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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 03-15-2004 06:23 AM
Okay, how should I go about training an adult dog that doesn't seem to be particularly food motivated? She seems to be somewhat praise motivated. But I am having no luck luring her into position because she is not that interested in the food. Is an adult dog harder to train than a puppy?
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winnie Member Posts: 107 |
posted 03-15-2004 06:33 AM
Is there some kind of toy she really likes? If so you could use that as an award with praise...also what are you trying to train her to do? Heel or sit, stay kind of stuff? You could use the coller and leash to help guide her in postion, like in a sit pull up a little (not to hurt her, just gentle) and she might sit down, or use your hand to lightly push her bum down. I dont know though...I am not a trainer...my dog is highly food motivated so I used treats...maybe you could by a treat that really smells strong and she would be more interested in them. I got this bucket of dried liver training treats that my dog went nuts over, maybe that strong smell would help. goodluck IP: Logged |
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 03-15-2004 06:51 AM
She knows how to sit and that seems to be about all she knows. I was trying to lure her into a down, but no luck. I think I will try hotdogs and see if that does the trick. I need to see if I can get some basic obedience to stick. Sit, stay, come, down are the major ones. And not pulling on leash. I look at Nala - the dog I have struggled with for all these months and felt like I had made only a little progress - and I suddenly realize how well she is doing. We let her off-lead at the park and she comes back when we call her. She's not terribly people-oriented but she doesn't want to lose us, either. You can REALLY see the difference between a dog that was raised correctly from puppyhood and one that was not. And Nala was about 14 weeks when we got her, for those of you who think that anything past 6 weeks is too late! I was working with her yesterday when Bonnie was outside eating and she was doing really well. Although I swear she will never understand what "stand" means without the lure!! I just don't know what to do. I have asked to foster Bonnie for a while longer. If we want two dogs, she is a good match. Nala certainly likes to play with her. But Nala has not played with US since we have had Bonnie. (Bonnie played fetch this morning and actually brought the ball back and gave it to me every time - that was nice!) I don't want to be selfish and deny Nala a doggie companion. But I have worked very hard on this dog and I don't want to lose the bond I have with her. My original plan was to do the Weekend Getaway whenever we had a free weekend, so Nala would have a doggie to play with sometimes and I would have a steady stream of different dogs to experience. But it's so hard to give them back, and worse when you know they are going to a shelter and not a home. And then there's always the possibility of getting a puppy so I can raise one correctly from the start again. Or the agility instructor might have a sheltie puppy for me - already trained - not too far in the future. I guess we will give it a while longer and see how it goes. We have agility tonight so we will also see how Bonnie reacts with Nala and I both gone.
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winnie Member Posts: 107 |
posted 03-15-2004 07:03 AM
http://www.uwsp.edu/psych/dog/dog.htm This is a link to a site that has sooo much usful information on anything you can think of. It helped me a lot when I got my dog. It has many many links on obediance and tricks, for the food motivated dog and for the dog that is not food motivated. It has behavior links...EVERYTHING! check it out...also I bet Nala is excited about this new dog in the home and when they get use to eachother she will probley start to act like her normal self with you and your family. I think it just might be a new experience for her having a dog she gets along with in the home. IP: Logged |
tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 03-15-2004 07:15 AM
Hi Jamiya! You said that Nala doesn't seem to be paying attention to you since you have gotten Bonnie. Ranger and Snickers don't pay attention to us when they get together either, they are much more excited about seeing each other. The people whom we got Ranger from had two dogs, and they said when they first got the second one, the first one kind've ignored them, but after they had gotten used to each others presence, and didn't feel that they had to play as much as possilbe before the second one went away, things were back to the way they were, except with 2 dogs giving them tons of affection (although the second one slobbers too much for them to enjoy it...) IP: Logged |
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 03-15-2004 07:56 AM
Thanks, guys. We will stick it out and see what happens. They do both mob me for attention if I sit down, but they won't actually play with me. They just jostle each other trying to be closest to me, and then Nala starts to pester Bonnie. The only thing I have found that works is to totally ignore both of them, and then they eventually go lie down. I'm sure we'll work it out. I found them digging a lovely hole outside this morning. Bonnie wouldn't come inside. And then she asked to go out again just as I was leaving and Nala ran out with her with a bone in her mouth, and the last I saw they were playing chase with it. My husband stayed home to get them back in.
