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Velillty New Member Posts: 7 From:Philadelphia, PA Registered: Mar 2004	posted 03-12-2004 08:47 AM Our 14 year old dog urinates in our house. She has stoped telling us when she even has to go. We have confinded her to the kitchen with a baby gate.Gotten her a new bed for the kitchen, baby gates and lots of toys and chews for the day. She uses the puppy pads sometimes, but she pees on her bed too. Sometimes we find poop. The vet said she the the healthest 14 year old dog he has ever seen? I am confused? Any advice would be great! Thanks! IP: Logged
tuttifrutti Member Posts: 478 From:Dallas, Texas Registered: Jul 2003	posted 03-12-2004 08:56 AM My 14 year old aussie did this too, although she was incredibally healthy, except for being deaf and going blind. Yeah, I know sounds unhealthy, but at that age...Anyhow, we never understood why she did that, she was healthy otherwise, no serious issues, as she had been deaf a few years, and had just started getting cataracts, so they weren't that bad (she ran into less things than some of the dogs I know with 'perfect' eyesight). She was a merle, so she was prone to the other problems. I did have a friend with a lab who could no longer control its bladder, but Kopon didn't have this problem she just peed. We never had poo, though. Sorry, I just realized I am rambling, not helping! IP: Logged
Velillty New Member Posts: 7 From:Philadelphia, PA Registered: Mar 2004	posted 03-12-2004 09:10 AM no it's ok. I have only had her for 2 years. My husband has had her for 12. I really feel it's spite? She is goig deaf, she does see better then she hears. But she isn't nice to me. Snaps at me. This whole going in the house thing is newer though. I would say we have delt with it for about a year now. But the poop! That's new. And something that doesn't make sense? IP: Logged
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Sep 2003	posted 03-12-2004 11:17 AM Can you find any pattern to when she has accidents? Something that was happening at the time? I wouldn't say it is spite, but it could be a reaction to something going on that she is upset about. She's not trying to get back at you - she is just upset. Jamiya IP: Logged
lanena322 Member Posts: 69 From:Cidra, Puerto Rico Registered: Feb 2004	posted 03-12-2004 11:41 AM I dont know much about this but I had a sinilair experience with my pit bull. when she was about 9 or 10, and old she got to the point where i guess she couldnt control her bladder. she would walk and her pee would come out IP: Logged
Maisey Member Posts: 1387 From:Portland, Oregon US Registered: Sep 2003	posted 03-12-2004 12:03 PM I don't think it's "spite", I don't think dogs minds work that way. I would get a second opinion from a vet on her physical health. Just because she is the "healthiest 14 year old dog your vet has seen" doesn't mean that she can't be losing control of her bladder and /or bowels. It happens in old dogs. What breed is she? My Beagle was 23 when her kidneys finally gave out, in her last year she would have accidents. She would still indicate that she had to go, but if nobody noticed or was right there to let her out...she just couldn't hold it. I know that as she lost her hearing and became more blind..her indicators for wanting to go outside became quieter and less noticable too. Where once she would bark to go out...she slowly stopped doing that and would just go to the door and look out. Is your dog sleeping in the spot where she pees on her bed? or once she does that does she sleep elsewhere? Is it huge amounts or small? IP: Logged
Velillty New Member Posts: 7 From:Philadelphia, PA Registered: Mar 2004	posted 03-12-2004 12:36 PM She sleeps where she pees and it's both a little and a lot. The spite thing i think is the poop since now we keep her in the kitchen if we aren't home. She has stopped telling us when she even has to pee. Sometimes she goes to the door and looks at us so right away we get up and let her out. When we are home we let her out about every 15-20 minutes. But when she gets in she still pees. And we watch her she pees out side a lot. It is so frustrating. We don't yell at her cause she knows it bad and can't help it. If we catch her doing it we say no, but if we see the accident we don't do anything but clean it up. The onlythings wrong with her are her hearing and a little sight. She skips around with the cats like a puppy. We know she just can't hold it, suggestions would help. Thanks IP: Logged
Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 From: Registered: Sep 2003	posted 03-12-2004 12:41 PM If she is peeing a small amount many times, it could be a bladder infection. Did your vet check a urine sample for that? If not, collect one and drop it off for them to test! If it is just incontinence with age, I don't have experience with that. Perhaps there are herbal remedies or drugs that can help? Jamiya IP: Logged
Velillty New Member Posts: 7 From:Philadelphia, PA Registered: Mar 2004	posted 03-12-2004 12:42 PM thanks, no blatter infection. IP: Logged
susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 From:Santa Maria, Ca. Registered: Nov 2003	posted 03-12-2004 12:45 PM I don't know if this will help you or not... Old dogs, particularly bitches, often leave a damp patch after they have been lying down - why, and what should you do ? Leakage of urine (or urinary incontinence) is quite a common problem for older dogs - especially bitches. The signs are : There is a damp patch on bedding, or on the floor, after the dog has been lying down for some time The hair around the external genital region becomes soiled with urine Sometimes the skin around the genital area becomes sore and inflamed due to urine scalding The dog may lick excessively at it's genital region The dog and/or it's bedding smell strongly of urine With incontinence the dog does not know that it is passing the urine, and urine leaks when it is relaxed or occasionally urine can leak during normal activity. If a dog does know what is happening, it will deliberately urinate in unfamiliar places - but urine will not necessarily leak where the dog lies down. What causes urine leakage ? One of the most common causes in bitches is urinary tract infection (or cystitis) Loss of control of the bladder - due to problems within the bladder neck Loss of control of the bladder - due to diseases of the spine Sometimes excessive urine production and leakage is associated with other disorders which increase urine production - such as kidney failure or diabetes mellitus. What should you do if your dog leaks urine ? Do not assume it is just "old age" Take your dog to your veterinarian to have a full health check In most cases your veterinarian will be able to put your dog on to treatment to reduce the problem. What if you don't have your dog treated ? The urine soiling can lead to scalding of the skin - with painful ulcerated skin lesions Even if your pet does not have urinary tract infection initially - it can develop as a secondary complication. Urine soiling can be anti-social and loss of control of urination is one of the most common reasons for owners requesting euthanasia in older animals Susan IP: Logged
Maisey Member Posts: 1387 From:Portland, Oregon US Registered: Sep 2003	posted 03-12-2004 01:32 PM Awesome Susan..thats where i was heading with my questions but I couldn't find a good link. Excellent! IP: Logged
MaryNH Member Posts: 240 From:Campton, NH USA Registered: Jan 2004	posted 03-12-2004 06:52 PM my Shepherd takes Causticum. It's a liquid that strengthens muscle tone...sphincter muscle in her case. I was getting to the point where I was constantly going behind Sadie with cleaner and paper towel to wipe up her leakage...it was getting bad. Her holistic vet gave me some of this stuff to try - Sadie hasn't leaked in about 6 months...she turned 10 this past Wednesday (getting on in year for a GSD). This stuff does take awhile to work...no drugs in it at all - holistic. I recommend it but you won't see results right away. IP: Logged

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