased gill rate and gasping
2. Increased mucous production
3. Reddening of the skin
4. Hyperactivity and nervous behaviour
5. Erratic swimming and twitching

Not once did the owner write BLACK FINS AND ACTING STRANGE.

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 05:30 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
What was this then? -_- mix breed.*claps her hands on her head* I was not trying to hurt anyone or anything I guess saying you were a jackass was wrong and I appoligize. But telling people its ammonia burn is wrong unless you have more info. Just like me saying it is a mixbreed is wrong also. Cause it could be any # of things. Sorry again. Good Luck with the Oscar!!!

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Ahkahna
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posted 11-11-2003 05:31 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ahkahna     Edit/Delete Message
http://www.petlibrary.com/goldfish/smudge.htm
http://kokosgoldfish.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=46
http://kokosgoldfish.com/forum/index.php?showtopic=2533
http://www.ponddoc.com/WhatsUpDoc/WaterQuality/NatureBalance.htm
http://www.koivet.com/html/glossary/faq_details.php?faqId=250

(4th par. down)http://www.aqualink.com/fresh/z1-guppy.html

I hope that points out my first opinion. I mean, I have several links. And more I could put up but would rather not waste space on this persons post.

that wasn't me being a jackass. That was me clapping my hands on my head. Me saying really asinine things to you, would me be acting like a royal donkeys rear. But I wasn't.

[This message has been edited by Ahkahna (edited 11-11-2003).]

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 05:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
All these links are about Goldfish. And they all say grey/black smudges on the fins and body. I guess we have insufficiant info to assess the problem

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Ahkahna
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posted 11-11-2003 07:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Ahkahna     Edit/Delete Message
okay, how about this:

Would you rather be SAFE and check the ammonia levels? Would you rather feel that you made sure to check just in case?

Or would you prefer to risk the death of this persons fish? Because, from what it looks, you are very willing to risk this fish's death and sound right, rather than take the chance to maybe assume that IT COULD by all possibilities be a problem with the water.

Please don't hound on me for caring about someones pet.

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imikec
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posted 11-11-2003 07:59 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imikec     Edit/Delete Message
I tell you, with all the information we have provided thus far, the owner of the oscar should now have enough to use his or her imagination on what to do next. Let's keep the bond between us steady. I think all of us do our best at proivding others needs at this website, and as humans sometimes don't come acroos as clearly as needed. Maybe even misunderstood. That's why we need each other!!!! "Unpond registering at this website the adminisrator clearly asked us not to be sarcastic or give faulty inforamation at any given time".

Thanks people, anytime I need help with my fish I'll report right here to this website.

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 08:00 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
lol a little snippy arn't we?

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imikec
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posted 11-11-2003 08:02 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imikec     Edit/Delete Message
No problem huh.

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Lildab
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posted 11-11-2003 10:36 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Lildab     Edit/Delete Message
sorry typing is coming across all wrong I am a animal lover and a nice person sorry if I came across harsh to anyone I'm from Chicago.
Land of sarcasm no harm meant.

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kc5gvn

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posted 11-11-2003 10:51 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kc5gvn     Edit/Delete Message
Hello idgaf15, While it is very common for Goldfish to completely change colors and does occasionally happen with Bettas it is not common among other fish except for the development of spawning colors. The coloration you describe does not sound like spawning colors, especially considering the age of your Oscar. It is possible for it to be ammonia burn, but a simple test of your water can determine that. As far as being a mix breed, somewhere down the line it was a mix breed. Albinism is a completely recessive trait, and had to be bred to pick up the recessive coloration. The same goes for the red coloration on Tiger Oscars. Most likely your Oscar had a very thin black line along the trailing edge of the fin that went unnoticed when you purchased him. That coloration would be a throwback to earlier generations. As he gets older and his fins grow you can expect the black area of the fins to increase as well if this is a true color pattern and not ammonia burn. If it is a true color your very lucky because the white coloration with black edging on the fins, he is going to be one gorgeous fish that probably wouldn't happen more than once out of a million spawnings. Just to be safe test the water for ammonia and make sure he's OK. I would really like to see a picture of him when he gets older.

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imikec
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posted 11-11-2003 10:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for imikec     Edit/Delete Message
Lildab,

You did nothing so wrong that we should make a big deal over, I would bet that your one of the finest people a person could ever wan't to here from. "Everybody has their mixup, everybody". For one thing your expressing your emotion is a positive reflextion of who you are.

Thank you for your honesty, and keep the advice flowing its well needed.

Take care

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