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Fish-Noobie Member  Posts: 15 |
posted 07-30-2003 09:44 PM
 
will my 2 irridescent shark go along with my betta fish without killing eachother? IP: Logged |
kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 07-31-2003 12:25 AM
It won't be long until the Betta becomes food for the sharks. Don't get too upset though because the Betta can be put in an open jar when you need to separate it. Bettas like goldfish have a bone in the top of their head that allows them to breathe air. IP: Logged |
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Fish-Noobie Member Posts: 15 |
posted 07-31-2003 12:33 AM
but.. i putted te betta in already, and it seems fine do i take it out or laeve it at it is? and the shark are not that bad thier mouth are so small lol... IP: Logged |
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ArrOwAnA Member Posts: 170 |
posted 07-31-2003 06:15 AM
when therir mouth looks just about big enough to eat the beta put it in a beta bowl IP: Logged |
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Fish-Noobie Member Posts: 15 |
posted 07-31-2003 01:38 PM
why would the eat my poor betta..? i think they are friends though they swim together, though do i still but them in the bow? IP: Logged |
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nobodyyouknow Member Posts: 22 |
posted 08-03-2003 04:33 AM
yeah, they look fine now, but irridescent sharks grow to over 4 FEET long. yours wont because it probably in a 5 gallon tank since you dont know anything abotu your fish. your shark will become sick and die prematurly. research you fish before you buy them. [This message has been edited by iluvmypup (edited 08-11-2003).]this is your 2nd warning nobodyyouknow please don't insult others [This message has been edited by iluvmypup (edited 08-11-2003).] IP: Logged |
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phishhead Member Posts: 12 |
posted 08-03-2003 01:53 PM
nobodyyouknow I think your comments in your reply were a little rough. This is just a kid that went into LFS and they sold him incompadible fish with the wrong food and no advice. If you ask me the only one who did something wrong here is the LFS employee. This is a site to where people can find help,advice and talk about their hobby not put down and throw insults to others. ------------------ [This message has been edited by iluvmypup (edited 08-12-2003).] IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Member Posts: 341 |
posted 08-11-2003 10:09 AM
phishhead could you please reword the language thank you IP: Logged |
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gr8fuljames Member Posts: 277 |
posted 08-11-2003 01:13 PM
iluvmypup, I'm sorry for the way I worded that one. I was just really upset because of the reply that I had read. As soon as phishhead and I can we will fix it. P.S. If it's not done today just delete the last sentance. ------------------ James (The Grateful One) [This message has been edited by gr8fuljames (edited 08-11-2003).] IP: Logged |
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iluvmypup Member Posts: 341 |
posted 08-11-2003 01:52 PM
np we just try to watch the language because of the younger ones that come here.i know you didn't actually write the word but it pretty much means the same thing.we just don't want to upset any parents of the younger ones. thanks IP: Logged |
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rhomba Member Posts: 17 |
posted 08-28-2003 09:50 PM
i have 4 sharks living with my 2 female and one male betta they get along great ( i have in my tanks the two females i male betta, 3 sharks sorry a pleco two frongs and a black ghost knife fish) IP: Logged |
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tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 10-13-2003 03:07 PM
Are u prepared 4 babies? if u have 2 females and 1 male beta, well, u could end up with a few. U probbly want 2 either take out the male or the females IP: Logged |
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grnlemonade Member Posts: 194 |
posted 10-13-2003 04:41 PM
DONT BE FOOLED BY THE NAME "SHARK" ALL OF THEM ARE CONSIDERED 2 BE SEMI-AGGRESIVE, BUT IN REALITY THEY ARE COMMUNITY TYPE FISH. THEY CAN BE REALLY FRIENDLY AND NOT SHY. these so called "sharks" are actually more closely related goldfish then the REAL sharks. these fish are just considered sharks b/c of their dorsal fins. IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 10-14-2003 12:12 AM
Irridescent sharks are NOT sharks or goldfish. They are in the catfish family Pangasius pangasius. [This message has been edited by kc5gvn (edited 10-14-2003).] IP: Logged |
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katanas_edge Member Posts: 266 |
