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Regor New Member Posts: 1 |
posted 02-21-2004 01:17 AM
Yesterday my wife took our dog Lilly, to the vet. It was a simple check up. I wasn't able to go, but my wife called me on the way home saying that the vet refused to see the dog until we established some obedience and dominance training. Apparently the dog emptied her anal glands while in the vets exam room. I know we have some minor dominance issues, things we are aware of but aren't having much luck with. Here is my questions. We have two dogs, one is 10mos old, the other is a 6mos old we rescued. What is a good way to work on dominance when both dogs need some simple dominance training. I have read on some websites that list some characteristics of a a dog with behavior problems. How do you fix these things. 1. Dog getting on the furniture when ordered not too. We'll keep it to that short list for now. Once I get those issues worked out I'll go from there. Some things we are doing. So far we've been succesful with those things, the dogs sit very good in the house, but outside gets tougher. IP: Logged |
kyles101 Member Posts: 227 |
posted 02-21-2004 02:32 AM
i think your vet has a dominance problem. my dog has peed all over the carpeted floor of a vets exam room once and they were fine with that. its all part of owning a vet practice! besides they see alot worse. the problems you list are pretty normal for the age of the dogs you have. if you suspect your dogs are even going breath on the furniture say a quiet, long but firm no. if they end up jumping on then a loud no will do. sometimes it can take a looong time for a dog to come when called. depends on the dog really. just keep trying to train them [dont lose your patience and yell at them etc] and theyll eventually learn, whether it takes 2 months or 2 years. and for the last problem i really wouldnt worry about that. my dog always stands at the door to go out then you open it, she puts one paw out and walks back inside. just ignore the pawing and only let them out when you think they need to. or maybe a doggy door would be good? the things you listed that you are currently doing are good. keep it up! IP: Logged |
puggleowner Member Posts: 228 |
posted 02-21-2004 10:40 AM
I can't believe your vet said that-- I would find a new vet asap. Sure, it is not a pleasant smell when a dog empties it's glands (Cameron has done it in our car- not fun...) but that is all part of being a vet. As kyles said, the things your dogs are doing sound perfectly normal for the age. When we have friends' dogs over, or someone Cameron doesn't know, she has let her "smell" out as well. It doesn't smell good, but there's not much you can do about it- dogs are pack creatures and must establish their order both with their owners and with other dogs. You are doing great-- trust me your dogs will fall into line. And get a new vet! IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 02-21-2004 11:26 AM
I would say its more training that is needed - not dominance. Poor Lily. My guess is she was scared, and your vet doesn't sound like he did much to help. Puppies under a year are going to be more rambunctious, a good vet expects that. But they should also have some manners and be able to stand or sit for a check up for a few minutes. Having two puppies close in age can make training a challenge. Their listening skills are not the greatest and they usually follow what the other is doing - making them behave unruly. You are on the right track with the things you do (sit for treats etc.) Work on training each separately. It is very difficult to train both together. IT is far more likely each will listen to you when alone. The next step is to be consistent with each dog and make sure enough time is spent weekly on training. To start I recommend reading a book like Jean Donaldson's Culture Clash and looking up some articles from Susanne Clothier : http://www.flyingdogpress.com/artlibreg.htm good luck IP: Logged |
karma Member Posts: 77 |
posted 02-21-2004 03:25 PM
Hi, You're sure the issue arose from the anal glands and not something else? That does sound like an odd reaction. Anal glands can 'pop' if they're very full and you just touch the hind area. I lifted up a dog's tail once and had them pop right in my face (you don't know 'gross' til you've experienced this!) My dog pops his when he's startled (we try to keep them emptied, though.) I'm certainly not an expert on them, but I didn't even know this was associated with dominance issues. The anal glands are two sacs inside the anus that can become full if they don't get released as a normal function of bowel movements. Some dogs will drag their butts across the floor if the glands become swollen and the pressure builds. But a dominance issue? Hmm, maybe someone will enlighten us.... IP: Logged |
nern Moderator Posts: 1591 |
posted 02-21-2004 03:30 PM
I would find a new vet. IP: Logged |
Karriesue Member Posts: 277 |
posted 02-21-2004 07:32 PM
I agree with everyone above. You definately need a new vet and one that is sensitive to animals. What your dog did doesn't sound like a dominance thing. I think the training you have been doing with your pups is great and it sounds like you are right on track. Sometimes even professional people need more training and it sounds like the vet you went to needs more. For your dog's sake, find another vet. IP: Logged |
Jas Moderator Posts: 536 |
posted 02-22-2004 09:44 AM
1. Dog getting on the furniture when ordered not too. Dogs do what has worked in the past. Have at any time your dogs been allowed on the furniture? If so breaking them from this takes some work. Otherwise when you are not there to supervise you must block off the furniture so they can not get on. Some dogs if allowed to do something even once think that its ok all the time. You can use a squirt bottle filled with water and if you catch them in the act of getting on the furniture squirt and follow with a "No" or teach them "Off" and say it like you mean it.
Could be a few things. i) Dog doesn't fully understand the command.
You may need to go back a few stages If the dog asks to go out i.e. pawing or barking clip his leash on and walk him out and tell him "go pee" walk him around until he goes. Even though I am sure he is housetrained he will see that "asking" to go out means its business time - no exceptions. With young dogs they do this when they want to play, one may be enticing the other to go out for a romp. Reinforce that every time he paws the door, it means out. No exceptions. Keep up the good work. With some time & plently of practice you'll get there. IP: Logged |
susan_cude@hotmail.com Member Posts: 813 |
posted 02-22-2004 10:02 AM
Good advise Jas! I agree with everyone! get another Vet! Good luck with the training....Susan IP: Logged |
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