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angelgirl2003 Member  Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:44 AM
 
Ok, here is the scoop in a nutshell. I gave a English Bull Mastiff that was aquired from a rescue. I have had him for just under 1 year. Buca is 3.5 years old. GREAT DOG!!! All of a sudden, he is showing signs of seperation anxiety (never before now) When I leave the house, I put him, my lab and collie mix in their room, complete with beds and futon for them to lay on. Also there are bones and toys and I also keep the tv on for them. This is not a new thing, they tend to get on my couch when I am not home, even though they are not allowed, but when the cats away....... Anyways, Buca shredded the dog bed yesterday. ? Today, I ran to the market, gone for 35 min. He shredded the futon mattress. WHAT IS GOING ON AND HOW DO I STOP IT? Nothing has changed, my life is very, well, consistant. Any suggestions would be helpful. Thank you all in advance IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:50 AM
Really really yell at the mess not the dog while you are cleaning it up. and get a crate for him immediatly. you will have to crate train him right away.ggod luck  Marcai Jasinski ------------------ IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:53 AM
Marcia, the rescue had tried to crate train him, as a precausionary measure....this is a big boy...bigger than your typical mastiff, if that is possible. He destroyed 3 crates. He was given to the rescue because he spent 20 hours per day in crate and was abused while he was out. He has never ever done this before. I wish I could figure out why all of a sudden he is doing this. IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:55 AM
Have you had him to the vet to see if there is any sort of physical problem?
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:58 AM
he has been to the vet. He is healthy. That was my first inclination, to no avail. IP: Logged |
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puggleowner Member Posts: 228 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:58 AM
Have you always had the other two dogs? If you had gotten one recently maybe he is just reacting to having to compete for attention- but if you've always had those two other ones, that probably isn't the case. Maybe he's just having a bad week and is feeling needy. It sounds silly, but Cameron (my 10 month old) goes through periods where she HATES being put into her crate at night, and will wine for a few minutes before going to sleep. Other weeks though, she will walk in voluntarily and not mind at all. Dogs have moods too IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 07:59 AM
Puggle: Buca is the newest addition, so its not new dogs.  IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:01 AM
If you cant crate him how about a really good muzel? or put him in a room where he can do less damage.got a freind who can dog sit him for you? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:04 AM
I believe he is doing this with his feet. There is no slobber on anything, and trust me, this boy can slobber. Sooooo, its his paws he is digging with. IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:06 AM
My Angus can bust just about any crate out too but he has never been abused in any way shape or form he just has to be stuck to me LOL. Lately I have had Kleo my 8 month old Russian crate in the living room open and he has bveen getting in by himself. so i would just get a big plastic one for him trow in some toys for him a Kong raw carrots and start gettimng him use to the idea a few minuts at a time. dont shut him in just leave it open you get in with him pretty soon he will want to get in. is it possible the other dogs are bulling him? big does not nessisarily mean he is dominate. maybe they are razzing him? ------------------ IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:11 AM
Jake is 11 years old, Lab, he doesn't razz himself LOL Cassie is crated, has been since we got her. Thanks for all your help, but I just can't crate him. He knows I am alpha, as do all the dogs here do. My husband says to take the futon out completely. Then what, will he chew up the table, the rug, or whatever. I am really at a loss with this, but I have a hard enough time finding a sitter for my children let alone my dog. IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:12 AM
The problem is you can not correct him for it unless you catch him inthe act ya know. i know 2 things that would help one would definatly work if you are willing to do it. ok 3 things. ! try faking him out by acting like you are leaving but just stand outside the door and listen and walk in and catch him really scold him and tell him no. or two use a prong colller not easy on a dog that size or 3 he most effective uise a e coller and slowly increase the zap while hidding out of sight so he thinks the object is zapping him when he digs that will work but you can not let him know it is comming from you or he will only not dig when you are home you have to watch him doing it increase the zap till he stops 2 or 3 times he will not dio it again ever ------------------ IP: Logged |
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:14 AM
angel girl, that is so strange, something is definitely triggering it. Think real hard something has had to change, it just doesnt seem right if it just started. Did the vet take any tests? Please deo a search here under "seperation Anxiety" there is a ton of good stuff that may help you. good luck honeybear IP: Logged |
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:14 AM
angel girl, that is so strange, something is definitely triggering it. Think real hard something has had to change, it just doesnt seem right if it just started. Did the vet take any tests? Please deo a search here under "seperation Anxiety" there is a ton of good stuff that may help you. good luck honeybear IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:15 AM
sorry about the speeling errors hard to type with 2 pups in the lap and 4 dobies on the feet LOL ------------------ IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:15 AM
I don't know about the zap collar, but I will try to get him to think I am gone....dog that size, I should be able to hear it if I am in the next room. Thanks, I will let you know. Also, I am going to bring him for walks when applicable before I leave....just him and me time. Oh well, its good for both of us. I will keep you all posted. IP: Logged |
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Marcia McLean-Jasinski Member Posts: 63 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:23 AM
If he does not like water using a squirt bottle on him when you catch him works good but the only thing is again he will only not do it when you are home. give him a cow bone and a Kong filled with goddies to keep him distracted too maybe he is just bored and frustrated. mine act up a lot less when they have a good run could be he is not gettin g enghouf exercise good luck ------------------ IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:31 AM
Sorry but using a zap collar is noway to train a dog i am sorry if you have been training/breeding dogs for years but i would not dare use something like that on my dogs and i have been breeding years. Angelgirl Have you tried giving him something that belongs to you like an old shirt or top that has your scent on. I have added a couple of links for you to read up on but please do not use the zap collar this is nasty and just not needed there is other ways to get over this problem hope these links help. mike IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:33 AM
Do you think it could have been cause his nails were long....I just cut them back as far as possible, and it was quite a bit. Maybe it was not separation anxiety at all. Is this possible...that he was trying to wear them down? IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:35 AM
A trip to the vets about his nails will rule this out but from what i have read he showing signs of anxiety when your not home. Mike IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:39 AM
The vet never checked his nails, did some blood work, checked him out, charged me an arm and leg to tell me its not medical. He knows he as done bad when I return home, he hangs his head and tries to sneak past me...he is just too big to sneak LOL. I guess I will just wait and see IP: Logged |
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charmedagain Member Posts: 790 |
posted 02-25-2004 08:42 AM
Well the above links will give you things to try and this will help you decide if he is doing it through anxiety or because of his nails dogs can be so funny at times. My pregnant female has been chewing things but thats due to the pregnancy. mike IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-25-2004 09:20 AM
I am at a loss here. Could there be something on or under the futon that he was trying to get to? Or maybe he was trying to "bury" one of his bones or toys? Dogs are such strange critters. I like the idea of making him think you have left the house so you can catch him in the act. I also think you MAY have success with crate training if you go VERY VERY slowly. It would take a long time, though, and I don't know if you have the time to do it. As other people mentioned, you leave the crate available with the door open, then toss food and treats in and let him go in and come out as he please. Then start feeding him in there with the door open, then close the door for just a second while he is eating, gradually increase the time the door is closed, etc. It would be a huge, long process in a dog that has been abused and locked in a crate for way too long, poor guy.