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tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 |
posted 03-15-2004 10:52 AM
The people we got Ranger from still played with both their dogs. The second one has been learning many tricks with a tennis ball, and so she will ignore anyone and everyone except the person with the tennis ball. She LOVES the tennis ball, and will stop anything if she sees someone grab it to play with her! The first dog was the mother, so she didn't go outside much because the puppies kept trying to nurse on her, and she would let them, but last time they had tried they had cut her, so... IP: Logged |
honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 03-15-2004 11:05 AM
Jimiya - I hipe it works for Bonnie - Wylie was the same way with training treats, she is not food motivated. You did mention she like hamburger, wy not use this as a trianing tool. I fianlly found Wylie likes beef jerkey so that is what I used. I tried hot dogs but she really didnt like them As for training an older dog, I think it depends on the type of dog. I think Wylie was around 16 months old when we got her and she was fairly easy to train even though she wanst food motivated. I think she is much smarter than Jake and has an eagerness to please. As for the down position, that is the hardest command to learn. I used to spends hours with Jake on this one but he just wouldnt, so I gave up. he sits great and that isaobut it. he was very heard ot train so he is lacking in a lot of it. Ithink he is just a stubborn dog. Like wylie - I had her healing on her 2nd day of walking, like she wanted to please me. good luck IP: Logged |
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 03-15-2004 11:13 AM
I'm not sure what this dog is doing when she gets on leash. She goes toward things I think she would be scared of and refuses to walk when there's nothing around (sometimes). When she does get going, she pulls like the dickens. She seems afraid of new people but also makes a beeline toward them. She's an odd one!
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 03-15-2004 11:16 AM
I just looked at her picture again, even though she is black and white, she is so adorable! She has the same charactaristics as Wylie and identical eyes! If you do keep her, be prepared for all of the comments about her eyes, mainly about her being blind in the blue eye and oh she looks possessed honeybear IP: Logged |
2pyrs Member Posts: 30 |
posted 03-15-2004 10:39 PM
Training: more ways then there are colors in the rainbow. For the life of me I never understood why anyone has to us food,sticks,and the funny one clickers. I always wondered who came up with half of these ideas. What ever happen to just putting a leash on your dog and a slight pull up and a firm push on the butt (sit) or sit and then taking the front legs pulling forward and down on the leash, wow down. Voice, hand touch commands, interaction.Click, click, click how many things go click in the dark. I remember my grandfathers story about when he was in Germany and the things they did to train dogs and you might be surprised at most of the stuff you are trying to day are not really new. He told me they lost a few guys and some dogs with the clicker training thing. It seems that when you would click it has a sound much like there rifles bolts. Can you imagine hiding behind a tree and clicking away, the Germans must have been laughing there butts off.It must have been like standing in the middle of a parking lot dressed in red strips and telling someone to try and find you.Just a year ago I was ask to retrain a dog from clicker responses, it seem that some of the kids had some kind of toy that would click when the were outside playing. That darn dog did not know if it should sit,stay,come or just put it's head up it's.... To make it worse when the kids found out what would happen they of course had to drive that poor pup crazy. On the short side, a lot of work and a lot of love it now sits and stays with out food or clicking, but I still have dreams of kids driving around the neighborhoods with there windows down and clickers hanging out the windows much like when I was a kid and we would drive around with my dads garage door opener and make peoples doors go up and down. Hay has anyone tried the flashlight training yet ? You can only do it at night or in a dark room, flash light three times and wait and three once more saying sit, did I just send S.O.S., what are all those red lights coming towards me. Oh boy got to run ,later guys. 2pyrs IP: Logged |
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