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roselin
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posted 03-05-2004 05:54 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roselin     Edit/Delete Message
A couple of questions for experienced dog owners ...

1. Is it okay to give my puppy raw vegetables? He loves baby carrots - thinks they are "treats."

2. How do I play with my puppy without encouraging aggressive behavior? Right now, we play tug-of-war with toys. He loves it, but I am worried that it might make him aggressive. I have a two-year-old daughter and he jumps all over her (playfully) and scratches her - making her cry. I know he needs to play, so any suggestions?

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Nik
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posted 03-05-2004 06:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nik     Edit/Delete Message
Hi, congrats on the new pup
I found the best way to stop any tug games getting too excitable was to teach him 'leave' from the start. This way the second they start growling (the point it should stop, prefrebly before if possible) then I say 'leave' and the game stops. Imediatly say to go get their ball or something else that they like to play with in a different way.
The only other thing I can think of is that you NEVER let them win any tuggy games. Sure occasionally they get the better of you but that's where the 'leave' command comes in again, the second it feels like I'm gonna have to let go I make him leave so he doesn't 'win'.

I know what you mean about the scratching. My pup jumped straight on my neice and scratched her face, now she's scared of him which sadnes me, but we're working on it.
You'll find his claws, and teeth will wear down and become less like needles as he starts walking outdoors. If you let him jump all over you when you're playing tho you'll find that as he grows it'll be less sharp but just as painful as he'll have weight behind him. I do let mine jump all over me, but I stop him from doing it to others, again by telling him to fetch his ball or something elseto play with them with.

oh, as for the veggies... they love em and they're all good for em, except onions I believe.

Hope some of this helps a little

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Jamiya
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posted 03-05-2004 06:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Veggies are fine if they are used as treats and do not make up a significant portion of the diet. Same with fruits. Onions are poisonous to dogs and cats, so avoid those. There is also controversy about grapes and raisins, so I would avoid those as well. And chocolate, of course. Not that you would feed chocolate to the dog, but your daughter might.

Nik had good advice about playing tug. teach the dog to stop when you want to stop - some people use the word "enough". He'll get the idea soon enough.

Other games you can play with your puppy: fetch, teach him tricks, hide-and-seek (you can hide, or hide treats). I love the book "The Power of Positive Dog Training" by Pat Miller. It has a whole 6-week program with things to teach your dog. Tiring out their minds works better than trying to tire out their little bodies.

What kind of a puppy is it? Do you have pictures?


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roselin
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posted 03-05-2004 07:09 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for roselin     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks Nik and Jamiya! I learned something from both of you.

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Nik
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posted 03-05-2004 07:35 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nik     Edit/Delete Message
Roselin - You're welcome.

Jamiya - I didn't know that about grapes. Floob loves them, he throws them around for 10 minutes barking at it before he chews it in a silly way. Guess I'll have to cut them out tho eh
Thanks tho, glad I found out now rather than later.

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honeybear
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posted 03-05-2004 08:23 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
Nik, here is some info on grapes and raisens and you also dont want to fed your dog tomatoes

honeybear

FYI

Grape and raisin poisonings in Dogs

Recently, there was a letter in the AVMA Journal from Dr. Gwaltney-Brant and others at the ASPCA Animal Poison Control Center discussing grape and raisin poisoning in dogs. Apparently, grapes and raisins can be toxic to dogs when ingested in large quantities.

The grapes and raisins came from varied sources, including being eaten off the vine directly. The dogs exhibited gastrointestinal signs including vomiting and diarrhea and then signs of kidney failure with an onset of severe kidney signs starting about 24 hours after ingestion of the grapes or raisins. The amount of grapes eaten varied between 9oz. and 2 lbs., which worked out to be between 0.41 and 1.1 oz/kg of body weight. Two dogs died directly from the toxicity, three were euthanized due to poor response to treatment and five dogs lived. Due to the severity of the signs and the potential for death, the veterinarians as the poison control center advocate aggressive treatment for any dogs suggested of ingesting excessive amounts of grapes or raisins, including inducing vomiting, stomach lavage (stomach pumping) and administration of activated charcoal, followed by intravenous fluid therapy for at least 48 hours or as indicated based on the results of blood tests for kidney damage.

I have fed my dogs a few grapes every now and then for years, so I don't think there is a need to panic if a dog eats three or four grapes but if the whole bunch is missing from the table one day, it would be good to think about watching for any signs of a toxic reaction.

Michael Richards, DVM
6/5/2001

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bullylove1
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posted 03-05-2004 09:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for bullylove1     Edit/Delete Message
rosely,
carrots are great for your puppy. The better way to feed them is be "pureeing" them, or crushing them before feeding them to your dog. Sometimes veggies can be hard on puppies and dogs tummies. When you crush teh veggies for them, they are getting the nutritional value, and the first step of breaking down the food is already done for them so there is less chance of bowl problems, which can happen to a dog that is not used to human food. I am weaning my girl off dog food to change her diet to a human food diet, and thats what find is easiest on their tummies.
ou already got lots of good suggestions for tug so I'll leave it at that, except for the jumping thing. You should never allow your dog to jump on people. Too many times dogs are brought into the shelter for that very reason. (Not saying that you would) but it may seem cute when they're little, but grows tiring very quickly the larger they get.
Good luck!

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Lets not blame the dogs for a trait bred into them by the evilness of man. Lets understand them instead, so we can provide responsible ownership and give them a chance to show the world why they are so deserving of our love.

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Maisey
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posted 03-05-2004 10:10 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Nik, frozen whole cranberries provide just as much entertainment for the dog, I always worry one of them is going to choke, but they look at me like I'm an ogre if I half them.
Roselin, congrats on the new puppy. We play tug of war with our dogs but did not allow our children to play the game with them. My oldest is 15 years old and once she proved to me that she could play the game and end it on her terms, being in control, I allowed her to play. We have two dogs that love this game and they have really different personalities. Dooley gets very excited about the game but keeps it in check and as soon as a person says "That'll do", he stops. My 11 year old can play the game with this dog. My second dog Witt is only 15 months old and very much a bully, he plays HARD, likes to be in charge. He also uses his paws for everything so being scrathched is a possibility. My 11 year old is not allowed to play this game with him because he will not listen to her when she says "That'll do". He plays it well with everyone else in the house and listens. Always make sure YOU end the game and have "won". I would not ever play the game with him around your child, save it for when she is elsewhere or napping. Instead pick a game that offers as much fun but is a bit more controlled. Hide and seek is a great one and your child can participate. Most importantly you should know it IS possible to teach you pup that whats ok with one person is not ok with another. Dogs are smart. Be clear in your commands and consistent. It won't take long for him to figure out that if the baby is around tug of war is not an option.
Carrots make an excellent treat for dogs, I have been told that you should grate them up so that the dog can digest it and utilize it's nutrients, but I have never found a chunk of carrot in my dogs poo so I think they digest it pretty well.

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ahoycatfish
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posted 03-05-2004 10:24 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for ahoycatfish     Edit/Delete Message
I play tug-of-war a lot with my doggie. She isn't aggressive, but she will growl (and wag her tail) when we are playing tug-of-war.

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Nik
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posted 03-06-2004 02:01 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Nik     Edit/Delete Message
Thanks for the info on grapes Honeybear, maybe I'll just give him one now n then. He only has one or two at a time anyway, and usually only every couple of weeks so it's not alot to cut out or anything.

Maisy, thanks, I'll try that with the frozen cranberries

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