posted 10-15-2003 09:04 AM
Back to fish noobie's question. You should consider taking your "sharks" back and exchanging them for new fish better suited to home aquarium life. They grow HUGE (1.3meters and over 15kg) and are active swimmers and schoolers. A recommended tank set-up that I came across was 6 fish in a 20 foot long by 8 foot wide tank. As for nobodyyouknow - I hope you haven't discouraged people from posting for fear of being flamed by an "expert" like yourself. Of course people should research thoroughly FIRST, but a lot of stores have personnel unable or unwilling to provide helpful advice. IP: Logged |
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krysia322 New Member  Posts: 7 |
posted 12-19-2003 05:58 PM
quote: So... was this question ever actually answered? I'm bumping it b/c I'm actually wondering the same thing. Actually, I'm wondering it in an even more general sense: What fish are compatible with bettas, or does it not matter as long as 2 male bettas don't share a tank? TY ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 12-20-2003 07:29 AM
Hello krysia322, If you read the second post in this thread you will find that the question has been answered. For clarification THEY DON'T GO TOGETHER. Only smaller tropicals should be kept with Bettas. You also want to avoid any that are known to be fin nippers. IP: Logged |
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krysia322 New Member Posts: 7 |
posted 12-20-2003 08:31 AM
Okay, gotchya. Betta + I. shark = bad. LOL So then what are good tank mates for the I. sharks? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 12-20-2003 09:10 PM
Bala Sharks, Tinfoil Barbs, Bala (Columbian) Catfish and Sorubim Lima Shovelnose Catfish are good tankmates for Irr. Sharks. AVOID other large catfish like Tiger Shovelnose and Red Tail Cats. They will eat Orr. Sharks. You have to remember most of these fish get quite large. IP: Logged |
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krysia322 New Member Posts: 7 |
posted 12-28-2003 11:05 PM
quote: Thank you!  Question: What about Silver Dollars?I'm curious because I now know that the Irri. Sharks weren't the smartest purchase (I bought mine because they are so gorgeous); Wal-Mart really should not include these fish in their aquariums. Since researching further on these fish (and others), I no longer acquire my fish from Wal-Mart but from a knowledgeable fish store. So now I'm trying to provide quality of life for these fish, I can't see how bringing them back to the store would help them, least of all a Wal-Mart-type store. Fortunately, my 2 Irri. sharks seem happy enough, and they're healthy. Thanks again. ------------------ IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 12-29-2003 09:39 PM
Silver Dollars are good but you might want to avoid Red Hook Metynnis. Sometimes Red Hooks are fin strippers. IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 12-31-2003 03:54 PM
You have 6 - 4' Irridescent sharks in a 30 gallon tank. Excuse me while I roll on the floor laughing! I think your mistaking Sardines for Irridescent Sharks. [This message has been edited by kc5gvn (edited 12-31-2003).] IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 12-31-2003 11:28 PM
Red Devil, NO-ONE said 4 inches. Your post said they wouldn't eat a Betta even when they were 4 feet. I assumed you were speaking from experience. Your next statement was you had 6 in a 30 gallon tank. I was trying to picture 6 - 4 foot ID Sharks in a 3 foot tank. Question. Have you ever had a 4 foot Irridescent Shark? IP: Logged |
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red devil Member Posts: 37 |
posted 01-01-2004 02:25 PM
no and i didnt say they were 4 feet i said i have 6 ideresant sharks IP: Logged |
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ghoti Member Posts: 18 |
posted 01-10-2004 10:56 AM
Typically you want one gallon of water for each inch of fish you have, and you want to plan ahead for the potential size of your fish. Since Irridescent sharks can reach 4 feet in length, it would be best to have at least 50 gallons just for one of them. 85% of them never reach longer than 8 inches though (in aquariums) before they die. They like to have a strong horizontal current, since their natual environment is rivers. They get easily stressed out and may play dead. They have poor eyesight and when they get scared, may bump into things and injure their heads. They aren't very aggressive so probably wont go after other fish. They are omnivores, so they might eat a fish that is very small to them. I have a 6 in long irridescent in a 36 gallon tank (for now, planning on going to 100 gallons in a few years) with a few painted tetra, a plecca, some blue gourami, and some bala sharks and they all seem happy for now. Note on the bala sharks: they tend to be jumpers, so a tank that is completly covered is a good idea! [This message has been edited by ghoti (edited 01-11-2004).] IP: Logged |
