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Maisey
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posted 02-13-2004 10:56 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
My oldest daughter has a friend that she has been close with since early grade school. Our families have been sort of friends for a long while. They have a miniature Schnauzer named Katie, she is 11 years old and other than not having been taken care of very well...probably only her original vaccinations, no de-wormming, crap food (if not the cats food), etc. there is nothing wrong with her. They have seven kids, so she is great around kids and cats(which they also have and have not spayed...two litters and counting!) My daughter came home very upset recently because she was told while spending the night there that Katie was going to be euthanized "as soon as they get the money", "because they don't pay as much attention to her as they should and she is getting old" She asked me to do something...I explained to her that there wasn't much hope in finding a home for a senior dog, but I would try. The plan was, if I could find a solution we would then approach the family. Well I found a Senior Rescue program that will take her, so now I need to call the family. I am supposed to tell them that I will take the dog and find it a home. But I don't know how to start the conversation, and I don't want to put them on the defense. Any suggestions for how to approach them?

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honeybear
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posted 02-13-2004 01:16 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
wow, Maisey, that is hard one, same as when I asked about what should I do when I see that dog in the motel. Gosh, I am terrible at this kind of thing, even though they say theya re going to put her to sleep they may get defensive. You could say your daughter came to you and wants to help Katie find a new home because of (this is the hard part) I adont know how quite how to say it. if you even bring up the being put down sitation. but you said you are kind of friends. mabye saying your daughter is worried about Katie and you offered to help and found a loving home that would take her

this is a hard one.
good luck
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PinkPoodleSparkles
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posted 02-13-2004 01:33 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for PinkPoodleSparkles     Edit/Delete Message
Yeah this is hard.. but I agree with Honeybear.. bring it up lightly saying that your daughter was upset and asked u to help and you said you would try, and you found a home for her if that was ok with them..
Also if you happen to know where the vet is that they are planning on taking the dog too, you could call them or meet with the veterenarian and tell them the situation and see if they will bring it up when they bring the dog to be put down. that might work too!! hope i helped a little!!
please keep us posted!!
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honeybear
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posted 02-13-2004 01:58 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
or instead of saying your daughter is upset, just say she wants to help and then like stephanie said you would try to help if that is okay with them
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Maisey
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posted 02-13-2004 02:04 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
Well she called me back...I tried to keep a level upbeat head and mouth about it and just came right out and said that Elise told me they were going to put her down...she said yes they were. I told her that I would be willing to take Katie in and find her a home. I told her that I thought I already knew someone who would help or knew a person who wanted an older dog. She didn't even let me finish...she just said "great, thats just wonderful, just let me know when you want to come get her". I was floored...but said ok and hung up. Now what really pisses me off is that her daughter called my daughter and started asking what kind of big dog would be best for a family...one that didn't need to be groomed. My daughter was just frustrated and mad, she put her hand over the phone and asked me what to say. I just told her to keep saying "I don't know". After I have Katie safely to the rescue, I will most definately tell them quite frankly that they should NOT get another dog. These are the same people who got the cat that got pregnant before it was even a year old, I gave them tons of print outs on spaying and neutering, gave them coupons and talked to them all to no avail...the cat has since had another litter and is still not spayed!

[This message has been edited by Maisey (edited 02-13-2004).]

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honeybear
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posted 02-13-2004 02:25 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for honeybear     Edit/Delete Message
well good for you, and they agreed! this reminds me of my parents story. They were at petco one day and they said isnt that so and so dog there up for adoption, (it was a JRT)their neighbors dog. Well my dad wanted to adopt it and was doing the paperwork and went and told them so, they went ballistic, under no certain circumtances was my dog to adopt the dog, and told the agency to not let my dad have it. turns out they told their kids the dog ran away and replaced it with a lab.

hopefully they are just placating their daughter and nothing will come of it.
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nern

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posted 02-13-2004 03:19 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for nern     Edit/Delete Message
How frustrating. I am so glad you were able to help the old dog....I really hope they don't get another but these type of people often do unfortunatly. And nothing makes me angrier than people that allow their unspayed cats to reproduce over and over as if its no big deal.

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Maisey
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posted 02-13-2004 05:48 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
OK..I don't know how to groom or clip a schnauzer! Darby is the only dog I have ever done major grooming on. I was told to leave the eyebrows and mustache as those are what give the schauzer it's character...but those are also whats matted! Any suggestions? I am not spending $35 bucks to have her groomed, I just don't have it to spare, but I don't want to send her off looking like she does either.

