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nutan
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posted 02-19-2004 07:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutan     Edit/Delete Message
hi, i have a 2 month old doberman and he is a delightfull bundle of joy..the thing is we basically have him coz' we need a guard dog..there was a recent burglary attempt in our home...a lot of people come and go in our house everyday and our dobe happily plays with everyone..will this decrease its guarding ability when it grows up and from what age will it start proper guarding

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puggleowner
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posted 02-19-2004 08:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for puggleowner     Edit/Delete Message
ummmm....you want him to be mean to the people who come to your house? I know in our dog's case that she will react depending on how we do-- if it is someone we welcome into the house, she knows they are "safe." However, if she sees someone outside that we haven't welcomed, she will bark like crazy-- but that is the extent of her guarding abilities- as soon as they come close she usually runs the other way, and acts shy until she is sure they are safe. You really have to be careful what you wish for-- if you end up with a dog that guards you against everyone, even friends and family, you could end up with a bitten child and a hefty lawsuit....

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kyles101
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posted 02-19-2004 08:12 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for kyles101     Edit/Delete Message
please dont turn your dog into a 'guard' dog. some of the time a dog will be protective of close family, friends and property anyway. it shouldnt go beyond that. just having a dog around is enough to turn off burglars, without them having to be a guard dog. as puggle owner said, you could end up with a lawsuit.

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nutan
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posted 02-19-2004 08:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutan     Edit/Delete Message
but what i am curious 'bout is will all this playing with too amny people mellow up the dog and make it too amiable...finally ending with it not barking even when a burgler attempts to break in

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raindigger
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posted 02-19-2004 08:39 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for raindigger     Edit/Delete Message
A two month old puppy who enjoys everyone's company is a good thing. So is an adult dog. If you want your dog to eventually get protective, a good way is to teach him when to bark. He is too young now, but in a few months he'll be ready. When people knock on the door he'll watch how you react. You can get excited and say "who's that!" Take him to the door holding his collar. Always greet the person and let the dog greet as well. He will soon learn to alert you to people at the door, but he won't be aggressive, which in almost every case you won't want him to be. Another thing to do is have people knock on windows and pretend to try doorknobs from outside the house without the dog able to see who is there. Again, act excited. When he barks or even shows interest praise him. Most bad guys will not enter a house when they hear a big dog barking inside. It's just easier to enter one that doesn't. So you can teach him to be an "alert" dog rather than a "guard" dog. Eventually he'll understand what his job is by reading you and know what to do when he is home alone.

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tuttifrutti
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posted 02-20-2004 06:25 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for tuttifrutti     Edit/Delete Message
My brittany gets along well with everyone, as long as he has either met them, they are in our house, or I tell him its ok. He barks at anyone who passes. When walking him, he will bark at people he hasn't met. A few months ago, my young neighbor was with me and Ranger (ranger just loves him, he always has a ball ), when his older brother came up to tell him it was time to go. Well, Ranger hadn't met this brother, and so he started barking, and then growling as he came closer. I think with most dogs it simply becomes a natural instinct to protect those you love.

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MaryNH
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posted 02-20-2004 06:44 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MaryNH     Edit/Delete Message
as long as we are home our GSD greets everyone like they are her pals - but when we aren't home she's different...as I want her to be.

The guy that delivers our oil tells me we have a "bad" dog LOL and the UPS guy tells me the same thing. But that's when we aren't home. If they came to our house while we were home she probably wouldn't even bark. I'm not sure how she'd react if these people came into the house while we were gone...but most people aren't going to chance going into an empty house with a large dog.

Keep in mind if you do turn your dobie into a guard dog you have a great potential of losing your homeowner's insurance or having rates so high you won't be able to afford them. Hard enough having a "banned" breed without wanting it to be aggressive toward strangers.

Your dobie sounds wonderful...his protective instincts will take over soon enough.

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nutan
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posted 02-20-2004 07:21 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutan     Edit/Delete Message
thx a lot ..i think i get the picture.hopefully its guarding instincts will take over soon...by the way what should i be feeding my 10 week old doberman..i give it puppy food twice a day and then carb and protein rich natural food twice a day(i.e 4 times a day)..when i try to feed it anything new ...eggs for example it promptly upsets its digestive system(loose motions) and i am forced to go back to the old foods..is this normal or is my dobe extrasensitive...how can i introduce eggs and some meat into its diet without upsetting its digestive system

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MistressKela
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posted 02-20-2004 09:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for MistressKela     Edit/Delete Message
Don't train a dog to be a guard dog. Thats an accident waiting to happen. Buy yourself a mini pinscher to get an alarm dog....hopefully the combination of an intimidating looking dog plus a noisy yapper that will wake up the neighborhood will distract any potential robbers etc.

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dogangel
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posted 02-20-2004 12:35 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for dogangel     Edit/Delete Message
Nutan,

Under NO circumstance train your Doby to be vicious. This breed is by nature VERY protective. You don't need to teach him to be such. Do not have any doubts that if need be, he will protect you and you household. First, the reason he is so nice to the people you invite into your house is because he can feel the right feelings between you and your guests. Remeber, dogs can smell a lot more than humans can. As long as you, as the pack leader are O.K. with somebody, then so is he. That all changes if you are not home, or if they think they sense something wrong is going on. I can only be sorry for whoever would try to break into your house (besides, ALL of the intruders are going to stink like adrenaline overdump to the dog, so there's no way he could get confused).
So just enjoy your baby being sweet to your friends, and don't worry about him being mean to the foes.
And by the way, welcome to the board!!!!