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ghoti Member Posts: 18 |
posted 01-10-2004 11:01 AM
By the way, I have made the same mistake of buying fish before finding out about it... I bought the irredescent because it looked cool. When it played dead the first time, thats when I was shocked to find out how big they can get. I really think stores that sell fish should have a sign or symbol for fish that get really big or need special attention (they usually have symbols for aggressiveness, egg layers, schooling fish, etc.) IP: Logged |
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Daisy New Member Posts: 1 |
posted 01-10-2004 12:04 PM
Hello! I am new to this forum and find it very interesting. I Have a 40g,a55g, a29g, a20g, a couple of 10's and 5's. In moving my tanks upstairs my iredesant isn't doing well.I took him from the 55g and put him in the 40g with a spotted catfish 5-6in., a 5in plecostomus with whom he lived before and 2 new 5in oscars. At first they were fine. The oscars were breeding I think.Then about 5 days later the catfish started picking on the shark then the oscars soon followed suite.The shark jumped out on the floor.We put him back in(with a cut on his mouth)and they started in on him.So we put him in the 9g with a blue 4in gourami, a red finned shark, and a few tetras all former tankmates.Now I read just how big he can get!!! He's just beautiful and I don't want to loose him.My husband wants to put piranas in the 55g and I"m not sure they would get along with my iredesant.Any suggestions? Please Help. Daisy IP: Logged |
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ghoti Member Posts: 18 |
posted 01-10-2004 12:18 PM
heh.. I know nothing about piranas, but i wouldn't put an irridescent in with anything aggressive. They get stressed out easily, he prolly doesn't like being moved around. Research the fish before you get them- not hard just do a google search and look at everything. Takes ten minutes to find out how to make each type of fish happy:P IP: Logged |
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kc5gvn Moderator Posts: 806 |
posted 01-10-2004 12:28 PM
Hi ghoti, Good post with good information. The point I was trying to make with red devil is that just because they are vegetarian doesn't mean that they wont eat other fish. When they get larger even vegetarian fish will eat other fish. Daisy, I'm a little confused as to what fish are in what tank. It sounds like all of them are in the 40g except the following in 9g - ID Shark, Red Tail Shark and Gourami. If you'll list the tank and what fish are in each I'll try to help arrange. IP: Logged |
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ghoti Member Posts: 18 |
posted 01-11-2004 09:07 AM
That's a good point.. I've only looked into the fish that I have had, especially when I have had trouble with them. I had a chinese algea eater who was fine when it was small, but when it got bigger it started going after my other fish. I also learned about the inch of fish per gallon rule after I had had tanks for several years. I am also confused about daisy's posts... IP: Logged |
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TL1031 Member Posts: 100 |
posted 01-14-2004 05:36 PM
thnaks for all the info, my ID sharks seem stressed soemtimes and lie on the floor of the tank.. what can be done to help this out a bit? IP: Logged |
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friendly to fish Member Posts: 61 |
posted 01-14-2004 06:18 PM
Add floating plants and walk slowly around them but that is normal for id sharks IP: Logged |
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angelicdeity New Member Posts: 6 |
posted 01-14-2004 09:11 PM
There are a few mistakes or misconceptions stated throughout this post which i would like to clear up. Firstly Goldfish don't have a bone in their head to make them breathe athmosphereic air. Never have and Never will. Goldfish use their gills, like most fish. Also Bettas don't have this 'bone' either, they have a special organ, called a labarinth apperatus (spelling). This organ allows bettas to breate atmosphereic air, it is an adaption to their natural habaitats where the water contains little oxygen due to high temperatures. Bettas can be kept in bowls, but the bowl must be large enough for the fish to swim around. You must also change the water often, like two to three times a week. AT LEAST. IP: Logged |
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