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Samsintentions Member Posts: 944 |
posted 02-25-2004 09:53 AM
Just a suggestion, Perhaps its not him? Could it be the other two playing with him due to boredom maybe? Smokey used to not do this as well, then come to find out Charllotte decided to play with him, resulting in tearing things up. Once they got the "thrill" of it, everything else was boring to them. I found that getting a new toy for them fixed the problem. I got it at petco. Its a ball with little "outlets" in it. You fill it with treats, and they will roll it around to get the treats. I also got a Kong and filled it with peanutbutter and almond butter. Either one works and they love it! IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:29 AM
This does seem very baffling, I don't have anything to offer in the way of advice really, but perhaps having a behaviorist come in would help. Sometimes an outsider looking in can access things we don't see. I would not put him in a kennel given his history, seems like that would be asking for a tragedy. Maybe an outdoor kennel run with a top and concrete floor so he doesn't feel trapped quite so much, would work. As far as the shock collar, I do believe there are instances where that as a training tool has a use. But I don't think this is one of those situations. It almost sounds like he is acting out of fear and the collar make make things worse. A behaviorist (a researched one) would be able to help you figure out the cause of his issues. IP: Logged |
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Maisey Member Posts: 1387 |
posted 02-25-2004 11:39 AM
I was just thinking....how about if you place a video camera in the room, if you don't have one borrow one. This way you can actually watch what he is doing, see his "state" so to speak. I think this would go a long way in understanding whats going on. Witt chewed the corner of a brand new recliner once...he never chewed destructively, so I was a bit shocked. Come to find out there was a toy under the chair that he was frustrated about not being able to get. He also uses his feet more than his mouth. He tries to catch balls with his feet rather than his mouth even...but he doesn't use them destructively and he doesn't have anxiety so I just don't know what advice to offer. A video would surely offer you some insight. IP: Logged |
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PinkPoodleSparkles Member Posts: 67 |
posted 02-25-2004 12:27 PM
I agree with Maisey... Seeing is believing.. With a video camera you can see if he notices that you have left, and when after you have left he begins to shred stuff. You can see if he whines or cries for you first or if he just does it cause youre gone. Its really worth a shot. Then youd have more to go on, and it might provide a clue or 2 to help clear things up. good luck!! stephanie IP: Logged |
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angelgirl2003 Member Posts: 59 |
posted 02-25-2004 12:35 PM
OK....got it....caught on tape....ya all know how a cat make itself comfy, by kneeding. That is what Buca is doing...He stopped when I told him to, as he also did the same thing in front of me, and laid down. Now, how do I get it to stop, I can't physically be with him 24/7. IP: Logged |
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Jamiya Member Posts: 1392 |
posted 02-25-2004 12:53 PM
Remove everything soft and fluffy from the dog room? We have to do that with Nala. She's fine at night, but during the day we can't leave her bed in her crate or she will eat it. Too many times I have come home to find a $30 bed shredded, no matter what kind of bed it is. And there she sits in the middle of the mess, looking pleased as punch.
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honeybear Member Posts: 926 |
posted 02-25-2004 02:18 PM
Well I am glad you found out what the problem is. I just noticeed Monday, my leather couch has scratch marks on it arrgh, Jakes lays on it all the time an never a problem, well I got this nice kind of fur blanket for the dogs and put it on the couch and Wylie started to lay on it, wel she like to scrunch it up and do that thing to amke it all comfy except she is also leaving scratch marks so I now I hav eot move it. They do make beds supposedly that are indestructable, Check out Drs forster and smith. It just their natural sintinct to want to get the bed perfect. How about just a blanket honeybear IP: Logged |
nern Moderator Posts: 1591 |
posted 02-25-2004 05:01 PM
quote: Too funny. Natalie once ripped the heck out of my sheets and the foam matress I had under them trying to get comfy when I left her in my bedroom unsupervised. I'd seen her do this before but not to the point of actually ripping anything. IP: Logged |
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