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Jamiya
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posted 02-13-2004 09:05 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Can you use some sort of detangler stuff? I'm sorry, but I have never groomed a dog before. But it works on my daughter!


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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 02-13-2004 09:14 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi Maisey,
I'll just bet that you have "0" respect for these people now! I would have done things just like you did, and are going to do once that poor dog is safe...

NO BIG DEAL, WE'LL JUST GET ANOTHER ONE WE WON'T TAKE CARE OF!!!

And just what is that teaching their children! animals are disposable when you tire of them....

These people should be ashamed of themselve's! but then you have to have a heart first, before you can feel shame.

Sorry! this sort of thing, just really get's me going...

Good for you!!! and Thank goodness your daughter was there when euthanizing him came up. She saved him! I hope she knows that...

Sincerely, Susan

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 02-13-2004 09:23 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
Hi again Maisey, I got going on a roll and forgot to suggest what to do about grooming.

Like Jamiya said: A really good shampoo and conditioner first. I dye my hair and with it comes a very good conditioner that i use once a month on Freebie. Don't know if you have any or if you know someone that does, but I use loreal, anyway after he's all clean and dry, you could just trim him up with a pair of mustach sizzors. I do that in between cuts for my dog. Just a suggestion...

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susan_cude@hotmail.com
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posted 02-13-2004 09:28 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for susan_cude@hotmail.com     Edit/Delete Message
I'm feeling a little bad about saying they are heartless people, I shouldn't have said that. It's just that some people look at having pets as intertainment instead of as part of the family. And people like that don't deserve to have these God givin creature's in their lives. Just my opinion...Susan

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Jas

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posted 02-13-2004 10:03 PM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jas     Edit/Delete Message
Maisey, I'm so happy there are people like you out there!

Its the same old story, 'out with the old in with the new'. Really, some people are so heartless! They don't deserve to have another pet.

Its a very tough call, on one hand taking the dog off their hands gives them an easy out and a clear path to repeat the process with no consequences or cost. OTOH who wants to see a dog suffer in its last years by a family who ignores it.

I hope their new dog pees in their shoes, poops on their carpets and chews their furniture
(opps did i say that ???)

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Maisey
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posted 02-14-2004 12:27 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Maisey     Edit/Delete Message
LOL Jas...I would have never guessed you for a potty mouth!

I am doing this for a couple reasons, and I did weigh it out...first they would most definately have euthanized Katie, it wasn't just an idle thing said. Katie has been loyal and faithful to that family (including the seven children!)all her life and has gotten little in return. I asked that they send along any toys, a bed, leash etc. that she had so that she would have something familiar to ease her fear...she doesn't have any..not one toy, no leash, no bed..NOTHING but a collar(that they can't find). I think she has paid her due and deserves a home where she will be valued and spoiled. Reason two is that the oldest boy in the family, has actually been trying in vain to get his family to do right by Katie for a long while, he is ADHD, struggles alot and I believe he loves Katie, he was horrified when he was told they were going to euthanize her. Third, I am proud of my daughter for speaking up and expressing her opinion to the family about their choice, she spoke well and respectfully to them (don't ask me where she inherited that control from), when that didn't work she searched for other solutions. I want to set a good example for my kids and show them that it takes only a little sometimes to make a difference.
I pray they don't get another dog, and I may be able to help insure that they can't get one from rescue or the humane society, but those are not the only sources for dogs as we all know.
When I explained all this to my husband tonight he once again surprised me with his response...he not only gladly said "go get her" but he (in his anger) stated that if my daughters friend said one word about getting another dog while he was present he was going to flat out tell her she didn't deserve a dog. My husband is very mellow and laid back, he doesn't spout off, he is easy going, but this made him angry and in that he also showed our daughter that he supported her and that she had made a good choice.
Now if I can just do a good job cleaning her up and grooming her maybe she will find her dream home quicker.

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Jamiya
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posted 02-14-2004 10:28 AM     Click Here to See the Profile for Jamiya     Edit/Delete Message
Well done, Maisey! I hope the little girl can indeed find her perfect home. Poor thing has to be hurt and confused. At least she won't have to live in any kind of shelter situation. I always feel bad for the old dogs who suddenly find themselves in a shelter. They must be so confused!!


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