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candyapplekc
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posted 02-21-2004 04:51 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for candyapplekc     Edit/Delete Message
PLEASE READ! I have owned dobes all of my life. Dobes, by instict, are very quick thinking, protective, and suspicious. They can be assertive and beligerant. But they are also very loving family dogs. I have always socialized the heck out of my dobes, so they do enjoy attention and pets from strangers. BUT...you will find that just the mere sight of a dobe will be enough to deter any fool from breaking into your house or causing your family harm. Your dobe is just a baby still. His protective nature won't show up until he matures, around 1 to 1 1/2 years old. And even if your dobe loves strangers, I'm sure once that once he matures, his protective nature will not let anything happen to you or your house. But please don't try to make him mean. Trust me on this one.

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Maisey
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posted 02-22-2004 09:33 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Everyone gave such good advice...nutan I have three dogs...well two dogs and a Poodle couch/snuggle pillow. Dooley(AussieX) loves people and will wiggle his butt off begging for attention to most people. However he is very protective of our home and family. That came naturally as he matured. I also have a 15 month old Catahoula X, Witt, he is VERY property protective, he started acting this way at about 8 months of age with no encouragment from me, it is natural. Treat a dog well and as a part of your family and they will naturally gaurd whats theirs. Witt is a handful, I cannot trust him with strangers and spend alot of time working on how he behaves when someone comes into my house or yard..or near my truck, or me or my kids...I understand this about him,I knew it before I ever got him and I am prepared to always be watching. Owning a dog like Witt is a responsibility, like owning a gun and keeping it in your house, it's your job to make sure it is protected and responsibly cared for. Some dogs are more protective than others (like Witt), some dogs you are never sure about until something happens, (like Dooley). Raindigger mentioned letting your dog alert you to someone being on your property, I agree. My dogs are allowed to "alert" bark until I say "OK, thank you" then their job is done and I will handle it. This means whoever is on the otherside of that door just heard my two dogs barking, they know they are right there on the other side of the door, but at the same time my dogs have manners at the door and I don't have to be dragging two dogs off the door or guests. He also mentioned having people knock on doors and windows...MAKE SURE the dog does NOT see the person. We asked a stranger at a Wal-Mart parking lot to "test" our dogs one time by pretending to break into the truck. I worried that someone would steal the dogs..not my truck. Months later by pure coincidence this person came to our house with his son selling magazine subscriptions for a school fundraiser, I promise you...my dogs recognized and remembered him and it was not good! Your pup is still very much a baby, socialize him ALOT, it's a good thing. The rest will come as he matures and needs no encouragement from you.

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knobbles
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posted 02-22-2004 08:57 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for knobbles     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Nutan, congrats on the new puppy... we just got a dobe too, and she is 11 weeks old. I agree with everyone here, you do want your dog to be part of the family (your whole family and friends too). We have another dog who we never trained to be a guard dog but he feels it's his duty to patrol the backyard and bark at noises outside. I agree that the dog wil sense it if sometihngs not quite right. Anyway, I am just repeating everything everyone else said, I actually replied to tell you a story!
My friend has a beautiful female ridgeback, and I have met the dog and played with her before. One day I needed to drop some things off art her house when she wasn't home and I had to go into the backyard to get the spare key... well this dog had met me before (numerous times) but I started to get a bit worried when she started showing her teeth and growling at me. And this dog is so friendly to everyone and all other dogs when her owners around. So yeh it most likely will come instinctively...

[This message has been edited by knobbles (edited 02-22-2004).]

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 02-23-2004 12:48 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi! I thought this site might help you, it has a wealth of information. Good luck!
http://www.canismajor.com/dog/ttrain.html

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nutan
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posted 02-23-2004 06:49 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for nutan     Edit/Delete Message
hey knobbles..congrats on your new dobe...ours are about the same age..i know how wonderfull it is to have a dobe that age...mine measures 14" at 10 weeks..what's your dobes height...Susan thx a lot for the website..was great...Check out this webpadge its good tooo....
http://66.101.7.11/happy_healthy_confident_puppy.htm

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knobbles
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posted 02-24-2004 03:50 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for knobbles     Edit/Delete Message
I just woke her up, and she looked up at me with droopy eyes and groaned when I picked her up to measure her!! So cute, especially when she's all tired like that, and not all crazy and hyped up and biting my ears and ripping my hair out!! She loves to get behind my head and pull out my hair tie then I have to chase her for it. But she is pretty well behaved considering she is just a pup! Anyway, she is 17". I had to find a tape measure with inches on it for you coz over here we work in centimetres, it's also annoying that I don't know about weight when you guys talk in pounds. My pup weighs about 7 kilos... don't know how many pounds that is.
Keep me updated on your pup, and get some photos up here! I am getting some photos developed of Leela soon and will make a page on Dogster- you should too then they can be pup pals! In the meantime check out my older baby: http://www.dogster.com/dog_page.php?j=t&i=6339
I love showing him off to people that appreciate it! I think I am driving all my friends crazy coz all I have been talking about is dogs- it's so great having two... They get along pretty well for most of the day and they sometimes play for hours... Bender does get grumpy in the mornings though, he likes to get up at 7.30, but Leela's ready to play by 5.30!
Is this your first dog? What sex and what's the name??

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Marcia McLean-Jasinski
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posted 02-25-2004 06:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Marcia McLean-Jasinski     Edit/Delete Message
No it will only help it in every single way. The more you have that pup handled the better. Have everyone you can get touch play and feed the puppy right up to 2 years old. your breeder SHOULD have told you this. I have this talk with everyone who gets one of my pups it is a must! a well socalized dog knows normal behavior an unsocalized dog is a fear biter or overly aggressive dog just waiting to happen. the more he knows tnormal behavior the better he will be able to protect you. if you havent already jion up for puppy classes for socalizing around other dogs too.

Marcia Jasinski
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